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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 16:54:33
November 27 2011 16:52 GMT
#181
On November 28 2011 01:29 Wrath 2.1 wrote:
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On November 27 2011 17:59 actionbastrd wrote:
On November 27 2011 17:37 Diamond wrote:
I don't know who is the most badass but the Russian Spetznaz for sure have the most gangster training.

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Source

Edit: Nevermind, guess they don't exist anymore, but those images are still awesome.



They dont? Then what are the Russian special forces now adays? For some reason i still think they exist. I watched an episode of that deadliest warrior show where they had an ex-spetznaz person on there and it showed some of the shit they got put through during training. It is intense. Those guys are insanely hardened.

Whats the source on them no longer existing O.o But for real, i would never want to go toe to toe with someone that has that training. They are trained to be immune to pain, crazy stuff.


kgb obviously


You're aware of course that KGB is no more (it was disbanded in 1991 I believe)? Now there's FSB in it's place, but it doesn't have any kind of 'special force' per se. They're using Spetsnaz Alfa group for their actions and they're not very good. Part of what makes modern SF units so good is the tactics they employ. This is not an example of proper tactics for this kinds of units. There are more examples of course (Beslan school massacre), why the hell would you send your special forces to just brute force the problem?
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Discerpo
Profile Joined July 2010
263 Posts
November 27 2011 16:59 GMT
#182
SAS for sure, just search for Operation Nimrod. There is some amazing footage from the 80s, with incredibly 'proper' British accents to go alongside it.

butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
November 27 2011 17:03 GMT
#183
KSK!
TeH_CaRnAg3
Profile Joined March 2010
United States239 Posts
November 27 2011 17:06 GMT
#184
I work with a lot of military guys. 1 colonel, a few sargents and some others. 1 of which has trained around the world with different special forces units, Israel commando, british sas and a lot of others he mentioned. They all agree that the navy seals are the best in the world. There training is ridiculous. He told me a story about some seals going into a terrorist camp and a 5 man team killed 50 of them without being seen and all got out alive. Same kinda guys who got osama I would assume.
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 27 2011 17:13 GMT
#185
On November 28 2011 00:49 hitthat wrote:
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On November 28 2011 00:34 FraCuS wrote:
On November 28 2011 00:11 hitthat wrote:
Its imposible to say. Do we f.e. know how much propaganda is in that what we saw and how much is a fact? What about top secret units used only for suicidal missions?

And what do we know about elite units in f.e. North Korea?


shit's fake.

a women chopping a glass bottle in half....haha


Ok, I said that it can be propaganda.
But are you pretty sure that totalitarian army used to fight asimethric war will not try rise the hightly loyal, trained soldiers that can be in pair with western counterparts? (in everything but equipment?)

I am not...


How would they possibly be equall to western soldiers?

Do you honestly think that the people writing and analyzing tons of war data, and got their jobs by being the best of their class, lose out to a bunch of NK brainwashed freaks that got to be "grand glorious eternal general of the eternal army of socialist glory" because his dad had the title before him?

There is more to war then being able to walk over glass...

It's the same reason those Spetnaz video's are fun but they show exactly why the fuck that training sucked balls. A soldier doesn't need to be able to have a concrete block broken on his stomach. He needs to be able to understand in the field tactics.

It doesn't really matter how many shovels they can take to the stomach when the other team flanks you and proceeds to slowly but surely bleed your team to death.


I can't believe anyone seriously buys into North-Korean propaganda.
Lumin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States217 Posts
November 27 2011 17:13 GMT
#186
1. SAS
2. Navy Seals

No one else in the world comes close.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 17:18:37
November 27 2011 17:15 GMT
#187
This topic has popped up a few times. Anyway, it's all going to be biased opinions anyway. -.-

Didn't they do an episode on the various elite soldiers on that SpikeTV show? The ultimate warriors or some shit.

Forget who won it, but I think it was a tie between 2. ._.

On November 28 2011 01:16 IntoTheBush wrote:
If none of you know who the BOPE are from Brazil I highly suggest you watch "Tropa De Elite." It's a softer story of the how the BOPE operates in Rio.


Love the BOPE; love their training program too. Those movies didn't really do justice to their regime though as you said.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
November 27 2011 17:16 GMT
#188
As a person from the USA I'm inclined to lean towards Seal Team 6 because they use hand picked members from all the other Seal Teams. On the other hand, I have seen footage of how the Spetsnaz train and it is insane. I also like how they handle their business(see Moscow theater hostage crisis).
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 07:09:28
November 27 2011 17:24 GMT
#189
I'm from the USA and yes the SEALs are very, very good. However, the most elite unit is not the SEALs, but the Israeli paratroopers brigade. The paratroopers are most likely the highest and most strictly trained forces in the world. The BOPE may go into the favela's but the paratroopers literally drop from the sky into terrorist strongholds etc. They literally drop from the sky and the battle is over. The SEALs are good, but these guys are just a bit better.
EDIT: changed my wording, sounded stupid
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Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
November 27 2011 17:25 GMT
#190
Oh and I want to add: Dont always believe what military personnel tells you! Often those stories or facts arent coreect or completely garbage! =)
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Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
November 27 2011 17:27 GMT
#191
On November 28 2011 02:13 Lumin wrote:
1. SAS
2. Navy Seals

No one else in the world comes close.

Are you kidding me?

Israeli Commandos by far destroys everyone here, not even close.
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
November 27 2011 17:28 GMT
#192
You put a platoon of any 2 of these units against each and they'll either wipe each other out or one will make the tiniest mistake and get steamrolled. All these special forces are pretty much equal in equipment and training.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
November 27 2011 17:29 GMT
#193
On November 28 2011 02:27 Cush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 02:13 Lumin wrote:
1. SAS
2. Navy Seals

No one else in the world comes close.

Are you kidding me?

Israeli Commandos by far destroys everyone here, not even close.


It's pointless to argue. Everyone is biased as fuck and since we don't know jack shit about other forces, it's easy to call out something that is more known.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 17:32:32
November 27 2011 17:32 GMT
#194
On November 28 2011 02:29 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 02:27 Cush wrote:
On November 28 2011 02:13 Lumin wrote:
1. SAS
2. Navy Seals

No one else in the world comes close.

Are you kidding me?

Israeli Commandos by far destroys everyone here, not even close.


It's pointless to argue. Everyone is biased as fuck and since we don't know jack shit about other forces, it's easy to call out something that is more known.

The only thing I know about the commandos is that they have the highest motivation for any special forces in the world.

Which makes them the best.
"That's not your main base Stardust.....Stardust.....that's not your main" Sayle
Fitz
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada77 Posts
November 27 2011 17:34 GMT
#195
JTF2 From canada is one of the ultimate special force unit in the world

I know a couple of you pointed them out already but one veteran from that unit actualy wrote a book about it.

He been blackmailed into not publishing it ( he's also a pedo, apparently all of these people are marked for life afterward ).

It's in the french but the guy is an absolute bad ass. ( he singleandedly killed 27 terrorist during an ambush... He was the one who was behing ambushed).

tis book srsly relate absolute terrible war stories. it has incredible sociological/political/psychological value.

Link to said book : http://www.renaud-bray.com/Livres_Produit.aspx?id=929196&def=Nous étions invincibles,MORISSET, DENIS,COULOMBE, CLAUDE,9782894313855
lol
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8056 Posts
November 27 2011 17:37 GMT
#196
On November 28 2011 02:28 DeepElemBlues wrote:
You put a platoon of any 2 of these units against each and they'll either wipe each other out or one will make the tiniest mistake and get steamrolled. All these special forces are pretty much equal in equipment and training.

They are not even trained or supposed to be put in front of each other.

The question is dumb. A good special force unit is a force unit that can carry delicate opp very cleanly, without collateral damages and losses. We know nothing about which one is the "best", whatever than means.
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TotalBalanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada475 Posts
November 27 2011 17:40 GMT
#197
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17719 Posts
November 27 2011 17:46 GMT
#198
On November 28 2011 02:16 Stress wrote:
On the other hand, I have seen footage of how the Spetsnaz train and it is insane. I also like how they handle their business(see Moscow theater hostage crisis).


How can you like that? This action was complete failure, just like the Beslan action and many more conducted by Spetsnaz.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
UniquE.
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada143 Posts
November 27 2011 17:48 GMT
#199
Ive worked along side both JTF 2 and some smaller Navy Seals units.... Ive been in the canadian Infantry for over 8 years and from what I was told the craziest Forces as by training wise and work ethic was and will always be the Gurkas they are bad ass dudes
Lumin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States217 Posts
November 27 2011 17:49 GMT
#200
Israeli Commandos HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


So funny.
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