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You're aware of course that KGB is no more (it was disbanded in 1991 I believe)? Now there's FSB in it's place, but it doesn't have any kind of 'special force' per se. They're using Spetsnaz Alfa group for their actions and they're not very good. Part of what makes modern SF units so good is the tactics they employ. This is not an example of proper tactics for this kinds of units. There are more examples of course (Beslan school massacre), why the hell would you send your special forces to just brute force the problem?
What is the Most Elite Special Forces Unit? - Page 10
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Manit0u
Poland17720 Posts
You're aware of course that KGB is no more (it was disbanded in 1991 I believe)? Now there's FSB in it's place, but it doesn't have any kind of 'special force' per se. They're using Spetsnaz Alfa group for their actions and they're not very good. Part of what makes modern SF units so good is the tactics they employ. This is not an example of proper tactics for this kinds of units. There are more examples of course (Beslan school massacre), why the hell would you send your special forces to just brute force the problem? | ||
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Discerpo
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
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TeH_CaRnAg3
United States239 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On November 28 2011 00:49 hitthat wrote: Ok, I said that it can be propaganda. But are you pretty sure that totalitarian army used to fight asimethric war will not try rise the hightly loyal, trained soldiers that can be in pair with western counterparts? (in everything but equipment?) I am not... How would they possibly be equall to western soldiers? Do you honestly think that the people writing and analyzing tons of war data, and got their jobs by being the best of their class, lose out to a bunch of NK brainwashed freaks that got to be "grand glorious eternal general of the eternal army of socialist glory" because his dad had the title before him? There is more to war then being able to walk over glass... It's the same reason those Spetnaz video's are fun but they show exactly why the fuck that training sucked balls. A soldier doesn't need to be able to have a concrete block broken on his stomach. He needs to be able to understand in the field tactics. It doesn't really matter how many shovels they can take to the stomach when the other team flanks you and proceeds to slowly but surely bleed your team to death. I can't believe anyone seriously buys into North-Korean propaganda. | ||
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Lumin
United States217 Posts
2. Navy Seals No one else in the world comes close. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Didn't they do an episode on the various elite soldiers on that SpikeTV show? The ultimate warriors or some shit. Forget who won it, but I think it was a tie between 2. ._. On November 28 2011 01:16 IntoTheBush wrote: If none of you know who the BOPE are from Brazil I highly suggest you watch "Tropa De Elite." It's a softer story of the how the BOPE operates in Rio. Love the BOPE; love their training program too. Those movies didn't really do justice to their regime though as you said. | ||
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Stress
United States980 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
EDIT: changed my wording, sounded stupid | ||
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Eisregen
Germany967 Posts
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Cush
United States646 Posts
On November 28 2011 02:13 Lumin wrote: 1. SAS 2. Navy Seals No one else in the world comes close. Are you kidding me? Israeli Commandos by far destroys everyone here, not even close. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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Grettin
42384 Posts
On November 28 2011 02:27 Cush wrote: Are you kidding me? Israeli Commandos by far destroys everyone here, not even close. It's pointless to argue. Everyone is biased as fuck and since we don't know jack shit about other forces, it's easy to call out something that is more known. | ||
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Cush
United States646 Posts
On November 28 2011 02:29 Grettin wrote: It's pointless to argue. Everyone is biased as fuck and since we don't know jack shit about other forces, it's easy to call out something that is more known. The only thing I know about the commandos is that they have the highest motivation for any special forces in the world. Which makes them the best. | ||
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Fitz
Canada77 Posts
I know a couple of you pointed them out already but one veteran from that unit actualy wrote a book about it. He been blackmailed into not publishing it ( he's also a pedo, apparently all of these people are marked for life afterward ). It's in the french but the guy is an absolute bad ass. ( he singleandedly killed 27 terrorist during an ambush... He was the one who was behing ambushed). tis book srsly relate absolute terrible war stories. it has incredible sociological/political/psychological value. Link to said book : http://www.renaud-bray.com/Livres_Produit.aspx?id=929196&def=Nous étions invincibles,MORISSET, DENIS,COULOMBE, CLAUDE,9782894313855 | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8058 Posts
On November 28 2011 02:28 DeepElemBlues wrote: You put a platoon of any 2 of these units against each and they'll either wipe each other out or one will make the tiniest mistake and get steamrolled. All these special forces are pretty much equal in equipment and training. They are not even trained or supposed to be put in front of each other. The question is dumb. A good special force unit is a force unit that can carry delicate opp very cleanly, without collateral damages and losses. We know nothing about which one is the "best", whatever than means. | ||
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TotalBalanceSC2
Canada475 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17720 Posts
On November 28 2011 02:16 Stress wrote: On the other hand, I have seen footage of how the Spetsnaz train and it is insane. I also like how they handle their business(see Moscow theater hostage crisis). How can you like that? This action was complete failure, just like the Beslan action and many more conducted by Spetsnaz. | ||
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UniquE.
Canada143 Posts
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Lumin
United States217 Posts
So funny. | ||
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