NaNiwa not invited to Code S - Page 259

On December 15 2011 03:25 TaKemE wrote:


But where do you get the idea that he was payed $850 to play 4 games? thats money he won by makeing it into the tournament.

On December 14 2011 18:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I love Mr. Chae.

Good job for having standards.

On December 15 2011 03:23 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Yeah I'm pretty disappointed about this. I don't see the difference between what Nani did and what people do when they sixpool/cheese just to get the games out of the way. Neither matches are entertaining. At least Nani had the balls to say that he wasn't going to waste anyone's time.

Yeah, pretty upset over this choice, tbh

On December 15 2011 03:25 TaKemE wrote:


But where do you get the idea that he was payed $850 to play 4 games? thats money he won by makeing it into the tournament.

On December 15 2011 03:26 N1ghtshade wrote:
When in Rome, act as the Romans do.

On December 15 2011 03:15 LanTAs wrote:
The GSL is a complete joke. He did nothing wrong within the rules, and they revoke his well earned Code S seed for no reason? Idra and Sen didn't even place as well as Nani did at past MLG's, maybe its the korean mentality about things and they don't feel like Nani deserves it because of his manners?

Screw it, i'm just not going to watch GSL for a few years in protest of it.

On December 15 2011 03:27 paulinepain wrote:
Saying that it was a wrong behavior because people are expecting good shows and paying for it is irrelevant, you can go watch football in a stadium, players aren't forced to make you happy by putting a good show, they play the way they want nobody is forcing you to watch them and as a player nobody is forcing you to win if you don't want to. Now this behavior was harsh and disrespectful towards Nestea.

Now GOMTV decision is for me wrong because they acted like they actually had rules against this type of situation, which they hadn't, therefore they should have made a public statement and then publish their new policies and ask Naniwa to make a public apology. I think this procedure would have been more professional for a scene that is actually new.

On December 15 2011 03:15 ffdestiny wrote:
This is the problem with honesty in today's climate; you can't be honest because people expect a player to have a silent handbook of code and ethics because after all, "OMG I"M A FAN!!!" or "IT'S HIS JOB, GUYS LOOK IT'S A JOB, A JOB I TELL YOU!!!" Naniwa's actions don't justify anything, and the game was merely inconsequential. I'd rather watch him act honest about the situation than throw it away subversively like Nestea did at Blizzcon.

He's not very articulate about what to do in a business sense (and I like that quality of him going against the grain), but he does realize the politics and apologizes when he felt fans were/are upset. Yet, as a community all we do is piss on him for being the person he is, but treat Day9 as a "fuckable puppet" as per last night's SoTG. So the justification is that it's fine for Day9 to "act the way he does" as long as it agrees with the hive mentality. Even Idra can't take the shit most of the time... I can't believe how many people hate him one day, and love him another just for him not putting on a show or acting out of character. It's all hopping on the bandwagon and little thinking--Nani is caught in the middle.

On December 15 2011 03:22 s3rp wrote:


Nobody in their right mind can argue that he actually played that game.

On December 15 2011 03:26 diophan wrote:


So when I sign an agreement to do research for a year at my university I can sit there doing nothing and I'm fulfilling my agreement?

On December 15 2011 03:23 Lazarusnpx wrote:
So, can anyone explain me what exacly were the grounds for baning him, in a logical way? i mean, it seems to be because the "rule" he broke is based on opinion, rather then facts, and that just seems like a bad way to manage stuff, if hypothetically, a group of people just goes and says that they found naniwa tactic very entertaining does the argument still hold? even more, why is everyone saying we need to understand koreans, and they dont need to understand foreigner people? are we the only ones interested in building a community with them? must we hold their principles in every interaction we have with them while they wont hold regard for others? maybe to naniwa principles it was insulting to him that he was forced to play a pit match from where he could only lose, and yes, he is paid to put up a show, but isn't GSL interested in what he has to offer? he is not a simple officer employ, he has a set of skills wich destinguish him, is that so far off that people cant even consider that and i'm just completly crazy?
and is just simply droping the hammer a good way to handle things like this? it seems a rather destructive way, and yes, many agree with this decision and say good ridance to thos who dont, but shouldnt we all be working together to grow esports instead of keeping ourselves in our confortable bubble?
it seems to me that GSL does a good job in alot of stuff, managing themselves and the players doesn't seem to be one, but well, maybe i'm just dumb

On December 15 2011 03:26 N1ghtshade wrote:
When in Rome, act as the Romans do.

On December 15 2011 03:27 Vardant wrote:

He was in a position that has never happened before, at least not in the GSL. Everywhere else he played, you could forfeit games and that's what he did.

On December 15 2011 03:25 sitromit wrote:


So? All of those players you list have dropped games to Code B players or even foreigners at one point or another. Does that mean everyone they lost to once deserves a Code S spot? Naniwa already got 3 Code A seeds, got knocked out 3 times with 0-2 score in the first round. So far his performance at the GSL has ben abysmal and shown no indication that he deserves to be there.