Patch 1.4 PTR Notes (updated 9/8) - Page 354

On September 10 2011 08:10 Philip2110 wrote:


Double the dps, yes the total damage is the same but the dps isnt and thats what matters

On September 10 2011 08:23 Staboteur wrote:
COLOSSSUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS D:

To be a billion percent fair, my control was far too shitty for me to ever actually successfully neural parasite a bunch of colossus without just losing all my shit, but I liked to think I at least had the option. Also, this (if it goes through) is likely to shift the metagame back to MOAR COLOSSUS at my level, which sucks total nuts. Well, back to sub-40% win vs protoss again, I guess!

This patch will suck for me, because tall things that shoot lasers out of their eyes fucking burn holes in my sphincter every time, but overall it'll be interesting to see how these potential changes (lol @ NP + immortal range buff) change ZvP. ZvP is clearly now in a bad place for Protoss (I mean, even -I- am above 50% wins!) and it'll be neat to see the matchup come back to a more watchable, less irritating state... assuming you like things that shoot lasers, of course.

On September 10 2011 08:23 Lomak wrote:
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, I don't see PTR helping at all. The NA scene has very few players that are playing the game at the level needed to determine the strength of units / comps / builds. Then you jump over to the EU and realize that there's like 2 zergs that are playing the game on a professional level (Dimaga , Morrow) and morrow has not been performing as well as we would expect.

That's assuming the top level players even get on that PTR to show the developers what the changes REALLY do. Which is a stretch in and of itself.

On September 10 2011 07:20 Lomak wrote:


The reaper was nerfed because blizzard realize there was absolutely nothing zerg units could do to defend against them.

Reapers were kiting and killing roaches and queens for fucks sakes, of course that should change. We don't see anything near that sort of domination with infestors on the professional level.

For the record I couldn't really care if they nerf terran / toss. What I really want from blizzard is a good hard look at all the zerg units / structures to evaluate just how shitty they are.

Hydra, Nydus (expensive version of a pylon). Our upgrades, Overlord speed, our scouting capabilities. Blizzard really needs a good hard look at zerg because the race IMO is just pathetic. If only because of how stagnant and predictable it is. There is no versatility in a race that has so few units, and even fewer units that are worth a shit.

On September 10 2011 08:23 Staboteur wrote:
COLOSSSUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS D:

To be a billion percent fair, my control was far too shitty for me to ever actually successfully neural parasite a bunch of colossus without just losing all my shit, but I liked to think I at least had the option. Also, this (if it goes through) is likely to shift the metagame back to MOAR COLOSSUS at my level, which sucks total nuts. Well, back to sub-40% win vs protoss again, I guess!

This patch will suck for me, because tall things that shoot lasers out of their eyes fucking burn holes in my sphincter every time, but overall it'll be interesting to see how these potential changes (lol @ NP + immortal range buff) change ZvP. ZvP is clearly now in a bad place for Protoss (I mean, even -I- am above 50% wins!) and it'll be neat to see the matchup come back to a more watchable, less irritating state... assuming you like things that shoot lasers, of course.

On September 10 2011 08:36 crms wrote:
why are people yelling for everyone to go test it on PTR. Newsflash, we already played the don't use infestor/NP patch, we played it live for 6 months when P Deathballs and 'Cruncher' style laughed at us.

On September 10 2011 08:34 Raid wrote:


I was just proving you wrong on how ridiculously one sided your looking at this. I guess its useless trying to convince you that blizzard is not out to get zerg. I have to say, I really believe zergs are favored in the ZvP matchup. ZvT is balanced. I really just think protoss is the true troubled race/underpowered because of how stupid the collosi has been. They need to scrap that unit and compensate all their other units.

On September 10 2011 08:41 Fig wrote:

I like the words you are typing. Hardly anyone can stand the colossus, toss players included, because it just doesn't reward micro at all. I can micro a colossus about as well as Huk, which is stupid. And the fact that it takes up the same role as the carrier is also a pain. Why are warp prisms just starting to catch on as toss? Because before the archon buff, toss was forced to make colossi. That meant vikings were made preemptively, which just so happen to counter drops, void rays, carriers, and motherships. One tech path effectively making another obsolete, in more ways than one.

On September 10 2011 08:25 ReignFayth wrote:
every protoss on europe gets demolished by stephano and morrow currently, and he abuses infestor like destiny, except his mechanic is probably much better

On September 10 2011 08:37 Doko wrote:
I'll take slow reavers over colossus any day. Nothing id enjoy seeing more in starcraft than 2 scarabs making their way to a bioball. 2 seconds later all that remains is a giant pool of blood

On September 10 2011 08:36 crms wrote:
why are people yelling for everyone to go test it on PTR. Newsflash, we already played the don't use infestor/NP patch, we played it live for 6 months when P Deathballs and 'Cruncher' style laughed at us.