EPTThe Korean dominance in recent events. What to do? - Page 15
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sjperera
Canada349 Posts
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murkk
Canada154 Posts
It is what it is. It's a game that has a lot of hardcore players who want to see the best players playing. The NA and EUR scene is pretty much dead but there are a handful of skilled players who are fun to watch. There is just zero money to train players outside maybe 3 foreign teams, and the multiplayer portion of SC2 isn't that addictive to the masses (wow, a ladder that's 100% meaningless). | ||
Grend
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1sz2sz3sz
Andorra173 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:57 Grend wrote: How about foreigners improving? Thats asking a bit much dont you think? | ||
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
Not to mention it would be impossible to limit player invites for one nation and do it fairly. People would always only invite the big names who draw crowds leaving lesser known/popular but equally skilled players to lament the fact that they never get a chance to be seen. The only thing I would suggest the western scene change is having more national level competitions to breed stronger competition within regions. People can see more western players that way and it would help ensure that top players in each area are regularly challenged and rewarded. Hopefully that would lead to a healthier level of foreign competitiveness at international events. * I'm ignoring training and infrastructure problems for the moment since that's honestly a whole seperate issue. | ||
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murkk
Canada154 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:57 Grend wrote: How about foreigners improving? Not happening any time soon. You've seen the best of the foreign players already, and there are zero players that will emerge in the next little while. The names you see right now are really just older names from the initial batch of SC1 and WC3 converts. | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
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Diader
United States232 Posts
Look at Scarlett, she was just a ladder player. Imagine how good she'll be once she gets picked up by a team and has even better practice for several months. Then imagine all the other teamless players in NA and EU GM also getting that kind of opportunity. | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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murkk
Canada154 Posts
On April 10 2012 10:07 EchoZ wrote: Work harder. People in NA and EUR are kinda wierd. We tend to like getting paid when we work. Generally more than 25 cents an hour. | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
At its basic level, the competition between how far two men are able to throw a ball is not very tantalizing, and easily becomes dull. But cast in the mold of a rivalry between two public bodies, they attract legions of attentive fans. For through the narrative of international competition, the sportsman is reformed into the role of the hero - the champion of his people and the bearer of their hope and esteem. His success in a simple act is then transformed into a victory of the people, and through it, an event of utmost importance. Thus it was with the Greeks, and thus it is today with international sports and eSports. Competition in Starcraft, no different from other sports, is fundamentally a social construct. Without the social context, being good at Starcraft is immaterial and inconsequential - after all, it's just a computer game. But when cast in the mold of the foreigner vs. Korean rivalry, of an international competition between players from all over the world, it takes on a new meaning. That meaning is what grants a simple sport the ability to swing the gaze of the world. The purpose of ensuring equal participation between the SC playing regions is not to give foreigners an unfair advantage in eSports. Korean players are not to be restricted because they are too good, but because having too many of them in a single competition compromises the function of international sports as a proxy for international competition. Having twenty Koreans in a global competition facing off against a single foreigner breaks the role of the sport, and that is what has to be prevented for SC to take on the importance that other sports have. In short, it's not about restricting Koreans from SC 2 competitions - it's about ensuring that other people have the opportunity to be in the spotlight. But this is contingent on the way tournaments are conducted, as well - the reason IPL 4 was a tournament of Koreans was because the foreigners fighting their way through the OB were basically invisible. I am willing to entertain a solution that continues to give Koreans a lot of spots in tournaments, provided it gives foreigners the ability to stand in the spotlight to perform their roles as proxies. | ||
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Tenken
United States17 Posts
Quit making posts like these after every single event | ||
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Clank
United States548 Posts
On April 10 2012 10:07 EchoZ wrote: Work harder. i dont really think its all due to lack of work ethic on the foreigners part, as many players play 10+ hours a day and put a lot of effort into the game (granted koreans do work harder in general). I think the main reason is a lack of focus and drive to that practice. I don't know for sure, but id suspect its got something to do with the fact that korean teams have coaches to help them out. Most tennis players and golfers have their own coaches to help them out and you wouldn't expect the majority of players without coaches to really compete with those that do. | ||
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Ancient-Hunter
Korea (South)142 Posts
And while I do believe in a healthy international turnout I also believe that the overall skill level of the game cannot be sacrificed. If the majority of the talent exist in Korea then the majority of participants in premier events should be Korean. | ||
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Moosy
Canada396 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:44 tranmillitary wrote: Yeah because all Nestea can do is All-ins. Shows how much you know about SC2 and e-sports in general. Too many kids on this forum. I'm sure it's not all he can do, but it was what he did. | ||
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BlueBoxSC
United States582 Posts
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
suck it up. play better. or go home. there really isn't any more to it and its the same for all sports. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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