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On September 03 2012 20:16 Grumbels wrote:
Or nerfing the Thor because supposedly it obscures vision so was problematic when massed, but not taking that to its logical conclusion and removing the colossus from the game in Heart of the Swarm - a unit that stands literally on top of other units and is widely hated by the community.
How about stop talking as if you knew what "the community" likes. Colossus is a great unit. It forces the opponent into doing things, i can actually win a game.
If you wanna talk about a shitty unit, take the void ray. All it does is force a lol of the opponent.
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On September 04 2012 05:33 OminouS wrote:
Why would China be first with the Beta when they were last with WoL?
Thats not footage from the beta we all will be playing thats either a preview for journalists or another beta that is under nda.
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The name of the red player belongs to a bronze league player from the NA server. Don't know if that makes it legit or not. No players on the Chinese server are known to use that ID but obviously in hots it would be new profiles anyway.
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On September 04 2012 04:40 stevarius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 04:38 hiro protagonist wrote:NOOOOOO... Oracle no longer has clocking field  (if this video is ligit that is...) Oracle cloaking field would be broken as fuck.
How so? Wouldn't it be like the aribtor in BW? I was actually looking foward to the cloak :{
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On September 04 2012 05:42 Defeat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 04:40 stevarius wrote:On September 04 2012 04:38 hiro protagonist wrote:NOOOOOO... Oracle no longer has clocking field (if this video is ligit that is...) Oracle cloaking field would be broken as fuck. How so? Wouldn't it be like the aribtor in BW? I was actually looking foward to the cloak :{
Arbiter needs gate -> core -> stargate -> fleet beacon -> arbiter tribunal
Oracle needs gate -> core -> stargate
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On September 04 2012 05:38 testthewest wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:16 Grumbels wrote:
Or nerfing the Thor because supposedly it obscures vision so was problematic when massed, but not taking that to its logical conclusion and removing the colossus from the game in Heart of the Swarm - a unit that stands literally on top of other units and is widely hated by the community.
How about stop talking as if you knew what "the community" likes. Colossus is a great unit. It forces the opponent into doing things, i can actually win a game.If you wanna talk about a shitty unit, take the void ray. All it does is force a lol of the opponent.
What are you talking about.
The collosus should definitely have been completely redesigned. Its a stupid boring unit.
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On September 04 2012 05:05 Alexj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 04:49 XenoX101 wrote:Tempest
- Damage reduced to 30 from 60
- Attack speed increased to 3.3 from 6 (10% buff in damage)
Errm... 60/6 = 10 DPS 30/3.3 = 9.09 DPS What is this buff you're talking about?
was 60 only agaist massive, so it's a buff over non-massive
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Colossus is a great unit
gg
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On September 04 2012 05:05 Alexj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 04:49 XenoX101 wrote:Tempest
- Damage reduced to 30 from 60
- Attack speed increased to 3.3 from 6 (10% buff in damage)
Errm... 60/6 = 10 DPS 30/3.3 = 9.09 DPS What is this buff you're talking about?
It was 60 (10dps) against massive, 45 (7.5dps) against anything else. So it's buffed against non-massive.
On September 04 2012 05:15 a176 wrote:for the love of god i will not buy hots if this dumbfuck unit stays in
You're upset that 4 capital ships don't die to 5 phoenixes and a stalker? Try putting 4 BCs or 4 Carriers in the enemy base and see if 5 phoenixes and a stalker can do anything about it.
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On September 04 2012 05:44 Dauntless wrote:HotS creep on Terran structures is quite cool.. + Show Spoiler +
I thought they changed the queen model; I guess they reverted it?
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On September 04 2012 05:46 Tenda wrote:I thought they changed the queen model; I guess they reverted it?
Hmm, good point. I liked the new look of the queen, maybe single player only?
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On September 04 2012 05:48 imPermanenCe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 05:46 Tenda wrote:On September 04 2012 05:44 Dauntless wrote:HotS creep on Terran structures is quite cool.. + Show Spoiler + I thought they changed the queen model; I guess they reverted it? Hmm, good point. I liked the new look of the queen, maybe single player only?
Or collector's edition model?
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On September 04 2012 05:49 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 05:48 imPermanenCe wrote:On September 04 2012 05:46 Tenda wrote:On September 04 2012 05:44 Dauntless wrote:HotS creep on Terran structures is quite cool.. + Show Spoiler + I thought they changed the queen model; I guess they reverted it? Hmm, good point. I liked the new look of the queen, maybe single player only? Or collector's edition model?
if it was collectors edition, wouldn't there be a special model of a unit for every race? or not? I've only heard of the queen getting updated
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On September 04 2012 05:44 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 05:42 Defeat wrote:On September 04 2012 04:40 stevarius wrote:On September 04 2012 04:38 hiro protagonist wrote:NOOOOOO... Oracle no longer has clocking field (if this video is ligit that is...) Oracle cloaking field would be broken as fuck. How so? Wouldn't it be like the aribtor in BW? I was actually looking foward to the cloak :{ Arbiter needs gate -> core -> stargate -> fleet beacon -> arbiter tribunal Oracle needs gate -> core -> stargate
Arbiter needs
gate -> core -> Stargate } Arbiter tribunal
-> Citadel of Adun -> Templar Archives }
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On September 04 2012 05:44 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 05:42 Defeat wrote:On September 04 2012 04:40 stevarius wrote:On September 04 2012 04:38 hiro protagonist wrote:NOOOOOO... Oracle no longer has clocking field (if this video is ligit that is...) Oracle cloaking field would be broken as fuck. How so? Wouldn't it be like the aribtor in BW? I was actually looking foward to the cloak :{ Arbiter needs gate -> core -> stargate -> fleet beacon -> arbiter tribunal Oracle needs gate -> core -> stargate
It was actually even more complex than that. The arbiter tribunal didn't require the fleet beacon, but it required the templar archives. You basically had to go down 2 tech paths to get them, which ensured that you couldn't rush them out for an OP timing attack before detection.
An extremely easy fix I think would be to make the cloaking ability a cheap upgrade at the fleet beacon, which would definitely create enough of a delay.
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On September 04 2012 05:50 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 05:44 Lorch wrote:On September 04 2012 05:42 Defeat wrote:On September 04 2012 04:40 stevarius wrote:On September 04 2012 04:38 hiro protagonist wrote:NOOOOOO... Oracle no longer has clocking field (if this video is ligit that is...) Oracle cloaking field would be broken as fuck. How so? Wouldn't it be like the aribtor in BW? I was actually looking foward to the cloak :{ Arbiter needs gate -> core -> stargate -> fleet beacon -> arbiter tribunal Oracle needs gate -> core -> stargate Arbiter needs gate -> core -> Stargate } Arbiter tribunal
-> Citadel of Adun -> Templar Archives }
Oh shit sry thanks for correcting that I guess I should have used mor arbitersssss.
Point remains arbiter needs lot of tech, oracle can be out before 6 min.
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On September 04 2012 05:05 Alexj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 04:49 XenoX101 wrote:Tempest
- Damage reduced to 30 from 60
- Attack speed increased to 3.3 from 6 (10% buff in damage)
Errm... 60/6 = 10 DPS 30/3.3 = 9.09 DPS What is this buff you're talking about?
Edit I'm stupid.
however, its not really a buff besides the tempests shots now are less valuable in terms of opportunity to make a shot...what I mean is a faster attack with similar dps means you will get more shots in and debatably do more damage
On September 04 2012 05:50 Tao367 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 05:49 ACrow wrote:On September 04 2012 05:48 imPermanenCe wrote:On September 04 2012 05:46 Tenda wrote:On September 04 2012 05:44 Dauntless wrote:HotS creep on Terran structures is quite cool.. + Show Spoiler + I thought they changed the queen model; I guess they reverted it? Hmm, good point. I liked the new look of the queen, maybe single player only? Or collector's edition model? if it was collectors edition, wouldn't there be a special model of a unit for every race? or not? I've only heard of the queen getting updated
to be fair, the CE for terran only altered the thor.
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On September 04 2012 05:52 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 05:50 Plexa wrote:On September 04 2012 05:44 Lorch wrote:On September 04 2012 05:42 Defeat wrote:On September 04 2012 04:40 stevarius wrote:On September 04 2012 04:38 hiro protagonist wrote:NOOOOOO... Oracle no longer has clocking field (if this video is ligit that is...) Oracle cloaking field would be broken as fuck. How so? Wouldn't it be like the aribtor in BW? I was actually looking foward to the cloak :{ Arbiter needs gate -> core -> stargate -> fleet beacon -> arbiter tribunal Oracle needs gate -> core -> stargate Arbiter needs gate -> core -> Stargate } Arbiter tribunal
-> Citadel of Adun -> Templar Archives }
Oh shit sry thanks for correcting that I guess I should have used mor arbitersssss. Point remains arbiter needs lot of tech, oracle can be out before 6 min.
Ah, well I'd still like it to stay in so hopefully they will put it as a further branch down the tech tree or keep it in some way.
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I approve of most of the changes. Oracles having comsat sweep is a little goofy though, but I can see how it would have the same relationship as mule/ comsat, since the scan energy you would have rather used on a mineral block.
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