EPTCould BW make a come back? - Page 11
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ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1707 Posts
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BadAssJ
United States136 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
Poll: Would you donate 20$ / month for 6 month for better tournaments? Yes (22) No (7) 29 total votes Your vote: Would you donate 20$ / month for 6 month for better tournaments? | ||
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FinalForm
United States450 Posts
Yes I know that there are differences between dota2 and the warcraft 3 custom, however the spirit is there to leave as much intact as possible. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On October 05 2012 12:56 BadAssJ wrote: I do support BW in its entirety but put these threads to rest. Sometimes letting go is the best way to go because then it can have a legacy. BW is forever the immortal game but these BW revival threads just make it harder and harder to get past the inevitable. BW will always have a place in my heart and it will remain resting in my heart rather than a constant thought that hinders my heart. If you actually loved BW, you'd be playing it. | ||
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Ender2701
United States581 Posts
I'll continue playing BW during the summer when there's no CSL, but it certainly feels like a lot of the magic was lost with the loss of the BW players and storylines. I can't really see it coming back unless someone in the BW community becomes very rich and tries to re-sponsor Korean BW with a very good marketing campaign that makes people remember the joy of watching it in their childhood. | ||
white_horse
1019 Posts
On October 05 2012 13:43 vOdToasT wrote: If you actually loved BW, you'd be playing it. Not necessarily no. The power of BW lies in the fact that it can attract non-BW players to spectate because of its friendly-to-watch graphics and easy-to-comprehend onscreen battles. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On October 05 2012 13:55 white_horse wrote: Not necessarily no. The power of BW lies in the fact that it can attract non-BW players to spectate because of its friendly-to-watch graphics and easy-to-comprehend onscreen battles. Being attracted to something because it has "friendly-to-watch graphics" and "easy-to-comprehend battles" does NOT mean you love it. It just means you like it. I disagree that "threads like these need to rest". StarCraft is one of the most beautiful things I have experienced. It is on par with music. Edit: No, it's better than music. It is second only to the universe itself, and its ways of being described. Real time strategy games can be magnificent, but only StarCraft is this amazing. In order to keep the awe inspiring magnificence that is StarCraft alive, we have to plan for the future, and that's what this thread is doing. The only other option is to make a new RTS game that is as good, or better, than StarCraft, but a discussion about that doesn't belong on a StarCraft forum. what if they did a dota2 esque bw. attempt to preserve the game entirely with the exception of updated graphics and matchmaking/community. I intend to do that. If Blizzard won't accept the free money, then I'll fucking do it anyway. ICCup and Fish got away with it, so I can too. StarCraft is quite easy to alter even if you don't have the source coude, even graphically altering the sprites. It's not unrealistic. or impossible. DotA was going to be the best game in its genre, but still the least played. It was going to fade in to obscurity, like Brood War. And then, DotA 2 came. | ||
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white_horse
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On October 05 2012 14:30 white_horse wrote: so whats your point? The only way to love BW is to play it? lol? I stopped playing BW a long time ago and I love it. Fair enough. Maybe you don't have the time to play it enough to make it gratifying. There are reasons to not play BW. But he said he supports BW in its entirety, yet still wants threads like these to end. My point (which I didn't make very clear, I didn't think before posting) is that if he actually supported BW, he wouldn't be against people discussing its future. He's not even willing to work for the future of BW, he just wants us to give up. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On October 05 2012 00:40 andrea20 wrote: $2.5 million cannot sustain Proleague for more than a season. Not only do you have to feed and shelter at least a hundred pros, but you have to pay for the venue, the TV time, and all the production crew. Citing random indie games hardly backs your argument. The masses are what feed any hobby. Absolutely none of that shit is Starcraft, though. It's the pomp and circumstance. On October 05 2012 02:26 Falling wrote: But I doubt Blizzard would ever release their game into the hands of modders. Nope. No way they'll actually help out their competition like that. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2315 Posts
On October 05 2012 13:03 Sawamura wrote: Telling people to move on means accepting inferior products that are being produced right now . It's like telling Counter strike player to move on to COD because its popular .Also It's like telling quake players to stop playing quake because it's a dead game . Seriously I won't move on just because something is popular right now and the next new shiny game pops up and everyone just hops on to the next hype . The worst thing the people who says that are in most cases those who believe that only possible option to "move on" is SC2 | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
On October 05 2012 14:53 hitthat wrote: The worst thing the people who says that are in most cases those who believe that only possible option to "move on" is SC2 Well, show me another RTS game with proscene. With causal player base. With thousands of fans. There is/was BW and then Sc2. the whole frickin genre is freezed in one place. Noone tries to make a game to fight it out with Sc2. The RTS scene is much much smaller in playerbase numbers than ARTS base. I heard EA trying to make some F2P MMO RTS game but i really have doubt towards that, and then what else? There are always comments like "We should make a mod BW" "We should make BW2", i dont know how many of you are developers like myself, but lets just say, good luck making an RTS game out of thin air as good and deep as BW ( Look at Sc2, it didn't worked out that well ), as for modding, you have lot more chance there, since you have the fundamentals, but till i see a alpha gameplay video or just screenshots, its nothing but a dream | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On October 05 2012 13:11 Emon_ wrote: Poll: Would you donate 20$ / month for 6 month for better tournaments? Yes (22) No (7) 29 total votes Your vote: Would you donate 20$ / month for 6 month for better tournaments? 20 * 10 = 200 That's a ZOTAC cup, man! 200$ a month! Someone organize this shit! | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On October 05 2012 17:07 vOdToasT wrote: 20 * 10 = 200 That's a ZOTAC cup, man! 200$ a month! Someone organize this shit! 10$ every two weeks would be even better imo  lets say a 100$ Cup every week, winner takes all would be awesome ! | ||
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hitthat
Poland2315 Posts
On October 05 2012 15:24 Darksoldierr wrote: Well, show me another RTS game with proscene. With causal player base. With thousands of fans. There is/was BW and then Sc2. the whole frickin genre is freezed in one place. Noone tries to make a game to fight it out with Sc2. The RTS scene is much much smaller in playerbase numbers than ARTS base. I heard EA trying to make some F2P MMO RTS game but i really have doubt towards that, and then what else? There are always comments like "We should make a mod BW" "We should make BW2", i dont know how many of you are developers like myself, but lets just say, good luck making an RTS game out of thin air as good and deep as BW ( Look at Sc2, it didn't worked out that well ), as for modding, you have lot more chance there, since you have the fundamentals, but till i see a alpha gameplay video or just screenshots, its nothing but a dream But on gamereplays.org are still vods of CoH and some other strategy games. It's not like SC2 or CnCs are the only RTS to watch. CoH is for me better to watch than SC2 (actually the best games are close the level of "quite good" games of BroodWar), but it's trully bad tournament game (no mirrors, randomness, balance issues etc.). http://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes/videos.php?game=25&show=details&id=3559 For long World in Conflict was also good alternative, even if it was "not as good" as BW or CoH. It's not that there are no options, its just option we have are less popular. There is still some hope that CoH 2 will be as good to watch as first instalation (and probably- just as bad tournament game) | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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jdsowa
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6814 Posts
On October 06 2012 00:31 jdsowa wrote: I'm 32 years old. I basically stopped playing games around the time BW came out, so I never played it back then. It's just an especially bad looking game. It looks dated even compared to games from that time period. It's impossible to follow the grainy graphics. I can't see how a new generation of kids are going to pick-up on this after SC2. Sorry. u dont play the game u cant understand that is bw. | ||
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