EPTBisu as terran in SC2 ? - Page 16
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Befree
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Pulselol
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This is a great disappointment for me. | ||
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Australia235 Posts
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Windwaker
Germany1597 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
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Norada
China482 Posts
On April 22 2012 13:30 Rainfall7711 wrote: IF we are comparing to BW. The we simply say BW has a HIGHER skill ceiling. Saying that doesn't make the SC2 skill ceiling LOW. How many games have a skill ceiling higher than SC2? IF it's just BW i'd call that a high skill ceiling. I did mean a lower skill ceiling compared to bw, because what other game is worth mentioning or comparing? Of course you can make the argument that sc2 has a higher skill ceiling than hello kitty island adventure, so there's no reason to think in generalization, we're comparing the two games and scenes. Also im not bashing sc2 in anyway, i was GM on china and america for awhile. It's just you will likely not see someone who will dominate since the skill ceiling is low(more hard counters, ways to beat people with cheese), , and it's all about the practice and learning about different situations. You wont see people dominating and it's the exact reason why you see so many people be bi-polar in their play.(switching between winning and losing) I hope the new expansion can make things better though, sc1 was pretty shit but when BW came it was a lot better. Hoping for the same with sc2. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 22 2012 17:54 Torenhire wrote: It sounds weird but if you've played both games, Terran has a pretty similar feel to BW Protoss in SC2...I'm not surprised to be honest. Yes this is very true. Protoss in SC2 feels much more like Terran in SC1 oddly enough. | ||
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Kyrillion
Russian Federation748 Posts
lol, do you realise that something is "low" when you compare it to something else? I mean there's no way you can say Sc2 skill ceiling isn't/is low, unless you are comparing it to something, since we are in a RTS community, and the highest skill lies on BW, you are mentioning BW anyway. Unless you live in a magical world where things that you can't measure have an absolute value, and a scale that measures how big/small that value is. Of course skill ceiling is something absolute. A game has a high skill ceiling if one has to invest a lot of time and effort in order to attain a high level. It is low if mastering it (that is, not playing perfectly but almost) does not require a lot of time and effort. Imagine DOTA were the only video game left in the world, would it all of a sudden stop being a low-skill ceiling game ? It wouldn't. And the reason why your reasoning does not work is that the skill ceiling of a game is per se considered from a human point of view. We could call a wall above 2 meters high, and below 1,5 m low and that would sound absurd as such, why does the change occur around 2m indeed ; but it is implied it's regarded from a human perspective. The same goes for games, all their features revolve around human ability. | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
On April 22 2012 20:04 Plexa wrote: Yes this is very true. Protoss in SC2 feels much more like Terran in SC1 oddly enough. Comedy answer is that all races in SC2 feels like BW toss is because all you need to do is 1a2a3a Real answer is probably because SC2 terran has a aggressive opening of Banshee which feels very similar to 2gate dts, in which you expand behind very powerful aggression (that can end the game if unprepared) or bio openings that revolve around controling the center of the map. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5888 Posts
On April 22 2012 22:33 kamikami wrote: Is this confirmed or only a rumor ? I'm not playing any ladder game now because I want to play the same race as Bisu. So is it confirmed that he will play Terran ? Play BW, problem solved. ^____^ | ||
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Hazzyboy
Estonia555 Posts
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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Zephos
United States71 Posts
On April 22 2012 17:54 Torenhire wrote: It sounds weird but if you've played both games, Terran has a pretty similar feel to BW Protoss in SC2...I'm not surprised to be honest. I actually noticed this. When I tried out brood war, i didn't feel comfortable at all with toss and found myself gravitating towards terran. I think it's because in bw terran uses an immobile, high tech army and toss relies heavily on their tier one, which is obviously the opposite of how it plays out in sc2. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On April 23 2012 00:32 Zephos wrote: I actually noticed this. When I tried out brood war, i didn't feel comfortable at all with toss and found myself gravitating towards terran. I think it's because in bw terran uses an immobile, high tech army and toss relies heavily on their tier one, which is obviously the opposite of how it plays out in sc2. I have a feeling that Terran in BW = Zerg in SC2. Both races focus on inching forward with careful alignment of units or buildings. One moves with impeccable Spider Mine placements and Tanks, the other utilize the Creep Spread ability in order to gain mobility advantage. But at the end of the day, they are just turtling up until a final push. SC2 Terran's army is way too fast. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On April 22 2012 16:32 Skwid1g wrote: And casting for 8+ hours a day multiple times a week. OHH NOO!!!! PANDA BEAR GUY!!!! probably was the cause. | ||
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Fallians
Canada242 Posts
On April 22 2012 20:04 Plexa wrote: Yes this is very true. Protoss in SC2 feels much more like Terran in SC1 oddly enough. I always thought terran n BW was similar to zerg in SC2.. Maybe it's just me | ||
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covetousrat
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On April 23 2012 01:42 Fallians wrote: I always thought terran n BW was similar to zerg in SC2.. Maybe it's just me I've heard both but I've always thought that Terran plays more like Protoss than Zerg in SCII but either way, Terran doesn't play the whole unstoppable deathball style in SCII as well (unless you can get a crapton of thors) | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On April 23 2012 01:55 Antisocialmunky wrote: I've heard both but I've always thought that Terran plays more like Protoss than Zerg in SCII but either way, Terran doesn't play the whole unstoppable deathball style in SCII as well (unless you can get a crapton of thors) what about dem siege tanks? they are still pretty useful in the sequel. | ||
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