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After the great success of Season 1 & 2, without further delay we find the season 3 thread. Everyone that contributes, no matter the amount, has our thanks. With many hands even insurmountable becomes easy. Thank you for reviewing the replays submitted to this thread. We couldn't do it without you.
Special Note
During the next month we will be closing out all the reviews from Season 2. Replays already posted from Season 3 in the last seasons thread will be reviewed there then added to this list. Don't worry about the red tape, we'll take care of it.
All replays submitted AFTER this thread is created must be added to the season 3 thread for review.
Welcome to Team Liquid's Season 3 Hacker Database!
Tags we use!
We are currently using two tags to denote whether a player is a hacker, or if a player is committing suspicious activity and we are unable to draw a conclusion within the TL Antihack Team.
[CONFIRMED] ::: This player is for sure a hacker. The TL Antihack team can clearly pick out points within a replay that leave the team with zero doubt.
[NEEDS REVIEW] ::: This player is suspicious and displays behavior that is similar to that of a confirmed hacker. However, in order to make sure that we do not confirm someone as a hacker that is not actually hacking, we have this tag for when the TL Antihack team is unable to determine within itself if the player is hacking or not. PLEASE download this replay, watch, and give us your input. If majority says yes/no, we may delete the player from the list or change this tag to a [CONFIRMED]. Please read the description below the replay for further information as to why this tag was used.
[DROP HACK] ::: This player is drop hacking all or most of his games. Checking this players history will show you a very large amount of wins and none to very little losses; in general the games will last only a few seconds to a couple minutes. Unfortunately there isn't a whole lot one can do against a drop hack, however we will list him here so that if a final list of hackers gets sent to Blizzard by the TL Antihack team, they will be included.
When reporting a hacker, please submit in the format below. If you do not attach a replay, or a character code, we will likely have to skip your post. It slows down the process of review considerably so be considerate! Copy this format, paste it into your post and fill in the blanks! Also, be kind- don't use megaupload or other sites that require a 40 second wait period before replays can be downloaded.
FORMAT
Server: NA/EU/SEA/KR
Your Name:
Hacker Name: Provide a Bnet link if possible.
Replay: PLEASE NAME YOUR REPLAY "hackername maphack"
Description: The more descriptive you are here, the better, please provide timestamps if at all possible.
Feel free in the description area to provide your own proof. We will check the replay either way. It's recommended you watch your own replay for the obvious stuff before submitting...too many false reports and you're likely to be warned/banned.
What do I look for in replays?
Thankfully aidnai wrote up a pretty good list of things that are hack/not hack material. Take a look below and please consider. Keep in mind that sometimes people are lucky. If someone proxys you without a scout, they might have just gotten lucky. We can't really confirm a hacker on these sorts of things.
Good evidence for hacks (post replays that show things on this list):
- Repeated camera focus on the enemy (your) base when it is under fog, without giving unit orders (attack/move)
- Repeated camera focus on your army outside your base, but under fog, especially without giving unit orders. This doesn't mean your opponent sending a marine to a XN watchtower when you have a probe there is hacks though.
- Camera focus on dropships/ovies/warp prisms or any unit in an unusual location on the map for no when it is under fog and there is no reason to look there.
- Reactions to the army when it is under fog (this one is tricky though, as there is often a decent excuse for the hacker's army movement, for example, moving to take a XN tower, moving to secure a third, moving to threaten an expo, positioning the army better, etc. For this to be solid evidence, there should be no obvious goal for the army movement other than a reaction to what is seen via maphack.)
Weak evidence for hacks (i.e. not enough evidence by themselves):
- Proxying the correct location without scouting.
- Anticipating drops/muta timing/DT's/VR's/backstabs etc. Some people just take these things into account in their normal build order.
- Unit composition/blind counters. It could very easily be dumb luck that your opponent went VR's without scouting when you went pure marauder. Or whatever.
- One or two glances at your main under fog. Everyone does this normally (at least I do), to remember what building they scouted, or to send a scout, or to feel more confident about the map/walloff position/whatever. If you're on a 4 player map and your opponent only looks at your main (before scouting), then that's evidence, but occasionally glancing can be normal too.
Not evidence for hacks:
List of known and confirmed hackers
[NEEDS REVIEW]
[CONFIRMED]
NORTH AMERICA
[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name: Lone / RatZDeeZer
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/6T9Pgc
Description: Possible Map hacking and or production tab hacking.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Zelthcon
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/13967
Description: Manipulates the client, admitted to hacking. Auto D
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Fedaykin
Replay: http://drop.sc/26738
Note: Confirmed in Season 2 as well.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Longoria
Replay: http://sc2r.me/3jit
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Bone
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?n1356v0i5ih8f0o
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Terrantula
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?ovpg3iy11zgwupa
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Pingon
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?vmayw5xwk8aa6a5
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Spectre
Replay: http://drop.sc/25983
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Betterfuture
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=226034
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: AfterMathDev
Replay:http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/11812
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: ClubGlam
Replay: http://drop.sc/26337
EUROPE
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: LuzSec
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/175401-1v1-terran-zerg-shakuras-plateau
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: OrdoabchaO
Replay: http://www.4shared.com/file/eYvo_aWe/OrdoabchaO_vs_Betrayer.html
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Matt
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/XNnDgr
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: ToT
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/pHn1tfhttp://replayfu.com/r/pHn1tf
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Savior
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?cvy66gmqa7p5qp2
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: thekoyaa
Replay: http://drop.sc/26135
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Brutal
Replay: [url blocked]
SEA
KOREA/TAIWAN
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Togo
Replay: http://drop.sc/24819
Mod Warnings :
On September 09 2010 02:50 Plexa wrote:
If people fuck with this thread then they're taking a trip to disneyland
On September 09 2010 02:32 JWD wrote:
Frivolous reports will be cause for warn/ban. Please keep this thread civil and reasonable people!
Season 1
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Server: EU
Your Name: mjwDamador
Hacker Name: Savior
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?cvy66gmqa7p5qp2
Description: no scout, dropped in base blindly, look on the fog all the game long, obvious map hack just watch the replay x8 on Savior pov. I trash talked cuse i knew he had a maphack ...
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On August 09 2011 19:16 DamAnus wrote:FORMAT Server: EU Your Name: mjwDamador Hacker Name: Savior Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?cvy66gmqa7p5qp2Description: no scout, dropped in base blindly, look on the fog all the game long, obvious map hack just watch the replay x8 on Savior pov. I trash talked cuse i knew he had a maphack ...
6:15 - Peeks at your army through fog
7:00 - Very "lucky" banshee intercept
7:41 - He drops you with blueflamex4. Worth noting he didn't drop behind the smoke where a normal player might (since you had a marine in there)
8:37 - Peeks at your army
8:52 - Peeks at your army
9:18 - Another "lucky" air intercept with vikings
9:20 to 10:30 - So many army and base peeks I cant be bothered counting them all
11:08 - Army peek outside natural....
Continuing any further is pointless, this guy is blatant.
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Server: NA
Your Name: sTsCompleted
Hacker Name: Longoria
Replay: http://sc2r.me/3jit
Description: Was in replay checking why he left randomly. Was in his PoV and he scrolled over to my army (which was in FoW), said "fucking faggot" and left. Also, multiple FoW checks during the game, i.e. 20 seconds in FoW checks my base on a 4player map.
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On August 10 2011 10:51 sTsCompleted wrote:Server: NA Your Name: sTsCompleted Hacker Name: Longoria Replay: http://sc2r.me/3jitDescription: Was in replay checking why he left randomly. Was in his PoV and he scrolled over to my army (which was in FoW), said "fucking faggot" and left. Also, multiple FoW checks during the game, i.e. 20 seconds in FoW checks my base on a 4player map.
Yeah no need for debate on this one, obvious cheat.
His terrible mechanics really let him down, seeing what your opponent is doing is entirely different to actually combating it. Maphacking can only take you so far up the ladder I guess.
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Server: NA
Your Name: Monchix
Hacker Name: Bone
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?n1356v0i5ih8f0o
Description:
@2:27 Looks a my nat through FOW
@3:36 Sees my ramp blockade through FOW without scouting it (wth?)
@3:43 Peeks at my nat again
@4:47 more peeks
@5:06 sees my proxy scouting probe
@6:42 more peek and sees my stargate
@7:28 looks at wandering probe again
@8:00 more peeks toward the end of the game
I'm a bit reluctant to send the report as he never sees the void coming in for the attack, if he was maphacking. Also, this is the second hacker I've encountered this week alone, at the same grave night hours too.
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Yeah excessive fog peeks. Maphacker.
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Thanks for all the work Adam 
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Server: KR/TW
Your Name: NaViSlaViK (Im not NaViSlaViK, but I took a look on the replay)
Hacker Name: Togo
Replay: http://drop.sc/24819
Look the replay on his person. Look at the fog of war, He's never scouting & counter all the thing who the zerg do.
And he is top 8 on sc2ranks...
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How did you come across this replay?
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Server: US
Your Name: ZoD
Hacker Name: Terrantula
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?ovpg3iy11zgwupa
Description: Goes for proxy pylon on 4 player map. Then looks at my base through fog of war and see's my 8-10 pool immediately builds forge back home with 2 gates, and 2 cannons. Then hovers over my base for a extend period of time. Didnt scout once!! obviously map hacking. sad part is this is in silver league.
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Yay Season 3 thread! :D
On August 11 2011 01:07 HighlyToxic wrote:+ Show Spoiler +FORMAT Server: KR/TW Your Name: NaViSlaViK (Im not NaViSlaViK, but I took a look on the replay) Hacker Name: Togo Replay: http://drop.sc/24819Look the replay on his person. Look at the fog of war, He's never scouting & counter all the thing who the zerg do. And he is top 8 on sc2ranks...
Watched from Togo's POV:
1:26 - Looks directly at base through fog of war.
2:20 - Looks at base again.
2:50 - Looks at base again...
2:55 - Glances at overlord to make sure it won't see his probe.
3:00ish - Avoids lings with probe before moving up to cannon the natural.
4:22 - Looks at base again...
5:32 - Looks at lings coming out.
8:45 - Pulls probes in natural to defend against roaches he can't see.
10:40 - Checks the natural for his army.
10:42 - Looks at scouting overlord headed into his base on the side.
10:44 - Looks at the overlord on the other side of the base.
11:55 - Sends sentries to kill nydus preemptively.
12:18 - Pulls all his probes and waits to kill the nydus that comes at 12:29.
14:20 - Pulls probes to kill nydus in fog of war.
15:12 - Looks at army through fog of war.
15:56 - Starts placing cannons in mineral line right as the first mutas are building.
16:16 - Looks at army through fog of war.
17:00 - Looks at army and each base/tech for a full 10 seconds...
17:19 - Blinks stalkers to high ground to intercept mutas.
18:46 - Looks through fog of war at burrowed ling at his fourth and fifth, then builds an observer for the first time.
20:00 - Looks at army...
Disgustingly blatant haxing. Probably the only reason he's close to top 8. >.> His play is really not very good, lol.
On August 11 2011 03:18 LadyGagaHasPP wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Server: US Your Name: ZoD Hacker Name: Terrantula Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?ovpg3iy11zgwupaDescription: Goes for proxy pylon on 4 player map. Then looks at my base through fog of war and see's my 8-10 pool immediately builds forge back home with 2 gates, and 2 cannons. Then hovers over my base for a extend period of time. Didnt scout once!! obviously map hacking. sad part is this is in silver league.
Watched from Terrantula's POV:
1:32 - Looks at your base.
2:41 - Looks at base...
5:26 - Maybe this is lucky, but clicking DIRECTLY on that one ling that is hiding in his base seems pretty lucky even though he knows it's over there somewhere.
Okay a few things-- this is an EXTREMELY low level play here. (Watching from his POV is pretty humorous.) That makes some of your reasoning on why he's a hacker not particularly valid.
The pylon only tells us he is dumb. This is a great map to proxy gate/pylon on because you actually don't have to scout. With no close spawns, placing a gate down behind the grass between the two bases is close to either one. Placing a pylon in the middle is further away and almost guaranteed to get scouted (except maybe in silver league you can get lucky with this sometimes.)
Also, I really would caution you against thinking anyone at this level is hacking just because of a forge first and cannon overkill. Newbs turtle so hard, lol.
That said, the fog of war looks were very obvious. He is hacking. XD
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Server: NA
Your Name: VogonPoet
Hacker Name: Pingon
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?vmayw5xwk8aa6a5
Description: Knows my location in this FFA without scouting, peeks at the fog of war, knows that I've expanded all over the map without scouting (and chastises the other remaining player for not scouting me). Already confirmed in S2 Hacker database sans consequence (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222975).
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Server: NA
Your Name: Tassadar
Hacker Name: Lone
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=226012
Description:
At 13:20 into the game, there is a dropship incoming to the red terran base (Lone's ally). For some reason which I believe are maphack, Lone pulls backs most of his army from the watchtower in the middle, even though he has no sight, nor has anything that could have told him the ennemy was about to pull off a drop then just sits in his ally base till the drops occurs, then leaves back and go into the middle. The army movement is so sudden and seems to have absolutely no reason that it seems to be maphack to me.
This refers to: •Reactions to the army when it is under fog (this one is tricky though, as there is often a decent excuse for the hacker's army movement, for example, moving to take a XN tower, moving to secure a third, moving to threaten an expo, positioning the army better, etc. For this to be solid evidence, there should be no obvious goal for the army movement other than a reaction to what is seen via maphack.)
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Server: NA
Your Name: Juvant
Hacker Name: Spectre
Replay: http://drop.sc/25983
Description: Watched this replay without thinking anything suspect was going on, but noticed that during several battles spectre's apm spiked to 600-1200. Thought this was impossible, which I believe it is, so I had my teammate watch it as well. He noticed that at 12 minutes, if you watch from Spectre's view, his stalkers are blinking on the minimap, across the map, while he macros in his base. All with his impossibly high apm.
At about 19:20, his apm hits 900 and remains between 900 and 1200 for the next 20 ingame seconds, including a few seconds when he looks away from the battle at his expansion, while still microing.
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On August 11 2011 15:08 Tassy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Server: NA Your Name: Tassadar Hacker Name: Lone Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=225929Description: At 13:20 into the game, there is a dropship incoming to the red terran base (Lone's ally). For some reason which I believe are maphack, Lone pulls backs most of his army from the watchtower in the middle, even though he has no sight, nor has anything that could have told him the ennemy was about to pull off a drop then just sits in his ally base till the drops occurs, then leaves back and go into the middle. The army movement is so sudden and seems to have absolutely no reason that it seems to be maphack to me. This refers to: •Reactions to the army when it is under fog (this one is tricky though, as there is often a decent excuse for the hacker's army movement, for example, moving to take a XN tower, moving to secure a third, moving to threaten an expo, positioning the army better, etc. For this to be solid evidence, there should be no obvious goal for the army movement other than a reaction to what is seen via maphack.)
Watched from Lone's POV:
3:36 - Builds zerglings and rallies them towards but not directly to the probe you have sitting in his natural. Possibly suspicious only in the context of a lot of other suspicious things.
13:20 - Pulling his army back like that has to be for the dropships. He hasn't even kept any of his army in his own base the entire game, why would he suddenly move all his units into the middle of his allies?
In my mind there is no other justification for his army movements at 13:20-14:00ish than maphax. He keeps selecting his army in anticipation for the drop and rallies his mutas into the base to clean up the medivacs as well. There aren't really any other signs of hacking the entire game, but that one is so strong I am convinced he is simply watching his minimap very closely rather than making the more obvious staring through fog of war mistake.
On August 11 2011 16:08 Juvant wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Server: NA Your Name: Juvant Hacker Name: Spectre Replay: http://drop.sc/25983Description: Watched this replay without thinking anything suspect was going on, but noticed that during several battles spectre's apm spiked to 600-1200. Thought this was impossible, which I believe it is, so I had my teammate watch it as well. He noticed that at 12 minutes, if you watch from Spectre's view, his stalkers are blinking on the minimap, across the map, while he macros in his base. All with his impossibly high apm. At about 19:20, his apm hits 900 and remains between 900 and 1200 for the next 20 ingame seconds, including a few seconds when he looks away from the battle at his expansion, while still microing.
Watched from Spectre's POV with APM tab up:
APM jumps to 1kish around 10:00, 12:30, 19:20, 20:20.
Quite honestly, I am not sure what to think.
It is very hard to tell in the middle of a big fight, but I replayed these times over and over, and it seemed to me that his stalkers were blinking sometimes when no one had them selected. (Noticed this at the 19:20 battle.) Never heard of a hack like this before, but there are AIs that can do it, so I suppose there could be a hack that blink micros for you?
Some other inputs are definitely needed.
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On August 11 2011 16:08 Juvant wrote:Server: NA Your Name: Juvant Hacker Name: Spectre Replay: http://drop.sc/25983Description: Watched this replay without thinking anything suspect was going on, but noticed that during several battles spectre's apm spiked to 600-1200. Thought this was impossible, which I believe it is, so I had my teammate watch it as well. He noticed that at 12 minutes, if you watch from Spectre's view, his stalkers are blinking on the minimap, across the map, while he macros in his base. All with his impossibly high apm. At about 19:20, his apm hits 900 and remains between 900 and 1200 for the next 20 ingame seconds, including a few seconds when he looks away from the battle at his expansion, while still microing.
After watching this replay, I feel the same way as you do. Some players tend to have really high APM by multitasking but in this case, I feel like it's some kind of microhack. I've seen a roach burrow one that acted like this before. Just when the roaches were about to die, they burrow, backed and unborrowed. Coming from a good players, I would have believed it, but since it was from someone with 50 apm all game long spiking at 900 durings fights, defenetly a hack. I believe that Spectre was using something similar to what I just described....
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On August 12 2011 00:57 CraShed-Ice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 16:08 Juvant wrote:Server: NA Your Name: Juvant Hacker Name: Spectre Replay: http://drop.sc/25983Description: Watched this replay without thinking anything suspect was going on, but noticed that during several battles spectre's apm spiked to 600-1200. Thought this was impossible, which I believe it is, so I had my teammate watch it as well. He noticed that at 12 minutes, if you watch from Spectre's view, his stalkers are blinking on the minimap, across the map, while he macros in his base. All with his impossibly high apm. At about 19:20, his apm hits 900 and remains between 900 and 1200 for the next 20 ingame seconds, including a few seconds when he looks away from the battle at his expansion, while still microing. After watching this replay, I feel the same way as you do. Some players tend to have really high APM by multitasking but in this case, I feel like it's some kind of microhack. I've seen a roach burrow one that acted like this before. Just when the roaches were about to die, they burrow, backed and unborrowed. Coming from a good players, I would have believed it, but since it was from someone with 50 apm all game long spiking at 900 durings fights, defenetly a hack. I believe that Juvant was using something similar to what I just described....
I'm Juvant :p m But yeah, I have heard a lot of pros making a big deal out of July's apm spiking to 700 in some pro game years ago, and that was in BW apm. SC2 is 40% higher I believe. He'd have to be making about 25-28 actions per second for that 20 second period. Which I absolutely think is impossible, even with tremendous spam.
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On August 12 2011 03:24 Juvant wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 00:57 CraShed-Ice wrote:On August 11 2011 16:08 Juvant wrote:Server: NA Your Name: Juvant Hacker Name: Spectre Replay: http://drop.sc/25983Description: Watched this replay without thinking anything suspect was going on, but noticed that during several battles spectre's apm spiked to 600-1200. Thought this was impossible, which I believe it is, so I had my teammate watch it as well. He noticed that at 12 minutes, if you watch from Spectre's view, his stalkers are blinking on the minimap, across the map, while he macros in his base. All with his impossibly high apm. At about 19:20, his apm hits 900 and remains between 900 and 1200 for the next 20 ingame seconds, including a few seconds when he looks away from the battle at his expansion, while still microing. After watching this replay, I feel the same way as you do. Some players tend to have really high APM by multitasking but in this case, I feel like it's some kind of microhack. I've seen a roach burrow one that acted like this before. Just when the roaches were about to die, they burrow, backed and unborrowed. Coming from a good players, I would have believed it, but since it was from someone with 50 apm all game long spiking at 900 durings fights, defenetly a hack. I believe that Juvant was using something similar to what I just described.... I'm Juvant :p m But yeah, I have heard a lot of pros making a big deal out of July's apm spiking to 700 in some pro game years ago, and that was in BW apm. SC2 is 40% higher I believe. He'd have to be making about 25-28 actions per second for that 20 second period. Which I absolutely think is impossible, even with tremendous spam.
Yeah, my bad I mixed the name. Just edited it, no harm intended hehe
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Server: EU
Your Name: Juken
Hacker Name: thekoyaa
Replay: http://drop.sc/26135
Description: Maphacking
Looks at my army as i am pushing out then looks at the probe going left and moves on to look at the zealot at the tower.
Never scouting where i am he tankpushes me with missile turrets without scouting my dt shrine, and kills 2 of my 'scouting' pylons by sending units to where they were without seeing them. Perfect siege timing all the time.
I started suspecting something was wrong about 7-9 minutes in, he seemed to accurate with everything he did, scans, pushes, hunting down dt's.
hes match history is also interesting, never really win/lose/win/lose but only win streaks followed by streaks of losses, i assume he is keeping his mmr down or simply he is being matched against guys to good for him even with hacking.
he only missed one pylon and i assume it is because he has focused on killing me.
I also asked the guy he played after me to review their replay and he agreed that what the guy did seemed a bit fishy.
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