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King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
April 21 2012 22:53 GMT
#261
On April 21 2012 10:13 Fanek wrote:
Juni has answered that "You must play Terran. That is all."


Smart boy


Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
April 21 2012 23:13 GMT
#262
On April 22 2012 04:30 huehuehuehue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 03:13 Zephos wrote:
I really wish bisu wouldn't switch, but I can completely understand why he would make the decision. TLPD winrates have put terran on the top and toss on the bottom for pretty much every month SC2 has been out. No amount of of nostalgia value will make up for the fact that, from a progamer's perspective, choosing protoss is flat out stupid.

....Look at the GSL. Protoss is in no way weak.


Yeah, look at the GSL. We've had only one protoss player win it (mc) and it was quite a long time ago. Your argument is solid.

User was temp banned for this post.
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
April 21 2012 23:15 GMT
#263
so what kind of the skillsets you need to be a top protoss player? like something that is more important for toss than for the other two races? i think most progamers can play all races on about equal levels if they try and learn?
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 23:21:05
April 21 2012 23:18 GMT
#264
On April 22 2012 07:22 rafaliusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 06:09 Sprungjeezy wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:
IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross

i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example:
"Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단

69/15 82.14%
-------
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/

maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59%

btw. I'm form SC2 forum

No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that.


To compare Flash to any other human is blasphemy, his losses in the finals are explained by the fact hes probably been playing SC2 so much.

You guys really overvalue Flash's skills. He's just a human. We've seen that in the SPL finals - Fantasy flat out outplayed him, in Ace match against Bisu he made stupid decisions. It will take him and any other pro a lot of the time to catch up to players like MKP, Nestea etc.


Flash's ability to adapt is unparalleled. He relies on his incredible game sense and timings to secure his victories, not his mechanics. Any BW pro who switches over will have top mechanics on the scene, but what will separate the best from the rest will be game sense and hard work (I don't think anyone trains as hard as flash does, and his work ethic will carry over to ensure he stays on the top).
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 23:45:23
April 21 2012 23:45 GMT
#265
It will be funny to see that when BW elitists' predictions regarding domination by Flash and Jaedong fall flat, they will immediately blame it on SC2's game design. Calling it now and I'm gonna necro this thread when it happens.
JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
April 21 2012 23:52 GMT
#266
On April 22 2012 08:45 Doodsmack wrote:
It will be funny to see that when BW elitists' predictions regarding domination by Flash and Jaedong fall flat, they will immediately blame it on SC2's game design. Calling it now and I'm gonna necro this thread when it happens.


Woah slow down there Nostradamus,
I'm Jeff Goldblum
Nagano
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1157 Posts
April 22 2012 00:29 GMT
#267
On April 22 2012 08:45 Doodsmack wrote:
It will be funny to see that when BW elitists' predictions regarding domination by Flash and Jaedong fall flat, they will immediately blame it on SC2's game design. Calling it now and I'm gonna necro this thread when it happens.


lol that post is awesome. I hope they do well, and I'm sure they'll do well. It's just natural
“The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.”
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
April 22 2012 00:56 GMT
#268
NOPE NOPE NOPE.

Bisu please don't switch, you are the Prince of Protoss.
Turn off the radio
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
April 22 2012 01:12 GMT
#269
On April 22 2012 08:45 Doodsmack wrote:
It will be funny to see that when BW elitists' predictions regarding domination by Flash and Jaedong fall flat, they will immediately blame it on SC2's game design. Calling it now and I'm gonna necro this thread when it happens.


It's not "BW elitists," simple logic would tell you they would both do well. They can both play every part of the game (micro, multitask, macro, mind games, etc.) at a high level AND practice a lot. That's the thing, if they practice as much as they do now there's basically no logical reason for them to not be top-tier players in sc2, even disregarding their current BW skill.

NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
Norada
Profile Joined August 2010
China482 Posts
April 22 2012 01:39 GMT
#270
It really depends, how do you know TBLS will actually like the game? If the game is boring for them or there's no drive to do well not quite sure they will be the best. It's like in the interview, it's a reset and whoever has the biggest drive, practices the most and gets information from current sc2 pros will do the best imo.

sc2 also has a low skill ceiling so I think whoever just practices the most and gets used to every different situation the game throws at them will do the best.
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
April 22 2012 01:44 GMT
#271
On April 22 2012 10:39 Norada wrote:
It really depends, how do you know TBLS will actually like the game? If the game is boring for them or there's no drive to do well not quite sure they will be the best. It's like in the interview, it's a reset and whoever has the biggest drive, practices the most and gets information from current sc2 pros will do the best imo.

sc2 also has a low skill ceiling so I think whoever just practices the most and gets used to every different situation the game throws at them will do the best.


People like you need to be banned for trolling unless you can prove SC2 has a low skill ceiling.
Biggun69
Profile Joined December 2010
187 Posts
April 22 2012 01:53 GMT
#272
On April 21 2012 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Noooo Bisu you must be Protoss! My mind can't even figure out what I would do if Bisu played a different race. It'd just be wrong.


Bisu's multitasking and apm would be wasted on protoss. That would be just wrong.
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
April 22 2012 02:02 GMT
#273
Please Bisu. Please don't. Don't give in to the temptation!!
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Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 22 2012 02:12 GMT
#274
On April 22 2012 10:53 Biggun69 wrote:
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On April 21 2012 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Noooo Bisu you must be Protoss! My mind can't even figure out what I would do if Bisu played a different race. It'd just be wrong.


Bisu's multitasking and apm would be wasted on protoss. That would be just wrong.



not agree, i want to see bisu use 3 warp prisms, have 6 phoenixes and that new protoss unit that stops mining all at once
rolypoly
Profile Joined March 2009
20 Posts
April 22 2012 02:15 GMT
#275
fark it!

i don't want go SC2 ..
Starcraft
Grohg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States243 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 02:20:06
April 22 2012 02:16 GMT
#276
On April 22 2012 10:39 Norada wrote:
It really depends, how do you know TBLS will actually like the game? If the game is boring for them or there's no drive to do well not quite sure they will be the best. It's like in the interview, it's a reset and whoever has the biggest drive, practices the most and gets information from current sc2 pros will do the best imo.

sc2 also has a low skill ceiling so I think whoever just practices the most and gets used to every different situation the game throws at them will do the best.


Considering the skill ceiling hasn't been reached and play is continually getting better I don't understand posts like this. That's why BW pros switching over is exciting...most people want SC2 to be stretched to its limit since no one is doing that now. There's way too much that isn't done correctly on a consistent basis to even suggest that the skill cap is close to being touched.

If BW players practice hard like they are used to doing, they can catch up to the current skill level and start paving the way for newer styles of play. That's when you'll see something special. HotS will be another reset...once everyone is thrown back to a fresh starting line, then we'll get to see a different type of SC2 evolve.
You can't spell slaughter without laughter.
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
April 22 2012 02:24 GMT
#277
On April 22 2012 10:44 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 10:39 Norada wrote:
It really depends, how do you know TBLS will actually like the game? If the game is boring for them or there's no drive to do well not quite sure they will be the best. It's like in the interview, it's a reset and whoever has the biggest drive, practices the most and gets information from current sc2 pros will do the best imo.

sc2 also has a low skill ceiling so I think whoever just practices the most and gets used to every different situation the game throws at them will do the best.


People like you need to be banned for trolling unless you can prove SC2 has a low skill ceiling.

It's more like:

People like you need to be banned for trolling unless you can prove SC2 hasn't a low skill ceiling.

Stop posting here and creating more BW vs sc2 rants.
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
April 22 2012 02:28 GMT
#278
On April 22 2012 11:24 empty.bottle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 10:44 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On April 22 2012 10:39 Norada wrote:
It really depends, how do you know TBLS will actually like the game? If the game is boring for them or there's no drive to do well not quite sure they will be the best. It's like in the interview, it's a reset and whoever has the biggest drive, practices the most and gets information from current sc2 pros will do the best imo.

sc2 also has a low skill ceiling so I think whoever just practices the most and gets used to every different situation the game throws at them will do the best.


People like you need to be banned for trolling unless you can prove SC2 has a low skill ceiling.

It's more like:

People like you need to be banned for trolling unless you can prove SC2 hasn't a low skill ceiling.

Stop posting here and creating more BW vs sc2 rants.


When people stop posting utter bullshit i'll stop calling them out. It's rediculous to say SC2 has a low skill ceiling. If the skill celing was so low, then we would see a ton more gamers at the same level, while in reality there aren't that many TOP TOP players. Also i think you should stop putting words in my mouth. I never mentioned BW at all. I didn't start any SC2 vs BW argument thanks.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 22 2012 02:34 GMT
#279
I'm more intrigued by Flash possibly choosing Protoss as his race in SC2

curious if he can actually show something different with SC2 Protoss.

if I was a BW progamer choosing to play a SC2 race though, I'd be all over Terran

anyways, would have been interesting what BW players would have chosen if HotS came out or whether any will change their race after HotS comes out, but who knows when HotS will be released.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
April 22 2012 02:35 GMT
#280
On April 21 2012 10:43 Kiett wrote:
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On April 21 2012 10:41 Harem wrote:
On April 21 2012 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Noooo Bisu you must be Protoss! My mind can't even figure out what I would do if Bisu played a different race. It'd just be wrong.

You know that Bisu was originally Terran in BW right?

(so was Best)

So was Stork. But they all found their true (and far superior) calling.

Once you go Aiur, you can't go back.

Well said kiett, well said. I bet Bisu will go back to toss because he will like the Warp prism, since it can be used for things like collosus drops which are kinda like reaver drops except not as cool T.T, but also because of the warp mechanic which i believe he will like. I don't know what kind of imbalance they are talking about though.
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