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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 07:38:29
October 03 2012 07:37 GMT
#61
I swear I saw this exact discussion with the exact arguments from the Warcraft2 players on Kali back in the old days when Starcraft 1 started to become more popular compared to Warcraft2 .

A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 07:43:20
October 03 2012 07:42 GMT
#62
On October 03 2012 16:37 Integra wrote:


A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.


Fuck that shit. I'm gonna host tournaments as soon as I finish my education and get a job.
StarCraft is too magnificent for me to let it wither away because of the stupid bullshit that killed it. In the meantime, I'm donating my share to the swedish brood war initiative.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 03 2012 07:57 GMT
#63
On October 03 2012 15:53 KazmA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 15:47 pebble444 wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:42 KazmA wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:29 Le French wrote:
On October 03 2012 10:59 Kal_rA wrote:
If I ever become a billionaire, I vow to sponsor the shit out of Korean BW.

Same thoughts.
I wonder if TL has enough users who can volunteer some money and effort to make it happen?
Let's do this, at least for 1 tournament.

That would be so sick. A TL community sponsored tournament for best of the remaining BW players. I feel like this should be a thing.


There is a number of events running elaready for top foeregners. Look at GC, and there is the swedish Broodwar initiative.

There is also going to be a Lan next spring with a prize pool of 18 000 dollars open to Foreigners.

Yeah but a grass roots kind of tournament put together by TL community members would be pretty sweet.

Like a.... T.. S... L... Fivee ? 0_0
Jaedong.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 08:12:09
October 03 2012 08:10 GMT
#64
On October 03 2012 16:37 Integra wrote:
I swear I saw this exact discussion with the exact arguments from the Warcraft2 players on Kali back in the old days when Starcraft 1 started to become more popular compared to Warcraft2 .

A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.

GTFO now

If you dont want BW to live and be successful anymore, or you just dont care then just get the fuck out it will be less painful that way for us

We will be happier without once like you
T H C makes ppl happy
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
October 03 2012 08:11 GMT
#65
On October 03 2012 16:42 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 16:37 Integra wrote:


A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.


Fuck that shit. I'm gonna host tournaments as soon as I finish my education and get a job.
StarCraft is too magnificent for me to let it wither away because of the stupid bullshit that killed it. In the meantime, I'm donating my share to the swedish brood war initiative.

THATS THE FUCKING SPIRIT !!!!!! :D

FUCK YEAH :D

\m/ dude !!! <3 u !
T H C makes ppl happy
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
October 03 2012 08:17 GMT
#66
On October 03 2012 16:42 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 16:37 Integra wrote:


A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.


Fuck that shit. I'm gonna host tournaments as soon as I finish my education and get a job.
StarCraft is too magnificent for me to let it wither away because of the stupid bullshit that killed it. In the meantime, I'm donating my share to the swedish brood war initiative.


You currently don't have the time to do it as a student, and you think you'll have the time to do it as an employee??
glhf
if you mean your words you should act them right now because, if you have not noticed yet, bw is not in its prime years anymore, who knows what will be left in a few years.
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
October 03 2012 08:20 GMT
#67
In the short term, there is nothing stopping BW tournies from being held. Indeed, several are already running.

The problem, as some have pointed out, is that the BW player base increasingly consists of veterans, with few newcomers. Unless something is done to increase BW's appeal to newcomers, it's bound to mostly fade away within a decade.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 08:31:12
October 03 2012 08:26 GMT
#68
On October 03 2012 17:17 freakhill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 16:42 vOdToasT wrote:
On October 03 2012 16:37 Integra wrote:


A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.


Fuck that shit. I'm gonna host tournaments as soon as I finish my education and get a job.
StarCraft is too magnificent for me to let it wither away because of the stupid bullshit that killed it. In the meantime, I'm donating my share to the swedish brood war initiative.


You currently don't have the time to do it as a student, and you think you'll have the time to do it as an employee??
glhf
if you mean your words you should act them right now because, if you have not noticed yet, bw is not in its prime years anymore, who knows what will be left in a few years.


I have time and energy, I don't have money. The reason I'm a student is to get a job... Without a job, I don't really have money, lol.

Luckily, I'm learning programming, including C++, the language StarCraft was written in. I'll be able to make a new version of the game with the ability to have high resolution sprites. It will also have built in anti hack, ladder, automatch, and will connect to one global server (that I will pay for, of course).

I will give a proposal for this idea to Blizzard and offer them free money. I know that they will reject it, because they want SC1 to die, so I'll release it illegally for all to download. I will of course advertise for it. I will advertise it like this:
"The greatest RTS of all time has returned"

I'm not kidding around, I'm going to do this in a few years when I'm a proffessional programmer. I wish I could do it now, but I have to finish learning C++ first...
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
October 03 2012 08:32 GMT
#69
On October 03 2012 17:26 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 17:17 freakhill wrote:
On October 03 2012 16:42 vOdToasT wrote:
On October 03 2012 16:37 Integra wrote:


A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.


Fuck that shit. I'm gonna host tournaments as soon as I finish my education and get a job.
StarCraft is too magnificent for me to let it wither away because of the stupid bullshit that killed it. In the meantime, I'm donating my share to the swedish brood war initiative.


You currently don't have the time to do it as a student, and you think you'll have the time to do it as an employee??
glhf
if you mean your words you should act them right now because, if you have not noticed yet, bw is not in its prime years anymore, who knows what will be left in a few years.


I have time and energy, I don't have money. The reason I'm a student is to get a job... Without a job, I don't really have money, lol.

Luckily, I'm learning programming, including C++, the language StarCraft was written in. I'll be able to make a new version of the game with the ability to have high resolution sprites. It will also have built in anti hack, ladder, automatch, and will connect to one global server (that I will pay for, of course).

I will give a proposal for this idea to Blizzard and offer them free money. I know that they will reject it, because they want SC1 to die, so I'll release it illegally for all to download. I will of course advertise for it. I will advertise it like this:
"The greatest RTS of all time has returned"

I'm not kidding around, I'm going to do this in a few years when I'm a proffessional programmer. I wish I could do it now, but I have to learn C++ first...


From a professional programmer standpoint. I don't want to curbstomp your enthusiasm, so I'll just wish you goodluck!
Here is an article about SC1 development.
http://www.codeofhonor.com/blog/tough-times-on-the-road-to-starcraft
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 08:34:31
October 03 2012 08:33 GMT
#70
On October 03 2012 17:32 freakhill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 17:26 vOdToasT wrote:
On October 03 2012 17:17 freakhill wrote:
On October 03 2012 16:42 vOdToasT wrote:
On October 03 2012 16:37 Integra wrote:


A Word of advice from someone who has been around since 1993: All things comes to an end, even Starcraft. I suggest you get over it and make the choice of moving on or to call it quits altogether. It's less stressful and less painful that way.


Fuck that shit. I'm gonna host tournaments as soon as I finish my education and get a job.
StarCraft is too magnificent for me to let it wither away because of the stupid bullshit that killed it. In the meantime, I'm donating my share to the swedish brood war initiative.


You currently don't have the time to do it as a student, and you think you'll have the time to do it as an employee??
glhf
if you mean your words you should act them right now because, if you have not noticed yet, bw is not in its prime years anymore, who knows what will be left in a few years.


I have time and energy, I don't have money. The reason I'm a student is to get a job... Without a job, I don't really have money, lol.

Luckily, I'm learning programming, including C++, the language StarCraft was written in. I'll be able to make a new version of the game with the ability to have high resolution sprites. It will also have built in anti hack, ladder, automatch, and will connect to one global server (that I will pay for, of course).

I will give a proposal for this idea to Blizzard and offer them free money. I know that they will reject it, because they want SC1 to die, so I'll release it illegally for all to download. I will of course advertise for it. I will advertise it like this:
"The greatest RTS of all time has returned"

I'm not kidding around, I'm going to do this in a few years when I'm a proffessional programmer. I wish I could do it now, but I have to learn C++ first...


From a professional programmer standpoint. I don't want to curbstomp your enthusiasm, so I'll just wish you goodluck!
Here is an article about SC1 development.
http://www.codeofhonor.com/blog/tough-times-on-the-road-to-starcraft


The only thing I'm afraid of is Blizzard suing me and shutting the project down. Other than that, it's all possible. All I have to do is get out there and do it.

If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 08:44:56
October 03 2012 08:40 GMT
#71
Your dedication is admirable, vOdToasT. I wish you luck.
You may be better off using a higher-level language than C++, eg. read chapters 10 to 14 of Hackers and Painters.
asiantraceur
Profile Joined April 2012
United States94 Posts
October 03 2012 08:40 GMT
#72
Get a petition from people saying they'll buy the game from Blizzard...also try to update graphics? I know a lot of people are attracted to SC2 cuz of "good graphics"
SC:BW
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4421 Posts
October 03 2012 08:50 GMT
#73
If there was a rehashed version with improved graphics and a vastly better screen resolution then yes but even then it would be nowhere near as big as it used to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 03 2012 08:51 GMT
#74
vOdToasT, that would truely be the best thing ever happend

Except for the graphic part, automatch, antihack etc is awesome but fuck it leave the graphics alone, they are as they are and the bitter old (18) dude that is me, doesn't want want the the graphics different than from when I first played the game at an age of 3-4 years
In the woods, there lurks..
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 09:01:51
October 03 2012 08:53 GMT
#75
On October 03 2012 17:40 Potling wrote:
Your dedication is admirable, vOdToasT. I wish you luck.
You may be better off using a higher-level language than C++, eg. read chapters 10 to 14 of Hackers and Painters.


The multiplayer platform will be using code from battle.net, which is C++. Also, the game itself, which I will make slight modifications to (just to allow high resolution sprites, if desired) is C++. So for this, I think I'll just use C++, since I'm just making some modifications to the game. I might as well use the same language. I'm comfortable with it anyway.

I'm considering all options, of course. And I won't start coding on this project until a year or two, so maybe I will.

but fuck it leave the graphics alone, they are as they are and the bitter old (18) dude that is me, doesn't want want the the graphics different than from when I first played the game at an age of 3-4 years


This is my attitude as well, but my fiance convinced me that people who aren't used to StarCraft thinks it looks like shit (She plays fighting games, so she thinks so). Giving people the option of making it look better isn't going to hurt. They can still play with people who have the option off. It's only changing sprites, everything will be just as big (except for the pixels, those huge pixels on the units really hurt some people's eyes) and they won't see more than anyone else.

I wasn't going to talk about this idea. I was going to make an epic announcement when it was about halfway done, but everyone keeps talking about how BW has no future and shit, so I just had to chime in.

As for tournaments, my plan is to start sponsoring tournaments while the "game" is new, has advertisements around the internet, and has hype. This way, I hope to attract viewers. It may stay like this forever, a bunch of amateur gosus playing for a few thousand dollars a month. I hope that it will eventually grow beyond that, that the amount of viewers will become enough to sustain more, and that I won't be paying for it all on my own (because I'm not gonna be a billionaire or anything, I'll just have good amounts of money). But we will see.

Look at my idea as another "swedish brood war initiative". I am simply trying to accomplish the same thing, but my approach is different. Those guys managed to get a good amount of money just after a few months, and are working on a project now (probably a big tournament or something). I am just as dedicated and serious as they are. Use them as evidence, if you will, that people can actually get off their asses and get stuff done.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4421 Posts
October 03 2012 08:53 GMT
#76
On October 03 2012 17:51 Iplaythings wrote:
vOdToasT, that would truely be the best thing ever happend

Except for the graphic part, automatch, antihack etc is awesome but fuck it leave the graphics alone, they are as they are and the bitter old (18) dude that is me, doesn't want want the the graphics different than from when I first played the game at an age of 3-4 years

The graphics don't bother me but the resolution does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
October 03 2012 09:54 GMT
#77
The biggest problem with any kind of resurgence is legal issues. If you're going as far as to create your own version, you might as well gather a team to make a ground-up game that can be released without problem. Same game, different names/visuals, no copied code. A bit harder, but that'd guarantee you a bit of safety. Just make sure you don't use any promotional language that insinuates you're inspired-by or directly ripping-off Blizzard's game if they decide to go legal on your ass. Hard to do, I know. Best of luck!
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Savi[wOk]
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States81 Posts
October 03 2012 10:06 GMT
#78
By saying people won't play broodwar.
People will move on to a new game.
By saying broodwar is dying.

You are saying you won't play broodwar anymore
You are saying you will move on to a new game.
You will allow broodwar to not exist.

Lets play starcraft
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
October 03 2012 11:13 GMT
#79
When I said BW being static I mean a majority of games are on FS. Lower tier gamers, which there is a lot of coverage now, are very similar to each other IMO. As for my DOTA comment I know Bnet 2.0 isn't hackable thats why I said some off site the players can upload to. But I don't think thread is going to get anywhere. It will just make ourselves feel sad. BW fighting.
Master Chief
Mathewep2010
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States63 Posts
October 03 2012 11:21 GMT
#80
I joined TL during the SC2 beta and after quite a while of playing I just switched back and am happy I did, I think the more that get drawn into SC2 the bigger chance that some will find BW eventually. Would be really cool for something like vodtoast's plans to work but in the end we still have a great game that is sure to draw in some people. I play CS 1.6 and I know that some people I've talked to in servers said they never tried it until they bought it with that CS GO all in one package on Steam. Glass half full! :D
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