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GoSuMali
Profile Joined February 2012
France285 Posts
June 11 2012 13:25 GMT
#21
It's not MLG's fault if Koreans do better than "foreigners".
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Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
June 11 2012 13:25 GMT
#22
I definitely want to see more mediocre foreigner vs decent foreigner instead of MKP vs DRG.. Oh wait I don't
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
June 11 2012 13:28 GMT
#23
Basically you ask for racism. Get over the fact that foreigners are too bad to get higher representation and move on.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 11 2012 13:28 GMT
#24
On June 11 2012 22:13 zuperketla wrote:
MLG this weekend was great - but there is one problem with MLG that is rising higher and higher for every MLG we have. There is way to many Koreans!

There is 19 Koreans in the pools - that is just SICK. How would it look if Spain had 4 teams in the EURO 2012? Should they be allowed to do that because they are the best?

MLG really needs to have a maximum number of players from each country like every other serious sport out there. Make the biggest sc2 nations have a higher "player cap" than the smaller ones - make a seeding based on the country's RANKING.

Example:
Korea rank 1 country in the world: gets to have 8 players travel to MLG
Sweden rank 2 country in the world: gets to have 8 players travel to MLG
Russia rank 5 country in the world: gets to have 5 players travel to MLG
Norway rank 18 in the world: gets to have 1 player travel to MLG

This is a way it could be done - because right now people are losing interest because the tournament is just flooding over with Koreans. Sure we see great play but there is NOTHING more - we need someone to root for, we need the drama outside the match.

MLG last night was great - but after SaSe went out I just went to sleep - it was like there was nothing more to see.

I love the Korean scene but right now MLG might as well change name to GSL.


would suck too cause you have to regrit on the many us players ? or you cant have a new swedish guy in cause there are already 3 ? also its kind of rassistic ... its no world cup its a god damn tournament and its teh same in sports like DART or SNOOKER, you have 99% england people and then a few other xD

the BEST should come for the BEST games so thats whats great no rassistic shit, also it means way more if alot of koreans are in.

PS: why would i also want more guys get 0-2ed from koreans on groupstage ??? i want the best players and if you are good (stephano etc) you make 5-0 in group and just dont care !
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
June 11 2012 13:29 GMT
#25
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think


Then you get the Koreans like MC or MKP who do have personality and are still awesome who get tons of fans.

Yeah many Koreans have no personality but things like GSL Off the Record, interviews, steaming can all change that. Letting foreigners win on purpose hurts the scene a lot more.

There's always going to be tournaments without a ton of Koreans that foreigners can win. But the biggest and most prestigious (like MLG, IPL, etc.) need to be completely fair, or they need to be structured by country like WCS.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
June 11 2012 13:29 GMT
#26
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think


Lol. Personality has nothing to do with nationality
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NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
June 11 2012 13:29 GMT
#27
For me the point is:
We don't have high quality foreigner only tournaments.

It's nice to have MLG and watch some koreans playing in a differente style then GSL, but some times I miss the foreigner vs foreigner, and at this point I really think that watching Stephano vs SaSe, Socke vs Grubby and even Idra vs RandomDude6Pooling is as fun as watching DRG vs MKP or any high level korean.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 11 2012 13:30 GMT
#28
On June 11 2012 22:20 zuperketla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 22:17 Eee wrote:
Spain does have 4 spanish teams in the Champions League, you can't compare Euro 2012 to MLG because there is not really a Euro 2012 counterpart. We have WCG which is an olympic and every country can send a maximum of three players.
The Korean/Taiwanese seeding slots are restricted to 10, EU has 9 and US has 8. It's completely logical that the region that has the best players has more slots than the other regions.


Okey listen up - Spain has 4 teams in the Champions League for a REASON - they have highest NATION RANKING (together with England and Germany) - get it?


if its going by skill ...
frensh 1 germany 1 netherland 1 sweden 3 and the rest ahe to be korea

use have at the moment the most players they would have max 1 player ... its al failed cause if its going by success and skill its even MORE koreans !
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
June 11 2012 13:30 GMT
#29
If USA or Germany or another western country was the best and had the majority of players at MLG I dont think we would have these sort of threads.
sorry for dem one liners
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:31:30
June 11 2012 13:30 GMT
#30
On June 11 2012 22:29 NasKe_ wrote:
For me the point is:
We don't have high quality foreigner only tournaments.


Dreamhack ( ok, there's some koreans but only couple)
Uquu
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland474 Posts
June 11 2012 13:30 GMT
#31
As long as the games are entertaining to watch, i dont care if whole mlg would be bunch of koreans.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 11 2012 13:30 GMT
#32
On June 11 2012 22:29 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think


Lol. Personality has nothing to do with nationality


no its just you pissed because they cant speak english well ...
dont tell me its less personality if i see MC he does more ceremony then any foreign and dude u saw the backflip of leta ? ...
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:31:14
June 11 2012 13:30 GMT
#33
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think

Oh come on desRow... It's not that they don't have personality, some of them just have a difficult time showing their personality because of the language barrier.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
June 11 2012 13:30 GMT
#34
On June 11 2012 22:29 SimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think


Then you get the Koreans like MC or MKP who do have personality and are still awesome who get tons of fans.

Yeah many Koreans have no personality but things like GSL Off the Record, interviews, steaming can all change that. Letting foreigners win on purpose hurts the scene a lot more.

There's always going to be tournaments without a ton of Koreans that foreigners can win. But the biggest and most prestigious (like MLG, IPL, etc.) need to be completely fair, or they need to be structured by country like WCS.

Maybe we just think they have less personality because they don't speak english and post on TL?
Plus behaving like a dick (i.e. naniwa) is a lame excuse for personality.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:33:41
June 11 2012 13:31 GMT
#35
I think a lot more people would get upset over having Ostojiy-Select (no offense meant to named players) duking it out for 25k in the MLG final than there are people upset over lack of foreign personalities getting deep into tournaments.

Hell, this MLG we even had two foreigners in top6, and several quite well known/high profile koreans there too.

It couldve been a lot worse.
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
June 11 2012 13:32 GMT
#36
I agree with the ranking-based slots in the op
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Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
June 11 2012 13:32 GMT
#37
On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think



I'm pretty sure i'd rather watch someone who's good rather than someone who is shitty but screams a lot
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Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
June 11 2012 13:32 GMT
#38
It is an individual game, nationality doesn't matter. Look at Tennis, there were 2 spannish in the ro4 of Roland Garos. Should we limit spannish player in Roland Garros? Makes no sense.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:34:09
June 11 2012 13:33 GMT
#39
I don't think MLG needs to be a league that limits the amount of players from a certain country, that would be really stupid and it would de-legitimize the entire tournament.

There's a reason people didn't take Naniwa's MLG dallas win that seriously; because there were no koreans. Really, would anyone take a SaSe or Stephano win at MLG seriously if it may just have very well been because they didn't let MKP, Bomber, MC, Nestea, etc. come to the tournament?

It would turn the tournament into a kiddie pool of sorts.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 11 2012 13:33 GMT
#40
obligatory Too many Koreans! thread before and after every MLG? theres no way MLG is going to put a country cap on the players. It's an open tournament, not an invitational.
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