EPTCould BW make a come back?
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KazmA
United States117 Posts
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SnowFantasy
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
On October 03 2012 10:42 KazmA wrote: Even with the rapid decline of BW as a professional sport, is it still possible for it rise up to were it once was before as an Esport? Many people have said that Sc2 pales in comparison to what BW was as a game and many pros are vocal about their favoritism towards BW over Sc2. Even with HOTS coming out and the development of SC2 is there enough support to eventually in some way rally around BW and start it up as a major Esport again? Obviously there are still professional leagues out there but nothing compared to what was in Korea. Personally I think that one day, if even for short period of time, BW could get back to the level it was at in the past. Maybe not in Korea but I do think that with a game as great as BW its just to much to ignore as a sport. Without sponsorship, it's quite difficult to get back up to the level it was before, by which I mean prestigious tournaments, full house teams sponsored by rich corporations, and TV broadcasts. You have to think about where sponsors are coming from. Basically, they do it because they feel that it's a worthy form of advertising. For tech companies like Intel, their incentive is to back the newest game possible, as that allows them to sell more product. Sponsoring an old game (technologically) like BW might help create more positive feelings towards the company, but might not translate directly into additional sales like SC2 would (being that you might need newer computer equipment to run it, while BW can run on a microwaved brick). The cost-benefit analysis is key, and unless you can think of a way to convince corporations that sponsoring BW makes sense, over something that's flashier and more popular at the moment among customers that might *buy* their new gadgets... it's unlikely. That said, I've been getting back into the game over the past few days, and while I'm absolutely terrible at the moment (struggling to even hold D-rank, actually), it's still a lot of fun. I think we'll see BW continue on for quite some time, in forms like SOSPA or the amateur competitions we're seeing now. | ||
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LeSioN
United States325 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
Also on a side of watching because I'm mainly a viewer not a player StarCraft 2 looks and sounds very nice. I love the casters for SC2, the production value of some events like the GSL GSTL is crazy good. There is big money rewards for winning tournaments for players as well. Would I rather practice for days / months to win 500$ from GC or would I rather win 50,000$ from one of the four seasons of IPL? Would I rather practice on a ladder that I auto-match makes me within 30 seconds or shorter or wait in a game lobby up to 20 minutes to get into a BW game. I also like the ability to cheer US players back at home as well. I like the Korean Scene but when I see SeleCt or Machine play I always cheer for them. Like they represent the USA in some way. I guess you could argue that Bakuryu has the same feel on Germans, I don't know but I don't get this feeling from BW. As for your point to relive Brood War. If you want to have it "rise up to were it once was before as an eSport" do something about it. Help out with the community and help organize tournaments help raise cash for tournaments if its something you want to see. Generally this is the point where people will look the other way and either continue to practice because they hope there will be another tournament or you get someone like Eywa- who goes around all of Europe getting sponsors for his huge Winter 2013 tournament. This is an extreme case, he is one person. I believe, if you had as devoted fans as he was Brood War might become once it was but I think there is a minimal possibility that this would happen. EDIT: Also time zones are yucky to meet up with players for matches. | ||
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
So if korean audience wants BW back, it could come back... BW popularity was fading, teams become less over the past years, from 12 to 7 + 1 unsponsored (Team 8) | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On October 03 2012 10:59 Kal_rA wrote: If I ever become a billionaire, I vow to sponsor the shit out of Korean BW. We should all take this oath, imo. If none of us do become billionaires, I doubt that it will reach its former glory. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
I'm already engaged, and I know I can give everything I make to BW, while my girlfriend pays for food and rent and stuff. It will start out as regular tournaments with good prizes. Then, as viewer numbers increase, I will attain sponsorships and people will be able to make a living out of it. IT WILL BE GLORIOUS. | ||
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Elite00fm
United States548 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:21 Elite00fm wrote: It would be great if they made a BW2, like how they made dota2. That's honestly what I hoped SC2 was going to be, before it was released. But instead they decided to make a completely different game with only the same outside appearance. | ||
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:21 Elite00fm wrote: It would be great if they made a BW2, like how they made dota2. They did, Thank MavericK he ported BW to StarCraft 2. You have StarCraft 2 mechanics with Brood War. Has its own ladder. Someone could possibly make a website that people upload their replays to, split out something similar to an ELO to get online ranking boards. So if people want to transition to BW2 there it is. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:05 The_Templar wrote: We should all take this oath, imo. If none of us do become billionaires, I doubt that it will reach its former glory. Ha, i swear i will do so if i ever become a billionaire ^^ Otherwise i feel BW unfortunately will never come to great glory in public again. The thing we all just can do is talk and play the game. Organize stuff and tournaments. Create content. There is a niche for BW here still, though the big proscene isnt gonna come back. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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KazmA
United States117 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:33 Pucca wrote: They did, Thank MavericK he ported BW to StarCraft 2. You have StarCraft 2 mechanics with Brood War. Has its own ladder. Someone could possibly make a website that people upload their replays to, split out something similar to an ELO to get online ranking boards. So if people want to transition to BW2 there it is. Really? That actually sounds pretty interesting. Any info on how I could play that? | ||
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illidan333
Iran102 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:39 KazmA wrote: Really? That actually sounds pretty interesting. Any info on how I could play that? Yea I support 1000% | ||
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
I mean someone would have to make the website to analize replays to figure out the winner and such or brood war forum could become SC2BW for tournaments and such. Its just an idea if someone wants to pick it up It would make sense. http://www.youtube.com/fearboxer <------------ Is a channel I made a while ago specifically for this purpose never took off. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:48 Pucca wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316 I mean someone would have to make the website to analize replays to figure out the winner and such or brood war forum could become SC2BW for tournaments and such. Its just an idea if someone wants to pick it up It would make sense. http://www.youtube.com/fearboxer <------------ Is a channel I made a while ago specifically for this purpose never took off. Honestly I am actually more interested in how Starbow would turn out rather than SC2BW. If I want to play BW, I can play BW with minimum inconveninence. But then I never payed much attention to that mod so maybe it has more to offer than (arguably) graphics improvement. | ||
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
On October 03 2012 12:03 Hesmyrr wrote: Honestly I am actually more interested in how Starbow would turn out rather than SC2BW. If I want to play BW, I can play BW with minimum inconveninence. But then I never payed much attention to that mod so maybe it has more to offer than (arguably) graphics improvement. It changes the mechanics of brood war significantly Bio is viable now in TvP if you go vessel and tank. Starbow is good, however that needs to be balanced I believe, have not played it for that long but I'd have to assume. As well as players just wanted a direct port not a mixture of the games. | ||
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