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sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
October 03 2012 11:32 GMT
#81
NO. Not one significant or relevant sponsor is putting money into it anymore. That's how business is.
sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
October 03 2012 11:34 GMT
#82
On October 03 2012 16:42 vOdToasT wrote:
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On October 03 2012 16:37 Integra wrote:


A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.


Fuck that shit. I'm gonna host tournaments as soon as I finish my education and get a job.
StarCraft is too magnificent for me to let it wither away because of the stupid bullshit that killed it. In the meantime, I'm donating my share to the swedish brood war initiative.


Just lol. I'm pretty sure your education isn't related to business or management or economics.

Good luck with that.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 03 2012 11:34 GMT
#83
Anything is possible.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 11:49:30
October 03 2012 11:34 GMT
#84
On October 03 2012 20:32 sinigang wrote:
NO. Not one significant or relevant sponsor is putting money into it anymore. That's how business is.


Who needs sponsors? I'm actually really excited about the Kickstarter idea. I think that could work and be awesome!

Edit: Though I'm not 100% sure if Kickstarter would allow that...the rules imply yes, the lack of results for "tournament" when searching projects implies no....
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
October 03 2012 12:08 GMT
#85
Well SC2 certainly isn't going to last, it has noticeably stagnated already. All that's next is a decline. In Korea I can definitely see some sort of professional competition returning, though never to the level it once was.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6814 Posts
October 03 2012 12:10 GMT
#86
never say never
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:14:32
October 03 2012 12:22 GMT
#87
only a Broodwar reloaded or a remake, something on this line can make it happen
they can make a new BW with some small fixes to make some units more viable(this how SC2 should have been in the first place) like for example:

make covert ops attached to the accademy so ghost comes much early and you can go bio vs protoss by using lockdown to stop reaver and vessel for high templar
add an upgrade for firebat to late game so they become more useful
add an upgrade to valkyrie(like a gravity missile; an ability like spider mine(so no energy) that attract all units in the targeted area, only one missiles per valkyrie
buff scout ground to 10 and make the up velocity give him more speed than any other air, also make it a detector with small
range(much smaller then obs), it's a fucking scout after all
buff guardian to 200 hp
buff queen with 125 broodling
add a spellcaster for zerg morphed from zergling with an ability that increase regeneration hp in target area, so zerg can also fight without expansion

just a few idea
KazmA
Profile Joined August 2011
United States117 Posts
October 03 2012 12:25 GMT
#88
On October 03 2012 16:57 Kal_rA wrote:
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On October 03 2012 15:53 KazmA wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:47 pebble444 wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:42 KazmA wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:29 Le French wrote:
On October 03 2012 10:59 Kal_rA wrote:
If I ever become a billionaire, I vow to sponsor the shit out of Korean BW.

Same thoughts.
I wonder if TL has enough users who can volunteer some money and effort to make it happen?
Let's do this, at least for 1 tournament.

That would be so sick. A TL community sponsored tournament for best of the remaining BW players. I feel like this should be a thing.


There is a number of events running elaready for top foeregners. Look at GC, and there is the swedish Broodwar initiative.

There is also going to be a Lan next spring with a prize pool of 18 000 dollars open to Foreigners.

Yeah but a grass roots kind of tournament put together by TL community members would be pretty sweet.

Like a.... T.. S... L... Fivee ? 0_0

Well it would be awesome to have that but unfortunately I don't think that TL would allow the TSL to do a Sc2->BW transition.
"I intend to live forever, or die trying"- Groucho Marks
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
October 03 2012 12:25 GMT
#89
On October 03 2012 21:08 J1.au wrote:
Well SC2 certainly isn't going to last, it has noticeably stagnated already. All that's next is a decline. In Korea I can definitely see some sort of professional competition returning, though never to the level it once was.


Eh? Viewer Numbers are going up and up as tournaments go on also the game is still (in some areas) massively evolving with metagame shifts and HoTS is coming out soon too.

I can see BW being big in China, but in Korea I think the "big" Broodwar scene is gone sadly. All the best Broodwar players have switched over to SC2 now and I can see SC2 going from strength to stregnth with Kespa and their help. It's sad not having a big professional league for Broodwar anymore in Korea, but it certainly won't die out.

Will it ever be as big as it once was? It's doubtful. Either way I'd rather both games found a way to succeed so everyone could enjoy watching the games they love, that's what's important. It shouldn't be some slagging match of one being better than the other all the time.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#90
On October 03 2012 21:25 Qikz wrote:
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On October 03 2012 21:08 J1.au wrote:
Well SC2 certainly isn't going to last, it has noticeably stagnated already. All that's next is a decline. In Korea I can definitely see some sort of professional competition returning, though never to the level it once was.


Eh? Viewer Numbers are going up and up as tournaments go on also the game is still (in some areas) massively evolving with metagame shifts and HoTS is coming out soon too.

I can see BW being big in China, but in Korea I think the "big" Broodwar scene is gone sadly. All the best Broodwar players have switched over to SC2 now and I can see SC2 going from strength to stregnth with Kespa and their help. It's sad not having a big professional league for Broodwar anymore in Korea, but it certainly won't die out.

Will it ever be as big as it once was? It's doubtful. Either way I'd rather both games found a way to succeed so everyone could enjoy watching the games they love, that's what's important. It shouldn't be some slagging match of one being better than the other all the time.

The game is still boring and stagnant, of course the numbers are going up because theres a new expansion out. Once the shine of it wears off in a couple months numbers will drop like they did before.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
October 03 2012 13:19 GMT
#91
It's possible. It's possible.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
October 03 2012 13:21 GMT
#92
If someone host a BIG prize pool tournament every month,
yes!
Incredible Miracle
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
October 03 2012 13:30 GMT
#93
I don't think it's possible if everyone's sitting around going someday and making wishes. The only ones who can save BW are us.
NuKE[vZ]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States249 Posts
October 03 2012 13:34 GMT
#94
No because Starcraft2 is bigger internationally which is appealing to sponsors in the Korean market. Not to mention Starcraft 2 isn't a bad game, and HoTS will be better than BW.

Play it for fun, but please come over to Sc2/HotS and help us grow it even bigger than ever.

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AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia458 Posts
October 03 2012 13:36 GMT
#95
It's possible!

However I don't like the idea of touching game's code. It's already a great game!
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The only one improvement that BW sometimes needs is a bit higher size/resolution of viewable area when casting. But it is already implemented, you can find it in SOSPA tournament.



On October 03 2012 13:16 L_Master wrote:
Okay, this is actually pretty true; though I do feel the graphics are in many ways cleaner and possibly more visually appealing than SC2. Yes, I'm certainly in the minority on this.

I agree with L_Master about the graphics. The graphics feel better, they are more beautiful and have better proportions.
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
October 03 2012 13:38 GMT
#96
On October 03 2012 22:34 NuKE[vZ] wrote:
No because Starcraft2 is bigger internationally which is appealing to sponsors in the Korean market. Not to mention Starcraft 2 isn't a bad game, and HoTS will be better than BW.

Play it for fun, but please come over to Sc2/HotS and help us grow it even bigger than ever.

you got me with "hots gonna will be better than BW" I bursted with laughter...

sprinkled mashed potatoes all over my monitor ;(((
T H C makes ppl happy
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
October 03 2012 13:38 GMT
#97
On October 03 2012 22:30 Ribbon wrote:
I don't think it's possible if everyone's sitting around going someday and making wishes. The only ones who can save BW are us.

Word ! <3 u Ribbon !
T H C makes ppl happy
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 03 2012 13:42 GMT
#98
Nah, don't think so.

SC2 killed BW, and SC3 (or even dota2) will kill SC2. The sad truth is that SC2 unfortunately killed off something that almost withstood the test of time, and there is simply no replacement, yet, at least.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 03 2012 13:46 GMT
#99
Before all, people will keep playing BW in significant amounts even 20 years from now, I expect. The game is just too much fun, just like many ancient arcade games are still in heavy use today. About professional scene, I doubt it can reach a level of greatness that it had in Korea in the past decade, because at least that would actually require another similar decade. That is, I don't think you can get there in a short time, it's like wine. However, I do believe that technically people in the future could play professional BW games at level of skill similar to the best of the Korean peak BW years, if not even improve upon it. They may not be as famous or well paid, but some of them could be able to walk the skill path of the old school.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4388 Posts
October 03 2012 13:48 GMT
#100
On October 03 2012 22:34 NuKE[vZ] wrote:
No because Starcraft2 is bigger internationally which is appealing to sponsors in the Korean market. Not to mention Starcraft 2 isn't a bad game, and HoTS will be better than BW.

Play it for fun, but please come over to Sc2/HotS and help us grow it even bigger than ever.

This post is wrong on so many levels
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