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On April 22 2012 02:38 Eufouria wrote:
What are people going by to assume that these grandmaster players are BW pros? Of course they're all very skilled RTS players, but I doubt they're good enough to reach Korean GM with only a few months of practice, during which they were also practicing for BW leagues.
These accounts are all likely top SC2 player's (read:MarineKing) smurfs.
edit: Also I like how players of each race say they're considering switching due to imbalance.
I'm pretty sure their skill would allow them to get into GM in a month or less. However, when GM is locked it's almost impossible to get in the league.
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TheRock really :O!? That's gonna be so hilarious once he switches lol, I wanna see the greatness!!!
Also, I wanna see ZerO tear it up (after he wins OSL of course!), he will have the best queen control ever :D :D :D.
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Bisu as terran i think would benifit him the most since his talent and skill fit terran pretty well.
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While I do agree that Bisu's skills would probably be most suitable for Terran...I really wanted to see him play Protoss T_T
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would be cool if these bw pros could help balance the game and help the sc2 dev team with the hots units.
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come to think of it i remember bisu making a remark on how bad protoss units were, he probably massed chargelot blink stalker though lol
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On April 22 2012 03:13 Zephos wrote:
I really wish bisu wouldn't switch, but I can completely understand why he would make the decision. TLPD winrates have put terran on the top and toss on the bottom for pretty much every month SC2 has been out. No amount of of nostalgia value will make up for the fact that, from a progamer's perspective, choosing protoss is flat out stupid.
Things change over time. There's 2 expansions coming, and already the units announced for HotS will destroy everything we know about SC2 right now. There's really no reason to think a race that's OP right this second will continue to be OP in the future. So Bisu and everyone else should pick the race that plays to their strengths.
Also, the consensus right now is that protoss is not weak anymore. I'm honestly not sure even though I follow SC2 closely. In any case, the relative strengths and player results as they stand right now are a very bad reason to pick races.
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I'd be willing to switch to whatever race Bisu plays... too big of an influence not to :D
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On April 22 2012 03:13 Zephos wrote:
I really wish bisu wouldn't switch, but I can completely understand why he would make the decision. TLPD winrates have put terran on the top and toss on the bottom for pretty much every month SC2 has been out. No amount of of nostalgia value will make up for the fact that, from a progamer's perspective, choosing protoss is flat out stupid.
....Look at the GSL. Protoss is in no way weak.
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On April 21 2012 10:43 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 10:41 Harem wrote:On April 21 2012 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Noooo Bisu you must be Protoss! My mind can't even figure out what I would do if Bisu played a different race. It'd just be wrong. You know that Bisu was originally Terran in BW right? (so was Best) So was Stork. But they all found their true (and far superior) calling. Once you go Aiur, you can't go back.
But... Boxer...
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I really want to see jaedong and flash play sc2 to see if they can dominate. Also will they be playing in the gsl or other events or are they still stuck with kespa??
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I just want him to do well, but going terran would be a bit depressing... :-/ Then again how many new things can you do with protoss when compared to the other races? I feel like there is still a lot to be explored, but Protoss has the fewest options.
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On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that.
To compare Flash to any other human is blasphemy, his losses in the finals are explained by the fact hes probably been playing SC2 so much.
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On April 22 2012 06:09 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example: "Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단69/15 82.14% ------- http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59% btw. I'm form SC2 forum  No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that. To compare Flash to any other human is blasphemy, his losses in the finals are explained by the fact hes probably been playing SC2 so much.
You think KT was playing sc2 as they had to climb from 4th place to the finals? there's no way, especially their ace.
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On April 22 2012 06:26 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:09 Sprungjeezy wrote:On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example: "Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단69/15 82.14% ------- http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59% btw. I'm form SC2 forum No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that. To compare Flash to any other human is blasphemy, his losses in the finals are explained by the fact hes probably been playing SC2 so much. You think KT was playing sc2 as they had to climb from 4th place to the finals? there's no way, especially their ace.
I was joking. About the second part atleast : P
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On April 22 2012 06:32 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:26 Dodgin wrote:On April 22 2012 06:09 Sprungjeezy wrote:On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example: "Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단69/15 82.14% ------- http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59% btw. I'm form SC2 forum No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that. To compare Flash to any other human is blasphemy, his losses in the finals are explained by the fact hes probably been playing SC2 so much. You think KT was playing sc2 as they had to climb from 4th place to the finals? there's no way, especially their ace. I was joking. About the second part atleast : P
ah okay all is forgiven then I was a bit stunned anyone would believe Flash lost in the finals because of him playing sc2 =/
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On April 22 2012 03:32 a9arnn wrote:
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Also, I wanna see ZerO tear it up (after he wins OSL of course!), he will have the best queen control ever :D :D :D.
I remember some SC2pro saying that he saw ZerO playing sc2 a bit
and being pretty good already.
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Bisu P is special in everyway because of his multitasking, thats why i love to watch his games.
Sc2 is not a very heavy multitasking game unlike bw i dont think the race he choose is gonna matter that much.
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On April 22 2012 06:52 ivirj wrote:
Bisu P is special in everyway because of his multitasking, thats why i love to watch his games.
Sc2 is not a very heavy multitasking game unlike bw i dont think the race he choose is gonna matter that much.
SC2 may not be as multitasking heavy as BW, but don't try to claim it's not a heavy multitasking game in it's own right. That's a flat out lie. Maybe in silver league people don't multitask but i think you'll find there is a ton of multitasking at pro level.
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On April 22 2012 06:09 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example: "Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단69/15 82.14% ------- http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59% btw. I'm form SC2 forum No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that. To compare Flash to any other human is blasphemy, his losses in the finals are explained by the fact hes probably been playing SC2 so much.
You guys really overvalue Flash's skills. He's just a human. We've seen that in the SPL finals - Fantasy flat out outplayed him, in Ace match against Bisu he made stupid decisions. It will take him and any other pro a lot of the time to catch up to players like MKP, Nestea etc.
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