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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 11 2012 13:47 GMT
#81
I wonder how many of these threads we're going to get this week.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
June 11 2012 13:48 GMT
#82
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think

say that again?
Why did foreigners have awesome stuff like MC teemo or leta backflip or MKP reddit hand sign or DRG awesome glasses or Boxer chanting...
I sure don't recall any
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 11 2012 13:49 GMT
#83
On June 11 2012 22:42 Roachu wrote:
This is a really touchy subject so I hope I don't mess this up. The "problem" with Korean players is not that they are Korean, it's that they are foreign to us (ironic right?). I can't relate to a quiet Korean player AT ALL, because the language has no similarities and they have distinct features I don't. When I watch an interview with a translator and the player is not able to communicate with the audience in any way at all using body language, excitement or whatever, and the only information I get is from the translator, that player is barely human in my eyes. Absolutely zero personality for me to relate to.
Obligatory "I'm not racist" comment, I won't even reply to accusations.


If you didn't see the personality and excitement in DRG last night, then you are just clueless.

Besides that, every U.S. player consistently performs like shit in MLG (and pretty much every other tournament). Does that mean I should stop watching MLG? No. I actually appreciate great games. Sure, you can root for foreigners/people from your country, but to seriously suggest that we should limit the amount of Koreans is stupid on so many levels that it hurts to think about it. SC2 will die if you try to segregate Korea and the foreign scene. Why? Because the Koreans are the best players, hands down, and more people will flock to watch them than to watch foreigners, even if they are the "home team". It's the same with other e-sports and even with other sports in general.
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Goldbullet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States88 Posts
June 11 2012 13:49 GMT
#84
tell the foreigners to stop playing only 3 hours a day and to step up their game.
also, SaSe is a beast
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lightertripod
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom44 Posts
June 11 2012 13:49 GMT
#85
if it was a team base game then ok but its not its a 1 on 1 if the top 50 players was all korean then they should be the ones that play
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
June 11 2012 13:50 GMT
#86
lets go back to mlg pre gsl cooperation where the finals were idra vs select
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
June 11 2012 13:51 GMT
#87
Most of those koreans were invited by their good showing in previous MLG if i'm not mistaken. So should we just tell them "sry we cant invite you because you are korean lol you are not allowed to play here" that is just racism gtfo.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 11 2012 13:51 GMT
#88
I don't have a problem with this, i want to see the bet games possible, and if that is what a ton koreans provides than I want it to be that way.
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farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
June 11 2012 13:51 GMT
#89
On June 11 2012 22:48 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think

say that again?
Why did foreigners have awesome stuff like MC teemo or leta backflip or MKP reddit hand sign or DRG awesome glasses or Boxer chanting...
I sure don't recall any

idra bm is personality
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
June 11 2012 13:51 GMT
#90
leta / fbh / jaedong / mc have way more personality than alot of foreigners

+ Show Spoiler +





I agree man no personality what so ever

But seriously, maybe the average korean pro-gamer is a bit shy/modest, but then you have these guys that just go crazy and it makes it 10 times better because you aren't expecting it out of them.
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Orzabal
Profile Joined December 2009
France287 Posts
June 11 2012 13:51 GMT
#91
again ?

Stop making this kind of thread.

MLG is a tournament. What is the problem to have the best players playing each other to win ?
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
June 11 2012 13:52 GMT
#92
On June 11 2012 22:50 farnham wrote:
lets go back to mlg pre gsl cooperation where the finals were idra vs select


i wouldnt mind watching that to be honest.. hardly watched any games this time around. Mostly watched the stephano or sase ones..
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 11 2012 13:52 GMT
#93
That's what WCG is for.

And about Korean players not having personality? Somebody doesn't follow the Korean scene AT ALL. The only foreigners I've seen do some sort of ceremony recently were Naniwa and Huk.

Just because they can't speak english too well doesn't mean they don't have a personality.
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-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
June 11 2012 13:53 GMT
#94
It doesn't matter what nationality the person is, as long as they practice like crazy (like how sase spent months training in Korea) they will improve and get good results
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:55:01
June 11 2012 13:54 GMT
#95
Yup this thread won't last long.

Foreigners just have to step up their game.
Limiting the numbers of Korean because they are better is plain bullshit just.LOL
Play your best
knicyo
Profile Joined June 2012
177 Posts
June 11 2012 13:54 GMT
#96
On June 11 2012 22:45 nokaah wrote:
He is not saying BAN the Koreans, he is saying limit the number - it is getting way to many.

aLive, Inori, Golden, Dream, Rain, Ganzi, JYP are all in the pool - do we really care about them? mediocre Koreans vs each other is why we watch GSL.

lets say we had White-ra, Kas, Snute, Dimaga,nechio,sen, happy instead.

Which lineup would you rather watch?


I'd rather watch aLive, Rain, JYP and Ganzi since I root for them.

I don't know why you picked those foreigner players, but the only one I'd like to watch is White-Ra since he's cool, but not because he's on as high level of play as koreans.

Most foreginer are as anonymous as koreans so I don't see the point in this at all.
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
June 11 2012 13:54 GMT
#97
I think tournaments should be about skill, not about racism.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:58:43
June 11 2012 13:57 GMT
#98
On June 11 2012 22:51 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 22:48 ETisME wrote:
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think

say that again?
Why did foreigners have awesome stuff like MC teemo or leta backflip or MKP reddit hand sign or DRG awesome glasses or Boxer chanting...
I sure don't recall any

idra bm is personality


You realize alot of korean organizations don't allow BM, right out ban it, or just prevents it from happening right. Like best example if FBH after moving to Air Force Ace which is sponsored by the korean air force doesn't do as many ceremonies any more, they removed chat option being visible in alot of korean events because people used to swear on them, the list goes on. Koreans don't see it as being professional and often have to apologize profusely or recieve team / league punishment for actual bm (not the joking kind).

Alot of korean esports have had histories of being partnered with sponsors from things like Banks, Air Force, major tele-communications companies, major korean air lines, etc; hence why the more safe chat and professionalism, it's not because they don't have any personality.
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 14:01:10
June 11 2012 13:57 GMT
#99
How many times are these threads going to pop up after each event? If you don't want to watch the highest level of competition then you can get the fuck out of the community. You have no buisness being part of TL at the very least.

This is not a competition of national teams. It's a competition of multinational teams. How are you going to tell EG that they can only send 2 of their players becuase you've put in some ridiculous rule that only 6 americans can partake in the entire event. No one but a moron would rather watch a diamond player in a mohawk than the best players in the world. I mean why the hell are you even watching sc2 if you don't like the actual game but are just looking for cool/funny people? You should consider watching reality TV instead of you're not at all interested in the competition.

Conclusion: The problem is in your head. Please stop posting on a forum that celebrates competetive gaming if you want to insert measures that stifles competition and undermines the whole scene at the same time.
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
June 11 2012 13:57 GMT
#100
On June 11 2012 22:51 Fueled wrote:
Show nested quote +
leta / fbh / jaedong / mc have way more personality than alot of foreigners

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmTkYSRc5rM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvr8rNn4YY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb2CU6A7uZ0


I agree man no personality what so ever

But seriously, maybe the average korean pro-gamer is a bit shy/modest, but then you have these guys that just go crazy and it makes it 10 times better because you aren't expecting it out of them.


HotBid did some great interviews at MLG this weekend, 2 with Koreans. As an exercise, watch (or show to someone) the HuK, desrow, MKP and DRG interviews, and see what personality traits you/they can assign to those players from those interviews. In my opinion it's easier to do for the foreigners.

Not saying that Koreans don't have personality, I just don't think it comes across the translation barrier in interviews. This may be also down to the interviewer being different when interviewing foreigners and Koreans, but that will be universal across interviewers I feel, because they simply can't joke around as much I don't think.
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