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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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crowbar
Sweden21 Posts
thank you gom. And to add this is what i think naniwa was thinking: Naniwa wouldnt even be able to bring an entertaining match. His mind was set on forfeit before the match and he forfeited. He saw that the match would not help him towards his goals in any way so he ignored the match and set his mind on the next challenge. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:38 semm wrote: You can really tell how many young people there are in this thread. For the ones saying 'He didn't break any of the official rules!' Listen up: Naniwa is a professional gamer, being in tournaments like the GSL is his JOB. For those of you who have never had a real job let me give you a tip: if you go around disrespecting the business's customers, not showing up for the work and generally having a bad attitude, then when you get called into the boss's office say 'I don't see any rules I broke in the employee handbook!' you will be laughed out of the building and you will get fired I assure you. The ban is completely in keeping with any type of pro-gaming scene that wants to be professional in the least. well said it blows my mind that the argument is basically "he should be allowed to ignore what he said he would do and throw it in the face of everyone watching if he doesn't want to play" 'wah mommy I don't wanna!!!!' grow up | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50963 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:38 Zidane wrote: Owned pretty hard. His life was MLG and GSL, now GSL is out, what will he do? hes banned for one GSL season. | ||
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zanga
659 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:39 Banj0 wrote: sorry if this has already been answered further back in the thread.. Is there an official statement from GOM anywhere to read? if so, he OP needs to be updated. Official statement? I think you're aksing too much of GOM Just let Mr Chae spew out random thoughts on twitter instead and insult whoever he wishes......... BAH | ||
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discw
United States122 Posts
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0800
United States11 Posts
In the meanwhile I just want to say I am extremely sorry to hear what GOMTV has decided to do and that after being a super loyal customer ( I purchased every single season as premium ticket ) I will stop buying GSL tickets and watching GOMTV all together after the BlizzardCUP is over. This behavior is absolutely unacceptable and the "rule" seems to be applied completely randomly. Also, how on earth can Choya say "I can't believe that bastard is a progamer" when he was ladder cheating few seasons ago ? I think what he has done is way worse than Naniwa's game. If there is one thing that I hate is people being not coherent and GOMTV has just proofed right here right now how not coherent they are. I can't even express how unprofessional their behavior has been and I will be a sad fan because I do love watching Tastless and Artosis casting games. I guess this is a good occasion to be a premium supporter of MLG, they have done great and I still want to support esports but I am done with GOM. | ||
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pookadin
Australia422 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:38 Psychobabas wrote: So, can I ask for a refund from GOM or what. So you buy GSL ticket for a player like naniwa? What do you do when he gets kicked out after round 32 every tourney? You just dont watch for 4 weeks? Sounds like a stupid move anyway... | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:39 baoluvboa wrote: You're an idiot if you think this is a race issue. A korean would have been punished just as much, if not more. They are forcing Korean moral standards upon a foreign player in an international tournament. | ||
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spacecoke
Sweden112 Posts
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jyisvip
Canada209 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:39 -y0shi- wrote: If that would be true, then there is no punishment to begin with, right? Im calling bs here.. The punishment is the restriction on receiving the code s obviously.. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:40 crowbar wrote: good now i dont have to pay for GSL thank you gom. And to add this is what i think naniwa was thinking: Naniwa wouldnt even be able to bring an entertaining match. His mind was set on forfeit before the match and he forfeited. He saw that the match would not help him towards his goals in any way so he ignored the match and set his mind on the next challenge. that extra 15 minutes really made a huge difference in dealing with the next challenge I'm sure | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50963 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:40 pookadin wrote: So you buy GSL ticket for a player like naniwa? What do you do when he gets kicked out after round 32 every tourney? You just dont watch for 4 weeks? Sounds like a stupid move anyway... code S is 8 weeks now. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:38 LunaSea wrote: GOM should be ashamed of tehir behaviour ! In my perspective GOM is only trying to prevent another foreigner to win korean tournaments ! We should ban some Koreans from MLG / Dreamhack too. yup lets just ban koreans from na and european tournaments that will make sc2 tournaments fun | ||
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jiberish
80 Posts
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Bart
494 Posts
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:38 Biane wrote: If the ceremony involves stripping to their boxers, dancing half naked, running into the sea, throwing ice cream sticks into the audience, maybe, eventually thats was under KESPA too and nothing was done. If i thumbs down you and boo you and your team many people will feel insulted right? you train so hard but lose aand still get BM... Should this be banned as it is abusive? | ||
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venage
Sweden65 Posts
Imho this shows that naniwa is on the same level as idra when it comes to mental state and he really needs to change it up if he wants to be the best. The best never gives up and always shows his best and if things don't turn up the way he expected he would try to end on a strong note. The best player don't need to walk the championship road in order to challenge himself. The best player is the player who takes losses hard cause WINNING is so important. He doesn't want to be number one, he only wants to WIN. Too many players have the mentality of being number one instead of winning when its the later that will make you number one. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:36 boxturtle wrote: Completely justified. If he can't show respect for the money fans paid to see these matches, in the format they were set out, he doesn't deserve his invited spot. I always stayed up late to watch GSL, but that will now change. The anti-GOM reactions have prompted me to show my support by buying a ticket. This was a player's blatant disregard and complete flouting for the rules coming back to bite him in the butt. Nothing more, nothing less. It's also absurd that the format should be "bad" now, and no one pointed this out before. If someone had pointed this out, people probably would have found a justification for this format such as "hey these are the best players in the world and GOM's going to give us more matches, including the Naniwa v Nestea centerpiece." The people using sports comparisons to support Nani are way off base. If you paid money for a season ticket and watched a game where a team sat down on the field because the match "didn't matter" would you think it was "funny?" If anyone thinks that refusing to buy a GSL ticket because of this action alone will help them prove a point, they can try thinking about what would happen if they did nothing and showed that any match, any anticipated event, could be flouted by an angry player in a bad condition. Athletes don't do this, and if E-sports is going to be anything but a fetish-y footnote in the internet age section of a history book, actions like this are necessary. I have a feeling that no one that's supporting Nani right now actually bought a ticket. I hope Mr. Chae reads this (I know he has posted on these forums before) and understands that some people support him, with our wallets as well as our words. Great first post!  I agree with the sentiment, in fact, there are very few forum veterans that seem to be posting in favour of Nani, and that's probably because people that actually compete in tournaments know they themselves wouldn't act like Naniwa did. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:39 mcc wrote: You are mixing something that is illegal with some arbitrary and inconsistently enforced rule. If GOM punished all disrespectful behavior then OK, it would be stupid , but at least they would not be hypocrites. But of course their tournament and they can do what they want, and I will do what I want and never watch or pay for any GOM product, it is easy as that. Idra didn't forfeit his matches in the GSL, he forfeited them in some other tournament. None of Gom's business. Naniwa did it in the GSL, Gom's business. | ||
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jojo311
Australia903 Posts
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