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orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
November 21 2014 21:23 GMT
#5961
On November 22 2014 06:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Yeah, I don't really understand GoodGame Agency's involvement and why they felt this distinction was even necessary.

Is even better for Alex Garfield. He will make new brands with team tinker/secter with LoL teams and focus on other titles with EG (like Halo).
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 21 2014 21:24 GMT
#5962
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 21 2014 21:26 GMT
#5963
GGA and Kelby can claim that they are "only involved with sponsorships for clg" all they want but Alex Garfield essentially has influence over 3 lcs teams now.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 21 2014 21:26 GMT
#5964
That really sucks honestly. All it does is get an old brand that people from outside of LoL know(EG) and another newer brand that has picked up steam(Alliance) out of League forcing them to get league specific brands. Don't see how this helps Riot at all. Having cross game brands in League is important, they don't want to isolate themselves from the rest of gaming even further.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
November 21 2014 21:27 GMT
#5965
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 21 2014 21:42 GMT
#5966
On November 22 2014 06:27 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.

Nope he doesnt own them. He sells sponsorships for 3 teams now, and potentially more in the future.
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 21 2014 21:45 GMT
#5967
IEM San Jose will be played on 4.20. Which means teams get 2 weeks to prepare. Should make things pretty interesting.

http://www.eslgaming.com/article/iem-san-jose-first-major-competition-new-league-legends-420-patch
Off-season = best season
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
November 21 2014 22:08 GMT
#5968
On November 22 2014 06:42 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 06:27 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.

Nope he doesnt own them. He sells sponsorships for 3 teams now, and potentially more in the future.

He doesn't own them but still he control them and this is obvious.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 21 2014 23:00 GMT
#5969
On November 22 2014 07:08 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 06:42 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:27 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.

Nope he doesnt own them. He sells sponsorships for 3 teams now, and potentially more in the future.

He doesn't own them but still he control them and this is obvious.

Yeah like the illuminati control TL.
Off-season = best season
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
November 21 2014 23:05 GMT
#5970
For fuck's sake Riot.... really discouraging, one of the reasons that got me into watching more LoL was the fact EG name was there... wont be the same, doubt Ill be cheering for the new old EG since it has no team brand, none of the previous players....
Sad times.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 22 2014 01:08 GMT
#5971
On November 22 2014 08:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 07:08 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:42 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:27 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.

Nope he doesnt own them. He sells sponsorships for 3 teams now, and potentially more in the future.

He doesn't own them but still he control them and this is obvious.

Yeah like the illuminati control TL.


Lol, Redox, pls :D
People were saying same shit when [A] appeared in 2013.

It's same in football, agencies behind teams are way more powerful than teams itself.
Alex lost nothing in this, but won players. I'm only interested in brands now.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 22 2014 02:19 GMT
#5972

TSM Santorin confirmed
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 22 2014 06:25 GMT
#5973
have to agree seeing as the new rules don't change GGA's power at all, getting rid of established brands seems like a net loss for Riot but ok.
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 14:42:34
November 22 2014 07:47 GMT
#5974
LPL expansion spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
YG are dropped down to LSPL, 1-2 defeats to VG.S and EP.C dashes their LPL return dreams
Energy Pacemaker are the first team to qualify for the newly expanded LPL 2-0 over VG
VG 2-0s EP.C to claim the second expanded slot, note that EP.C was the team that held the slot for kakao/rookie so they are not going to LPL
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 11:56:33
November 22 2014 11:55 GMT
#5975
On November 22 2014 10:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 08:00 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 07:08 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:42 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:27 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.

Nope he doesnt own them. He sells sponsorships for 3 teams now, and potentially more in the future.

He doesn't own them but still he control them and this is obvious.

Yeah like the illuminati control TL.


Lol, Redox, pls :D
People were saying same shit when [A] appeared in 2013.

It's same in football, agencies behind teams are way more powerful than teams itself.
Alex lost nothing in this, but won players. I'm only interested in brands now.

Yeah the football example kind of demonstrates what I mean, hyperbole into utter nonsense.


On November 22 2014 15:25 Slusher wrote:
have to agree seeing as the new rules don't change GGA's power at all, getting rid of established brands seems like a net loss for Riot but ok.

So lets specify, what kind of power do they have? Do they command roster changes? Can they force results?
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 13:19:42
November 22 2014 13:12 GMT
#5976
On November 22 2014 20:55 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 10:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On November 22 2014 08:00 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 07:08 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:42 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:27 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.

Nope he doesnt own them. He sells sponsorships for 3 teams now, and potentially more in the future.

He doesn't own them but still he control them and this is obvious.

Yeah like the illuminati control TL.


Lol, Redox, pls :D
People were saying same shit when [A] appeared in 2013.

It's same in football, agencies behind teams are way more powerful than teams itself.
Alex lost nothing in this, but won players. I'm only interested in brands now.

Yeah the football example kind of demonstrates what I mean, hyperbole into utter nonsense.


Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 15:25 Slusher wrote:
have to agree seeing as the new rules don't change GGA's power at all, getting rid of established brands seems like a net loss for Riot but ok.

So lets specify, what kind of power do they have? Do they command roster changes? Can they force results?


Holy fuck, like, seriously.
Read this at least. http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2013/12/19/4489797/the-falcao-factor-how-third-parties-gatecrash-footballs-transfer-

It's real net worth for Riot, losing EG/[A] brand is hilariously weird, EG is biggest established esports team in West, not even TSM is close. But Alex doesn't lose anything, players are still his, so if someone buys Froggen/Pobelter, it's net worth win for him.
I hope, Maelk is going to have okay name for org.
GEM is probably good example of selling players, like, First, YoDa and bunch of others have teams but rights for them are GEMs most likely.

On less serious note, Incredible Miracle and HUYA Tigers just qualified for OGN 2015 Spring (can i call them LCL finally?), not spoiling it because other thread spoiled everything,
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
November 22 2014 14:26 GMT
#5977
On November 22 2014 20:55 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 10:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On November 22 2014 08:00 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 07:08 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:42 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:27 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.

Nope he doesnt own them. He sells sponsorships for 3 teams now, and potentially more in the future.

He doesn't own them but still he control them and this is obvious.

Yeah like the illuminati control TL.


Lol, Redox, pls :D
People were saying same shit when [A] appeared in 2013.

It's same in football, agencies behind teams are way more powerful than teams itself.
Alex lost nothing in this, but won players. I'm only interested in brands now.

Yeah the football example kind of demonstrates what I mean, hyperbole into utter nonsense.


Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 15:25 Slusher wrote:
have to agree seeing as the new rules don't change GGA's power at all, getting rid of established brands seems like a net loss for Riot but ok.

So lets specify, what kind of power do they have? Do they command roster changes? Can they force results?

Do you really believe that some like Maelk that works full time for joindota and have literally 0 clue about LoL was/is running Alliance? Also in Alliance roster in control by players and they choose who to kick etc.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 22 2014 15:50 GMT
#5978
On November 22 2014 22:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 20:55 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 10:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On November 22 2014 08:00 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 07:08 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:42 Redox wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:27 orzeu wrote:
On November 22 2014 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
TL;DR: you acted on Velocity/EG before we had time to react but no more double dipping for you, Mr. Garfield.

What? He still controls both teams.

Nope he doesnt own them. He sells sponsorships for 3 teams now, and potentially more in the future.

He doesn't own them but still he control them and this is obvious.

Yeah like the illuminati control TL.


Lol, Redox, pls :D
People were saying same shit when [A] appeared in 2013.

It's same in football, agencies behind teams are way more powerful than teams itself.
Alex lost nothing in this, but won players. I'm only interested in brands now.

Yeah the football example kind of demonstrates what I mean, hyperbole into utter nonsense.


On November 22 2014 15:25 Slusher wrote:
have to agree seeing as the new rules don't change GGA's power at all, getting rid of established brands seems like a net loss for Riot but ok.

So lets specify, what kind of power do they have? Do they command roster changes? Can they force results?


Holy fuck, like, seriously.
Read this at least. http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2013/12/19/4489797/the-falcao-factor-how-third-parties-gatecrash-footballs-transfer-

So fucking what. And I have even heard of football transfers where money of clubs was involved and where clubs had an influence about where a player goes.
Do you really not see it? You go from the obvious "agencies have an influence in football transfers" to the ridiculous "agencies are more powerful than clubs".
Off-season = best season
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 22 2014 17:28 GMT
#5979
Rule's not practically enforceable anyway, so if Alex really cares enough he'll restructure his organization in a way which he still controls the teams.

China already proved 2 years ago that it's completely impossible to enforce one-team-per-organization in ONE region. Riot acting like they can enforce it across EVERY region is an obvious bluff.
Moderator
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 22 2014 18:50 GMT
#5980
I don't even mean to imply I care about the 1 team rule, im just annoyed because the new rule does nothing to gga but it does harm league's own branding

Its just a really weird/dumb choice
Carrilord has arrived.
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