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ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
October 05 2011 04:17 GMT
#501
^ that race profile page thing isn't really a glitch.

i used to play protoss a lot in custom games and i switched to T when i started laddering, my profile page still shows the protoss image. i think it just depends on what race you tend to pick in all games, not just ladder
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 05:54:17
October 05 2011 05:40 GMT
#502
[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name: Lone / RatZDeeZer
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/6T9Pgc
Description: Possible Map hacking and or production tab hacking.


I just finished looking at the replay several times. There are two major aspects that I find incriminating. The moment when he builds and cancels his pylon and builds it again to stop the zergling rush and the other time when he sent the stalkers to defend his mineral lines.

Honestly, I don't think that this is enough evidence because the first time, he may just be completing a wall-off and he decided to change his mind so he can later position a zealot there. Then when he saw the zerglings coming, he had to build a pylon.

As for the banshee, he might have anticipated it since he knows that his opponents are Z and T.

Honestly, I don't think this is enough to convict. Maybe he just has very good reaction skills. It is too likely that this is just a bunch of coincidence because coincidences are bound to happen once every so and so games. I don't think his case is strong enough.

As for the people who are using Lone's past bronze league as a justification, there could be several explanations. For one, he has 7000 games. That looks like he played 12 hours a day, nonstop, and gotten really good in a short amount of time. He had a relatively low APM but that could be due to the fact that his economy was hurt early on and he gave up or he didn't have much stuff to do.

All I'm saying is that this is not enough evidence. Coincidences do happen and you can't base strong conclusions off one game. Like they say in law, "if there is a shread of doubt, you cannot convict."


Coincidences are common in everyday life. You see it everyday in the court of law. Honestly, I'm surprised about how little evidence there is.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
October 05 2011 10:39 GMT
#503
Server: NA
My Name:Coramoor
Other Person name: Grandmaster
replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/13983
Description: 10 gates me in my natural on shattered temple, enough said

Fun conversation though if you've got nother better to do
Gnight
Profile Joined September 2011
77 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 16:00:32
October 05 2011 15:55 GMT
#504
On October 05 2011 19:39 Coramoor wrote:
Server: NA
My Name:Coramoor
Other Person name: Grandmaster
replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/13983
Description: 10 gates me in my natural on shattered temple, enough said

Fun conversation though if you've got nother better to do


Indeed a rather fun conversation. xD

Onto the game itself, or what is suppose to go for a game of SC2. >.<

- Right at the start of the game he sends a worker to the natural expansion of you without any knowledge of you being there, which can be of course a gamble on his side, but also a maphack.

- Moving on, without scouting with his probe he builds a pylon at your natural while repeatedly looking at your basis through the fog as if he's looking at what you are up too, which has no use in doing if you aren't using a maphack.

- Around the 1 minute mark you send out a scouting probe which he almost directly looks at through the fog as it goes down your ramp to scout the western base, he follows it for a bit through the fog till it's clear your scout is gone south and won't spot his proxy.

- After this there isn't much to say about wheter he hacked or not by his gameplay, though in the conversation he clearly put forth that he didn't consider using some sort of maphack program to be cheating in SC2. It's not a completely clear confession, but really close enough to it to take in serious consideration of him hacking or not.


All in all, he knew where you were right at the start of the game, this combined with the various looks through the fog of war at your base after the proxy pylon went down qualifies in my book as a maphack and not as a gamble on his side.
Further more, he clearly follows your scouting probe for a while, proving that he can see through the fog and isn't just gazing randomly at the darkness like it should be.
And on top of this comes his almost clear confession about using maphacks later in the game/conversation towards you.

That all put together = cheated in my book, though this is my first review of a replay with possible hacks, so don't count my opinion to heavy here. ^ ^
“Sleep is like the unicorn - it is rumored to exist, but I doubt I will see any”
.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 16:35:02
October 05 2011 16:27 GMT
#505
Server: US
Your Name: Sic
Hacker Name: Zelthcon
Zelthcon is a double hacker. There's strong evidence that he uses maphacks, and definite evidence that he uses a hack that messes with the client so that losses don't get reported.
replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/13967

I have a detailed post on it with analysis, pictures and replay:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272003#1
Clan MvP Member | http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3273340/SicMvP
JustTray
Profile Joined May 2011
127 Posts
October 05 2011 16:47 GMT
#506
On October 01 2011 06:27 Clouttt wrote:
The fact that after all this time you guys STILL haven't even put Lone and Deezer on the confirmed list lets me know with absolute certainty that this thread has absolutely no hope of performing any useful service on this forum, and will only continue to devolve as people that are obviously members of the hacking community continue to troll this thread into a massive pile of brain-numbingly retarded shit. You might as well close the thread.


Agreed.

You have high profile people like Protech, whose stream you advertise, calling out known hackers such as Sorcery, and now Lone, with definitive evidence (and an admission) and still both of these players are and have been active on bnet under these same names for the entire life of the game.

These trolls are kids who spend literally 100% of their life on this game and in this community working actively to game the system and cheat other players. There's a real opportunity to make a difference here and yet it's completely corrupted.

ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 18:02:53
October 05 2011 18:02 GMT
#507
On October 05 2011 14:40 aztrorisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name: Lone / RatZDeeZer
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/6T9Pgc
Description: Possible Map hacking and or production tab hacking.


I just finished looking at the replay several times. There are two major aspects that I find incriminating. The moment when he builds and cancels his pylon and builds it again to stop the zergling rush and the other time when he sent the stalkers to defend his mineral lines.

Honestly, I don't think that this is enough evidence because the first time, he may just be completing a wall-off and he decided to change his mind so he can later position a zealot there. Then when he saw the zerglings coming, he had to build a pylon.

As for the banshee, he might have anticipated it since he knows that his opponents are Z and T.

Honestly, I don't think this is enough to convict. Maybe he just has very good reaction skills. It is too likely that this is just a bunch of coincidence because coincidences are bound to happen once every so and so games. I don't think his case is strong enough.

As for the people who are using Lone's past bronze league as a justification, there could be several explanations. For one, he has 7000 games. That looks like he played 12 hours a day, nonstop, and gotten really good in a short amount of time. He had a relatively low APM but that could be due to the fact that his economy was hurt early on and he gave up or he didn't have much stuff to do.

All I'm saying is that this is not enough evidence. Coincidences do happen and you can't base strong conclusions off one game. Like they say in law, "if there is a shread of doubt, you cannot convict."


Coincidences are common in everyday life. You see it everyday in the court of law. Honestly, I'm surprised about how little evidence there is.


I think you missed the 2nd replay of Lone on the first page of this thread as well. He was put as non hacker cause it was the first replay of him and it seems like it COULD have been coincidence. Then, the 2nd replay came out. TBH, I think there is enough evidence to put him as hacker... but thats not my job.

On October 05 2011 12:52 Peanut Butter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 02:52 XRaDiiX wrote:
On September 26 2011 15:48 Itallion wrote:
On September 26 2011 15:09 Darjo wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:19 OxfordStarHat wrote:
This is not mind btw, I don't want to take credit, it was just on reddit.


Server US
hacker: Lone
http://i.imgur.com/w823D.png



I did a brief google search and this is what I found:

http://i.imgur.com/26Mom.png

Can't be considered "proof" by any means but the valiantchaos hack site post is pretty suspect.


And this proves what? Read what Probe wrote a few posts back, unless it's in the official format and a replay is included it doesn't mean anything :/



Uhm Lone is number #1 GM with 91%+ win Ratio and was in Bronze League last season.

[image loading]
The guys is obvious a Fucking Hacker.. he should be $^#%ing banned.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were actually friends with the guy the way you defend him


Currently he is number 12, moved up from 132nd in one week. I have no idea if this is a glitch or a side-effect of his hack if he is using one, but I noticed that it says on the GM page that his favorite race is Protoss and yet when you view his profile it says his most played race is Terran. I still have faith in Blizzard and I am assuming someone is checking him out.

P.S. For all the people who are complaining about people who you think should be banned, just remember that the moderators are taking it cautiously, as they do not want to ban an innocent person.



Thats cause he plays a lot of team games as terran, but his 1v1 race is protoss and since he played more teams than solos...
YueY.930
Profile Joined April 2011
United States18 Posts
October 05 2011 19:02 GMT
#508
On September 16 2011 12:31 Itallion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:55 J_D wrote:
Server: AM
Your Name: VoidPrism
Hacker Name: Bomi
Replay: http://drop.sc/34988
Description: Maphacking

Proxy 2-gates the correct location on Shakuras Plateau without ever scouting me or even spotting a scouting probe; he sends his probe to the correct location at the very start of the game. When his 2 gateways are building he also makes some semi-suspicious glances at my base that he has never scouted. What makes me unsure though is that with it being Shakuras, theres a 50% chance of getting the right location so maybe he was just willing to take the coinflip.


Just watched this replay, this is obvious.


Server: NA
Your Name:YueY cc 930
Hacker Name: Bomi
Replay: http://drop.sc/40935
Description: Yeah he did the same thing to me but on crypt so of course a 4 player map, I know this topic said proxying the right location shouldn't be used as evidence but I figured since somebody already posted about this player that deals with the exact same thing then perhaps it has more merit.
Time to make it happen.
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 20:04:46
October 05 2011 20:04 GMT
#509
Server: NA
Your Name: iokke
Hacker Name: pEON
Hacker Battle.net ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2936099/1/pEON/
Replay: http://drop.sc/40948
Description: Maphacking on a 4 player map, very easy to spot. Start of the game he sends a probe straight to my natural and moves camera over my base, that is covered by fog of war, throughout the game.
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Chimaira987
Profile Joined December 2010
Hungary3 Posts
October 06 2011 18:15 GMT
#510
Server: EU
Your Name: Chimaira
Hacker Name: RaZieL
Hacker Battle.net ID: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/831331/RaZieL
Replay: http://cupapp.com/hu/replay/view/332/1v1-Antiga_Shipyard-Chimaira-RaZieL
Replay: http://cupapp.com/hu/replay/view/333/1v1-Nerazim_Crypt-Chimaira-RaZieL
Description: He is a maphacker. I played 2 times with random and he countered me blindly.
asd
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 06 2011 22:08 GMT
#511
Server: EU
Your Name: (smurf, won't tell, won't upload replay)
Hacker Name: MǂAdel
Hacker Battle.net ID: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2379739/1/MǂAdel/
Replay: will only send to admins of Teamliquid

Description: Blink hack, 400-600 APM blink control - without even looking properly. There's also a thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272557

This is a FAKE! Adelscott... I did inform Adelscott/Millenium about it.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 06 2011 23:14 GMT
#512
Please do not post and not post a replay or your account. That has 0 credibility. If you want anonymity please send the report to TL Anti Hack.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 06 2011 23:29 GMT
#513
this thread doesnt matter at all so who gives a damn

User was temp banned for this post.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
MartynX
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom122 Posts
October 07 2011 00:44 GMT
#514
Server: EU
Your Name: MXfive
Hacker Name: Tiger
Replay: http://drop.sc/41242
Description: 6:35 Looking at my main (no vision), exactly where my stargate and phoenix are, and immediately moves marines to his mineral line. Then at 6:43 looking as moving units to my natural (again no vision).
Xtkq
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada14 Posts
October 07 2011 01:26 GMT
#515
Server: US
Your Name: Xtkq
Hacker Name: cZaCbass
Replay: http://www.2shared.com/file/mqre_9QF/Xtkq_v_cZaCbass.html
Description: I recall playing this guy a really long time ago and he sucked, so I guess he finally decided to download a maphack. He's currently rank Rank 8 in GM and he wasn't that high awhile ago.

High points in rep:
6:00 for no reason whatsoever randomly attack moves the bottom right of his base, he instantly reacts to killing the pylons.
10:11 engineering bay for no reason
10:47 turret for no reason
10:58 instant scan as soon as i go up ramp, no delay what so ever

it's not really conclusive but im sure if any other GMs here have qued into this guy I would suggest reviewing the rep, I also got the stupid border (which isn't proof.. but weird). this guy played really strangely, the one thing that convinced me is the random A move into the bottom right of my base, he didn't even scout DTs when he had a hidden scv in my base.

just a warning
Kyrth
Profile Joined July 2010
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 03:15:16
October 07 2011 03:02 GMT
#516
Server: NA
Your Name: Kyrth
Hacker Name: pingon, http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2143946/1/pingon/
Replay: pingon maphack, http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/14038
Description: pingon sees my rush before it arrives (2:44), this is obvious not only because he looks at it in the fog of war, but because he publicly declares I'm rushing (2:48) before I show up on his radar, and where my base is (2:52) without scouting. Also, he proceeds to lag the game after he dies just out of spite, after saying that he was about to do so (4:41). This is actually proven by his not leaving the game when he dies so that the lag can stay, just as he foretold he would do. Stupid.

edit: just noticed he's already confirmed here...
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 07 2011 19:55 GMT
#517
On October 07 2011 08:14 Probe1 wrote:
Please do not post and not post a replay or your account. That has 0 credibility. If you want anonymity please send the report to TL Anti Hack.


And who is that... I offered to send to Admins/mods of Teamliquid and if I don't have credibility here, then I don't care and enjoy playing against hackers :o!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TL AntiHack
Profile Joined May 2011
39 Posts
October 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#518
If it is something exceedingly sensitive you can PM me. Otherwise, please follow the format.


FORMAT
Server: NA/EU/SEA/KR
Your Name:
Hacker Name: Provide a Bnet link if possible.
Replay: PLEASE NAME YOUR REPLAY "hackername maphack"
Description: The more descriptive you are here, the better, please provide timestamps if at all possible.


Reports that do not follow format will most likely be ignored.
Currently not active
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 07 2011 22:50 GMT
#519
Well, as I do not know who you are... ignore my post :-)! Or PM Kennigit to watch my replay I send him~
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
donkeykong
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 06:24:08
October 08 2011 00:01 GMT
#520
Server: NA
Your Name: ilovecheese
Hacker Name: Snod
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?562f9gg16fwmidi
Description: No scouting. Hides a probe in my base for proxy pylon on Tal Darim.

3.35 my probe is idling outside his base after scouting. He clicks on fog of war to see what I am doing.
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