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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
December 14 2011 12:43 GMT
#2421
Welcome to e"sports", we dont throw games. It wont be accepted.

I dont mind this, dunno if its cause of this episode, or if naniwa just had it coming after several awkward outcries <.<

Remember chill get out?
The MLG joke tournament?
The lack of gg in gsl vs fxo.lucky -> even though this is seen as mandetory
and now this.

u might disagree, but something had to be done. if nothing else this might inspire naniwa to learn a bit of "politics".
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 14 2011 12:43 GMT
#2422
On December 14 2011 21:42 Biane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:39 zanga wrote:
Nani said yesterday

"I am really sorry", also writing "sry" (literally, and more) on his twitter.

Mr. Chae responds by calling naniwa offensive things - very mature yeah?

gg Gomtv, hope we never meet again -_-


He was sorry?

+ Show Spoiler +

"i really practiced my 7 probe rush. i should have won that game ez!"
"neither of us had anything at stake and wouldnt play our best. sorry fans that expected more"
He may have said sorry, but the former statement and the context of the sorry in the latter statement aren't very indicative of it.


colnaniwa is a fake twitter-_-

His twitter is quanticnani
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
December 14 2011 12:43 GMT
#2423
On December 14 2011 21:41 Hopelessnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:38 Biane wrote:
On December 14 2011 21:35 Hopelessnoob wrote:
next time all ceremonies will be banned too. This is disrespectful to all of the teammates of the person being BM and his family. This is abusive and should be banned.


If the ceremony involves stripping to their boxers, dancing half naked, running into the sea, throwing ice cream sticks into the audience, maybe, eventually

thats was under KESPA too and nothing was done.

If i thumbs down you and boo you and your team many people will feel insulted right? you train so hard but lose aand still get BM... Should this be banned as it is abusive?

No, but you'd get the hate of alot of Nestea fans (who's very popular and respected)
ACiDCaT
Profile Joined October 2011
Moldova3 Posts
December 14 2011 12:43 GMT
#2424
If this is supposed to be proffesional sports, then the ban is absolutely correct!
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3750 Posts
December 14 2011 12:43 GMT
#2425
On December 14 2011 21:42 Vari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:40 Zandar wrote:
On December 14 2011 21:39 baoluvboa wrote:
You're an idiot if you think this is a race issue. A korean would have been punished just as much, if not more.


They are forcing Korean moral standards upon a foreign player in an international tournament.

it's the rules of the tournament

Show this rule, please.
Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
December 14 2011 12:43 GMT
#2426
On December 14 2011 21:40 Vari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:38 semm wrote:
You can really tell how many young people there are in this thread. For the ones saying 'He didn't break any of the official rules!' Listen up: Naniwa is a professional gamer, being in tournaments like the GSL is his JOB. For those of you who have never had a real job let me give you a tip: if you go around disrespecting the business's customers, not showing up for the work and generally having a bad attitude, then when you get called into the boss's office say 'I don't see any rules I broke in the employee handbook!' you will be laughed out of the building and you will get fired I assure you. The ban is completely in keeping with any type of pro-gaming scene that wants to be professional in the least.


well said

it blows my mind that the argument is basically "he should be allowed to ignore what he said he would do and throw it in the face of everyone watching if he doesn't want to play"

'wah mommy I don't wanna!!!!'

grow up


This is obnoxious to me. It's the NFL teams job to play games, when it comes down to borderline playoff time NFL teams will take off their 1st string players and place in their 3rd, effectively forfeiting their chances at any serious game (assuming they have won their playoff spot) because their 3rd strings are that much worse than their 1st string. It's exactly what naniwa did, stop being narrow minded.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2427
On December 14 2011 21:42 Exil wrote:
lol, why? match for nothing, so what the point to play it. In ma opinion naniwa had right to play it like that

for the people who were watching

because he was paid to play in the tourney and he knew he was playing 4 1v1 games

to prove he is better than nestea, show his abilities in korea after a series of disappointing gsl appearances and an 0-3 day to that point.

Stroke Me Lady Fame
kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2428
On December 14 2011 21:37 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:34 Losthorn wrote:
This would have gotten a similar reaction in any professional sport so I cant see where all the crying is coming from....


Soccer teams don't field their A team in non important matches. Don't pretend you know something about all the sports in the world son.

(Actually other teams pay them to "give their best" in non important matches when the "other" team thinks that the team without motivation to win will be good for them.)


Soccer teams dont line up their A-team, but still play and give a chance to lower level players to show off. Its not at all the same as throwing the game like naniwa did, no micro and all. Nani should have done a standard build and at least see if it was winnable, if not, then gg. But what he shouldnt have done, and will pay for it, is laugh at the organization.
ander
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada403 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2429
On December 14 2011 21:40 Vari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:38 semm wrote:
You can really tell how many young people there are in this thread. For the ones saying 'He didn't break any of the official rules!' Listen up: Naniwa is a professional gamer, being in tournaments like the GSL is his JOB. For those of you who have never had a real job let me give you a tip: if you go around disrespecting the business's customers, not showing up for the work and generally having a bad attitude, then when you get called into the boss's office say 'I don't see any rules I broke in the employee handbook!' you will be laughed out of the building and you will get fired I assure you. The ban is completely in keeping with any type of pro-gaming scene that wants to be professional in the least.


well said

it blows my mind that the argument is basically "he should be allowed to ignore what he said he would do and throw it in the face of everyone watching if he doesn't want to play"

'wah mommy I don't wanna!!!!'

grow up


ROFL. He isn't employed by Gom. He DID what he did and said he would do; there was a winner and there was a loser, and there is a replay and a vod to prove it. All he did was pull his workers.

You can't be fucking serious.
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2430
On December 14 2011 21:42 rblstr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:38 luke3920 wrote:
Does GOM really want to suggest its okay for players to "give up" whenever they cannot progress in a tournament? No.


Why should they have to play at all after they've already lost?


Because some people might still want to see them play a game? Some who want it enough to complain?
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2431
coLNaniwa its ok...



Live and Let Die!
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 12:44:57
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2432
On December 14 2011 21:42 NGrNecris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:38 Biane wrote:
On December 14 2011 21:35 Hopelessnoob wrote:
next time all ceremonies will be banned too. This is disrespectful to all of the teammates of the person being BM and his family. This is abusive and should be banned.


If the ceremony involves stripping to their boxers, dancing half naked, running into the sea, throwing ice cream sticks into the audience, maybe, eventually

But where do we draw the line? How do we even decide if someone is doing something abusive and disrespectful? Its really subjective

thats the whole point. GOM is not clarifying and i am sure NaNi like many of us assumed it is okay. So now will people dare to 6 pool? if they are in tilt can they cheese and lose? is it abusive?
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2433
People need to stop saying "Naniwa earned Code S spot."

No he did not.

MLG Providence had no Code S seed. In case you didn't notice, there weren't GSL invites or Code A seeds either.
I know some casters were saying thing like that, which is why many people are confused.

He was, however, going be one of 2 foreigners invited for Code S.

Now, GOM has 'uninvited' him.

As it stands, Naniwa can still qualify for Code A like everyone else (*cough* Jinro *cough*)
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2434
On December 14 2011 21:43 ACiDCaT wrote:
If this is supposed to be proffesional sports, then the ban is absolutely correct!


But Idra in code S is incorrect.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2435
On December 14 2011 21:40 pookadin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:38 Psychobabas wrote:
So, can I ask for a refund from GOM or what.


So you buy GSL ticket for a player like naniwa? What do you do when he gets kicked out after round 32 every tourney? You just dont watch for 4 weeks? Sounds like a stupid move anyway...


Not really, it's just my way of retaliating against GOM by asking for my money back, which I will fully pursue. Of course I would watch all players but in this case, I'll just stick to the free-stream. GOM was wrong and I will ask for a full refund, which should be done due to consumer rights etc etc We shall see.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2436
People are raging because Naniwa is a foreigner. If he was Korean, we certainly wouldn't have multiple threads over it let alone one thread with over 100 pages in less than a few hours.
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2437
On December 14 2011 21:41 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:38 LunaSea wrote:
GOM should be ashamed of tehir behaviour !

In my perspective GOM is only trying to prevent another foreigner to win korean tournaments !

We should ban some Koreans from MLG / Dreamhack too.

yup
lets just ban koreans from na and european tournaments

that will make sc2 tournaments fun


Moreover the comment is perhaps the most retarded I've ever seen and that's saying a lot. GOM is going to great lengths to get foreigners like Naniwa there. And Naniwa's record in Korea is quite possibly the worst ever. It's like what is this, I don't even...
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2438
I really don't think this is an appropriate course of action. I'm 100% on Naniwa's side here. If he does a 4gate all in that takes 5 more minutes the situation is completely fine. :\
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2439
On December 14 2011 21:39 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:35 Hier wrote:
Prize-hunter is a fitting image for Naniwa at this point; as soon as he wasn't eligible for higher prize money he gave up and threw the game, without considering the fact that there are up to a hundred thousand people that really wanted to see that game.


Agreed. And Naniwa is, to be frank, infamous for bullshit. If he had a clean track record prior to this, he would have probably been let off with a stern warning. This guy just doesn't learn. You could do anything, literally, anything except throw the game in such an obvious manner, and yet he chose to do so.

You could claim illness. You could cite exhaustion, very sorry to all fans who wanted to see the game, it didn't matter much anyway. You could 4 gate. But no, he had to have a brain fart.

So you prefer dishonesty and pretend over stupid but honest behaviour ? Good for you
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#2440

On December 14 2011 21:38 semm wrote:
You can really tell how many young people there are in this thread. For the ones saying 'He didn't break any of the official rules!' Listen up: Naniwa is a professional gamer, being in tournaments like the GSL is his JOB. For those of you who have never had a real job let me give you a tip: if you go around disrespecting the business's customers, not showing up for the work and generally having a bad attitude, then when you get called into the boss's office say 'I don't see any rules I broke in the employee handbook!' you will be laughed out of the building and you will get fired I assure you. The ban is completely in keeping with any type of pro-gaming scene that wants to be professional in the least.



Right off the bat you deem everyone who don't exactly agrees with you "young and never had a job". Very mature.

PS : LiquidJinro has a job, cooler than yours.
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