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rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 12 2012 13:30 GMT
#21
he was gonna lose the series regardless.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 12 2012 13:31 GMT
#22
Nestea would have lost the series anyway seeing the way he was playing, maybe he was tilted but I think someone who won 3 GSL's has the mental fortitude to handle one loss. Mvp did an even worse bunker rush on the old summer version of Bel'Shir beach to him like a year ago where he walled the choke between the natural and the main.

That being said I'm glad they recognized the problem and it will be fixed, because that was pretty BS.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 12 2012 13:31 GMT
#23
Such a fail

Still, Byun 3- 0'ed, it wasn't a very close serie...
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Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
July 12 2012 13:31 GMT
#24
I was dissapointed enough that Nestea lost, but one of his losses were because the mapmaker messed up...
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 12 2012 13:31 GMT
#25
On July 12 2012 22:27 leveller wrote:
How come no one noticed until now, if it's been changed for weeks?


I think it is because most tournament maps have them so players probably just assumes they are there. Byun noticed during his match with CoCa. But as a Terran, he wasn't going to report it.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 13:32 GMT
#26
On July 12 2012 22:20 Malpractice.248 wrote:
FAIIILLL
But honestly. Nestea was outplayed all 3 games.
Im not sure this would have changed the outcome.
hes experienced enough to not lose his concentration from a loss; And shoulda/hopefully saw the depots missing >.>
Unfortunate, but it happens :/

(Much like at IPLs hot wheels tourney, where they loaded t he wrong map and they werent cross spawns.)

its hard to say, maybe if the depot was there NesTea holds the bunker rush and wins the game, maybe winning the first game put NesTea on fire and hits Byuns confidence

but if this was jsut a mistake, why did John say Metropolis never had depots?
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 12 2012 13:33 GMT
#27
Well, sucks that it is a mistake, but nobody in their right mind should blame Byun for this. Neither should Nestea complain about it, he or any other Zerg pro should have noticed in preparation and file a complaint before a match. It's not like it's hidden or something, it's available for play in custom games, so they really should have noticed beforehand.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 12 2012 13:33 GMT
#28
On July 12 2012 22:31 Dodgin wrote:
Nestea would have lost the series anyway seeing the way he was playing, maybe he was tilted but I think someone who won 3 GSL's has the mental fortitude to handle one loss. Mvp did an even worse bunker rush on the old summer version of Bel'Shir beach to him like a year ago where he walled the choke between the natural and the main.

That being said I'm glad they recognized the problem and it will be fixed, because that was pretty BS.


Still, losing due to map bug could be harder to get over because it usually does not happen.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 12 2012 13:34 GMT
#29
well that's just terrible
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 13:34 GMT
#30
On July 12 2012 22:33 ACrow wrote:
Well, sucks that it is a mistake, but nobody in their right mind should blame Byun for this. Neither should Nestea complain about it, he or any other Zerg pro should have noticed in preparation and file a complaint before a match. It's not like it's hidden or something, it's available for play in custom games, so they really should have noticed beforehand.

except the one they played in custom was probably fine, even if in custom they noiced no depot theyd just assume wrong map or that gom would fix it and keep playing
Pinnacle55
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore173 Posts
July 12 2012 13:34 GMT
#31
In my opinion, the fact that Byun was able to recognise the difference in the maps and change his build order on the fly (I'm assuming he found out at the same time as Nestea that the neutral depot was missing) shows that he is the better player.

If Nestea had the same awareness he would have at least made some precautions (at the very least he should have microed against the low-HP SCV better).

Nevertheless, I really hope that this can be fixed. I don't think it's GOM's fault because they weren't informed by the mapmakers, and from what I interpret, it's Blizzard's system that caused it, which is completely out of GOM's control.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 12 2012 13:35 GMT
#32
On July 12 2012 22:33 ACrow wrote:
Well, sucks that it is a mistake, but nobody in their right mind should blame Byun for this. Neither should Nestea complain about it, he or any other Zerg pro should have noticed in preparation and file a complaint before a match. It's not like it's hidden or something, it's available for play in custom games, so they really should have noticed beforehand.


Players were playing on it in GSTL, Code A and no one notice it seems except Byun.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 13:35 GMT
#33
On July 12 2012 22:34 Pinnacle55 wrote:
In my opinion, the fact that Byun was able to recognise the difference in the maps and change his build order on the fly (I'm assuming he found out at the same time as Nestea that the neutral depot was missing) shows that he is the better player.

If Nestea had the same awareness he would have at least made some precautions (at the very least he should have microed against the low-HP SCV better).

Nevertheless, I really hope that this can be fixed. I don't think it's GOM's fault because they weren't informed by the mapmakers, and from what I interpret, it's Blizzard's system that caused it, which is completely out of GOM's control.

it was stated that Byun figured it out in the GSTL and kept his mouth shut
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 12 2012 13:36 GMT
#34
That sucks but Byun probably would have won the series regardless
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 12 2012 13:36 GMT
#35
On July 12 2012 22:34 Pinnacle55 wrote:
In my opinion, the fact that Byun was able to recognise the difference in the maps and change his build order on the fly (I'm assuming he found out at the same time as Nestea that the neutral depot was missing) shows that he is the better player.

If Nestea had the same awareness he would have at least made some precautions (at the very least he should have microed against the low-HP SCV better).

Nevertheless, I really hope that this can be fixed. I don't think it's GOM's fault because they weren't informed by the mapmakers, and from what I interpret, it's Blizzard's system that caused it, which is completely out of GOM's control.


Nope, Byun noticed when he played vs CoCa in GSTL.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 12 2012 13:36 GMT
#36
On July 12 2012 22:34 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 22:33 ACrow wrote:
Well, sucks that it is a mistake, but nobody in their right mind should blame Byun for this. Neither should Nestea complain about it, he or any other Zerg pro should have noticed in preparation and file a complaint before a match. It's not like it's hidden or something, it's available for play in custom games, so they really should have noticed beforehand.

except the one they played in custom was probably fine, even if in custom they noiced no depot theyd just assume wrong map or that gom would fix it and keep playing

If they use the GSL version that is uploaded to BattleNet, they would see it. Why practice on any other version of the map but the one the tournament organizers are publishing?
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Sumadin
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark588 Posts
July 12 2012 13:37 GMT
#37
So it is a mistake afterall. Was kinda hoping it was some decision to allow it to happen on that map only. It would make sense given that is is already one of the bigest map in the pool and very zerg favored through mostly agains terran.

And really more latency issues on metropolis? Kinda hope GSL takes the Blizzard route and just trash this map next season. Looking at stats the balance is all over the place. I think it is time to just get rid of it. Send a note to the maker that he should mind his limits next time.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 12 2012 13:37 GMT
#38
well the fact that Byun took advantage of the bug with a prepared build is kinda lame to me. Not taking anything from his victory though
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 13:38 GMT
#39
On July 12 2012 22:36 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 22:34 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 22:33 ACrow wrote:
Well, sucks that it is a mistake, but nobody in their right mind should blame Byun for this. Neither should Nestea complain about it, he or any other Zerg pro should have noticed in preparation and file a complaint before a match. It's not like it's hidden or something, it's available for play in custom games, so they really should have noticed beforehand.

except the one they played in custom was probably fine, even if in custom they noiced no depot theyd just assume wrong map or that gom would fix it and keep playing

If they use the GSL version that is uploaded to BattleNet, they would see it. Why practice on any other version of the map but the one the tournament organizers are publishing?

because theres gonna be like 10 different versions of metrolpolis that are all the eact same?

and like i said, they could have assumed that Gom would fix it or most likely didnt even notice at all since aparently on Byun ever noticed despite it having been used all season
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 13:40:51
July 12 2012 13:39 GMT
#40
Nestea must have been so tilted for the rest of the series.

Is this the first time Nestea has been 3-0ed? Wouldn't surprise me.
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