TL Hacker Database, Season 2!

TL AntiHack

39 Posts

May 14 2011 17:18 GMT

Banner thanks to biomech!

After a great success with Season 1 (and part of 2!) we are going to be creating threads with the release of each season to try and keep things fairly organized. Without any further delay...

Welcome to Team Liquid's Season 2 Hacker Database!

Tags we use!

We are currently using two tags to denote whether a player is a hacker, or if a player is committing suspicious activity and we are unable to draw a conclusion within the TL Antihack Team.

[CONFIRMED] ::: This player is for sure a hacker. The TL Antihack team can clearly pick out points within a replay that leave the team with zero doubt.

[NEEDS REVIEW] ::: This player is suspicious and displays behavior that is similar to that of a confirmed hacker. However, in order to make sure that we do not confirm someone as a hacker that is not actually hacking, we have this tag for when the TL Antihack team is unable to determine within itself if the player is hacking or not. PLEASE download this replay, watch, and give us your input. If majority says yes/no, we may delete the player from the list or change this tag to a [CONFIRMED]. Please read the description below the replay for further information as to why this tag was used.

[DROP HACK] ::: This player is drop hacking all or most of his games. Checking this players history will show you a very large amount of wins and none to very little losses; in general the games will last only a few seconds to a couple minutes. Unfortunately there isn't a whole lot one can do against a drop hack, however we will list him here so that if a final list of hackers gets sent to Blizzard by the TL Antihack team, they will be included.

When reporting a hacker, please submit in the format below. If you do not attach a replay, or a character code, we will likely have to skip your post.

FORMAT
Server:
Your Name:
Hacker Name:
Replay:
Description:

Feel free in the description area to provide your own proof. We will check the replay either way. It's recommended you watch your own replay for the obvious stuff before submitting...too many false reports and you're likely to be warned/banned.

What do I look for in replays?

Thankfully aidnai wrote up a pretty good list of things that are hack/not hack material. Take a look below and please consider. Keep in mind that sometimes people are lucky. If someone proxys you without a scout, they might have just gotten lucky. We can't really confirm a hacker on these sorts of things.

Good evidence for hacks (post replays that show things on this list):

Repeated camera focus on the enemy (your) base when it is under fog, without giving unit orders (attack/move)
Repeated camera focus on your army outside your base, but under fog, especially without giving unit orders. This doesn't mean your opponent sending a marine to a XN watchtower when you have a probe there is hacks though.
Camera focus on dropships/ovies/warp prisms or any unit in an unusual location on the map for no when it is under fog and there is no reason to look there.
Reactions to the army when it is under fog (this one is tricky though, as there is often a decent excuse for the hacker's army movement, for example, moving to take a XN tower, moving to secure a third, moving to threaten an expo, positioning the army better, etc. For this to be solid evidence, there should be no obvious goal for the army movement other than a reaction to what is seen via maphack.)

Weak evidence for hacks (i.e. not enough evidence by themselves):

Proxying the correct location without scouting.
Anticipating drops/muta timing/DT's/VR's/backstabs etc. Some people just take these things into account in their normal build order.
Unit composition/blind counters. It could very easily be dumb luck that your opponent went VR's without scouting when you went pure marauder. Or whatever.
One or two glances at your main under fog. Everyone does this normally (at least I do), to remember what building they scouted, or to send a scout, or to feel more confident about the map/walloff position/whatever. If you're on a 4 player map and your opponent only looks at your main (before scouting), then that's evidence, but occasionally glancing can be normal too.

Not evidence for hacks:

Losing to someone with lower APM.
Getting dropped by b.net when you were winning.
Perfect timing with a push. A hallmark of high level play is well timed pushes, catching you when you are teching or expanding and are vulnerable. By itself this is not evidence.
Your opponent failing to react to what he scouts.
Your opponent does something that seems to not make sense.
Your keyboard not responding in a match.
On May 16 2011 02:24 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
try depressing the alt key and releasing hte same with control there's some weird bug in sc2 where the alt key will get stuck in the loading screen so that your keyboard won't work.

List of known and confirmed hackers

NORTH AMERICA

[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name: Jobless
Replay: http://drop.sc/16990

[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name: GtoYeuGbe
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6343
Description: A suspicious amount of unlikely scouting and army movement. It looks like a map hack but further reviews are needed. Please watch and comment on the replay.

[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name: uniqueEsports
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/7796
Description: Ehan drop timing and preemptive defense of unscouted banshees but I'm not entirely convinced it was hacking. Please review!

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: AEONksparksz
Replay: http://drop.sc/17184
Description: Constant FOW looks. He's got a case of the map hacks. Take a ban and don't call in the morning.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name:GabeMagnus
Replay:http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/8001
Replay 2 :http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/8006
Description: Maphacks abound.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: TaVoRKiLLeR/NighTMarE
Replay: http://drop.sc/18274
Description: Abundant FOW scouting and map hack behavior

[CONFIRMED] Hacker Name: UnderCover
Replay: http://drop.sc/10757
Description: Almost hid perfectly - the proxy expo snipe at the end really proves it. Couple of looks through fog of war at army and base. Maphack

[CONFIRMED] Hacker Name: nGsSojU
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/1501
Description: Predicting army/observer movement. Moving to defend vs unscounted warp prism twice. Maphack.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Blueberrys
Replay 1: http://replayfu.com/r/hzbVDc
Description: Maphacks - early FOW scout, and further proof is when he looks at the scouting probe in a random location through fog of war.

Replay 2: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/3364
Description: 3v3 with KCBadgers, ShOwie, all of them very obvious maphacking from the very beginning with fog of war scouting their opponents.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name:DrugDealer
Replay:http://replayfu.com/r/BGrv4p
Description: Lots and lots of Fog of War spying. Finds hidden expo, sets his medivacs to unload at the base pre-scouting.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: LugiA
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/2187
Description: A LOT of looking through the fog of war at his opponent without any scouting.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker name: BigJ
replay : [url blocked]
replay 2 : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/2232
Description: Both replays display a tremendous amount of fog of war scouting. Definite Maphack.

[CONFIRMED]:Hacker Name : Azarias
Replay : http://drop.sc/11278
Description: Fog of War scouting, blind countering army and drop movements.

[CONFIRMED]:Hacker Name: HINT
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GLSt7k
Description: Maphacks to scout his opponents base many times, also clicks on opponents buildings through fog of war.

[CONFIRMED]:Hacker Name: Rem
Replay: [url blocked]
Description: Lots of looking at opponents base through fog, predicting army movements without vision, reacting to opponents moves in fog.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: sHAPE
Hacker Name: sHAPE (Protoss)
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?jf7nbajur3h31r8
2)http://replayfu.com/r/Lnb2Tt
3)http://sc2rep.com/replays/%28P%29ATD_vs_%28P%29sHAPE_the_shattered_temple_sc2rep_com_20110706/10901
Three seperate replays, all with an abundance of long, caring stares into the FOW and short walks right to the unscouted base. The third replay is a proxy 2 gate with no prior knowledge of spawn location while the first two have an abundance of FOW scouting.
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[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Roscoe
Replay 1: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=211268
Description: Ragequits after his ramp is pylon blocked without scouting it, I am unconvinced from this replay, as he sees the probe outside his nat for a split second, and can easily judge a cannon rush or pylon wall is there - also loses the selection on the probe when it goes back into fog of war

Replay 2:http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=211759
Description: This replay, however, seems to be a lot more convicting of maphacks. Blind counters and scouts DTs around on the map, as well as pauses the game around 13:30ish and pans around his opponents base to size up his army. Blind scouts and kills a hidden DT near his third/fourth...very suspicious on this one. I'm pretty convinced on this second replay but give them a watch and let me know what you think.

[CONFIRMED]Hackers Name: KCBadger
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/3364
Description: 3v3 with Blueberrys, ShOwie, all of them very obvious maphacking from the very beginning with fog of war scouting their opponents.

[CONFIRMED]Hackers Name: ShOwie
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/3364
Description: 3v3 with Blueberrys, KCBadger, all of them very obvious maphacking from the very beginning with fog of war scouting their opponents.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name:BackDoorHero
Replay:http://replayfu.com/r/M6SmJs
Description: Fog of war scouting, and quite a bit of it.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: facekick
Replay:http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/4672
Description: Does a lot of scouting through fog of war, scouting tech buildings inside opponents hidden main.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Fedaykin
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/25vSkp
Description: Predicts mutas are coming right as they leave the zerg's base, and has an army of stalkers that react to a last second change of direction by the mutas immediately. Oh, he can't see the mutas at this point either. Lots of other suspicious void ray movements.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: MissP
Replay: http://drop.sc/15703］http://drop.sc/15703
Description: A massive amount of fog of war scouting.

CONFIRMEDHacker Name: VenusProject
Replay: http://bit.ly/iRSF3S
Description: Fog of war scouting and reactions to army movements before it is scouted.

CONFIRMEDHacker Name: OMGLETSCYBER
Replay: http://replayfu.com/download/LdMZcd
Description: Map hacking evidenced by reacting to events under the FOW.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: nycjmz
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/HhQFms
+ Show Spoiler [4 Additional Replays] +

2)http://www.2shared.com/file/C1fwxkIL/Backwater_Gulch_-_nycjmz_HACKE.html 3)http://drop.sc/14409
4)http://drop.sc/14408
5)http://replayfu.com/r/HhQFms

Description:This replay + the 4 others are riddled with fog of war scouts, "unbelievably" lucky proxies, and is definitely showing a maphacker.
[CONFIRMED]
Hacker Name: wsuppp
Replay: http://topreplays.com/Replays/Details/7293/Wsuppp_XPIRTDESIGN_vs_raWr_KINtoYou http://drop.sc/16360 & http://drop.sc/16361
Description: Three different replays, all of them showcasing his ability to look at his opponents base without scouting it then react.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: dEaSUnG
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=216943
Description: While there was some suspicious FOW peeking, his constant positional advantages and ability to react to unseen expos are far beyond reasonable. Either he's map hacking or I look forward to seeing him on the GSL.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Bstallion
Replay: http://drop.sc/15712
Description: Lots of fog of war scouting, little actual scouting. Reacts to an all in with a ludicrouss amount of spine crawlers. Map hacking in different area codes.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: toolegit
Replay: http://drop.sc/16085
Description: Fog of war peek then immediately counters what he couldn't have seen without a map hack. By Queen Elizabeth's petticoat, a clue Sherlock!

[CONFIRMED]Hacker name: Rara
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/7499
Description: Announces what his opponent is doing as he does it without scouting. By request.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker name: pingon
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/7429
Description: "During the FFA called out my fast expansion without scouting it. He doesn't even try to hide the fact that he can see what everything you do"

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Wayne
Replay:
1) http://www.mediafire.com/file/5vuvpxfou28g0y6/Khaydarin-Tiefen 2v2 Wayne-Maphack.SC2Replay
2) http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdya32dgsymsdla/Tempest hack 2v2 Wayne-Maphack.SC2Replay
Description: Uses in game chat to tell his team mate the information his map hack is giving him.

[DROP HACK]Hacker Name: hgIAN
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?
Description: Frequent fog of war scouts throughout the game and when it becomes clear he won't win, he drops his opponents.

[DROP HACK]Hacker Name: LadyZerg
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6427
Description: Followup yielded match results indicative of drop hacking. A series of 1-5 minute games and 10 minute or less games that showed LadyZergs opponents in the lead under every catagory yet inexplicably leaving.

[DROP HACK]Hacker name: ReVenGe
Replay: http://sc2rep.com/replays/()oATmeal_vs_()ReVenGe_xel_naga_caverns_sc2rep_com_20110630/10588
Description: Long history of maphacking, now adding drophacking to his list of illicit hobbies.

EUROPE

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name:ImbaGay
Replay: [url blocked]
Description: Admits hacking then proceeds to prove it.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Savior
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&&id=219895
Description: Repeated and plain evidence of map hacks.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: EGskitzo
Replay: http://www.2shared.com/file/SP6jLCoj/map_hack.html
Description: ESP or Map hacks. Which do you believe in? That was rhetorical don't answer that.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: forMASTER
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=212540
Description: -doesn't scout -blind counters my tech -doesn't look for proxy pylons EXCEPT the one place i put it -Constantly looks through FOW at my base. Reporter summed it up very nicely. Scouts and reacts to tech by looking through fog of war.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : XytoxicNL
Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?403b7571j6tv7jv
Description : This guy has been reported in season 1, only then he was named "XitoxicNL". Now he is "XytoxicNL" ^^ very creative. He still uses maphax, not scouting, looking through fog, the works.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Ayyildiz
Replay: http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/70347940/file.html
Description: Very odd replay...probably the toughest one yet. Thanks to everyone who gave their opinions. More people feel like this replay was of a very low level player with a maphack than a non-hacking replay, so I am going to confirm. Initial FOW scout before lings are up, the EE HAN TIMING vs sieging tanks outside of his field of vision are what causes this to tip into confirmed.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : iMpure.224
Replay : http://hs-s.com/mods/replays/download.php?id=17
Description : Blatantly obvious FOW scouting. Not even scouting, he practically plays the game in the FOW...

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: KwiiMnChll
Replays:
Typhon Peaks
Shakuras Plateau (most obvious)
http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=8903
Description: All three reps are proxy 2gates in the right location. Second replay is most easy to tell - dodges probe scout with his own by going way out of his path at the perfect moment. Scouts a very sneaky Forge through fog at 1:30. Pulls a ton of probes to kill off a cannon rush he never saw. Other two reps are very similar.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: pAz
Replay: http://tinyurl.com/3eqcrrh
Description: Watching his opponents base very often under fog of war.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: qardyune (T)
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/4901
Description: Checks out his opponent's main in the fog multiple times. Plus a proxy Stargate, and rallies a bunch of lings right on top of it. Finds hidden expo with no vision as well. Obvious.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: mjwShyK
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6779 http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/4e05fd77e40f9_mjwShyKVsSaafen(MapHack).SC2Replay
Replay 2: http://www.xup.in/dl,74222716/Metalopolis_(56).SC2Replay/
Replay 3: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=219556
Description: Over three dozen instances of staring at his opponents base or army through the fog of war between two replays.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker name: horja
Replay: http://drop.sc/18160
Description: Blatant FOW scouting.

SEA

[NEEDS REIVEWHacker Name : Statmat
replay: http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/show/id/10829
Description: No blatant FOW scouting and he is caught at a loss by what his opponent does but at the same time he never scouts and attacks correctly without scouting. There are some mild FOW looks but nothing damning. Perhaps someone can see additional evidence?

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: AweSomTerran
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=212251
+ Show Spoiler +

Description:

Hey he doesn't have a starport....

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Profiler
Replay: http://drop.sc/14355
Description:
Many times he looks through the fog and then reacts to the fog perfectly coinciding with his opponents build.

[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Duan
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/7734
Description: Hovers over the FOW when his opponent makes an 8 pool and immediately walls off and pulls back probe. Never scouts but his actions show he had knowledge of what was coming and from where.

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Season 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244

Masq

Canada1792 Posts

May 14 2011 23:26 GMT

Server: EU
Your Name: Smurf (T)
Hacker Name: KnY (Zerg)
Replay: http://www.2shared.com/file/3VtNB0Mg/KnY_DropHack.html
Description: lag hack after repeated pressure. Game starts lagging out of no where (CPU Lag, roughly 10-15 seconds of delay). I pause, do a pingtest and im absolutely fine). Unpause and the game freezes (literally unable to move screen/type/etc for several minutes). Game eventually unfreezes and now im sitting at "waiting for server" screen with absolutely no drop countdown.

edit: zerg oddly enough never scouts and turtles hard as well without knowing any pressure is coming. He is 37-2 in master league and obviously is cheating due to his record and mechanics (1900 mineral on 2base zerg 10minutes in?)

Strangely enough, this lag is replicated in the replay file as well.

Screenshots:

edit2: upon checking his match history, his first few games listed here are all under 8seconds as well.

Sporadic44

United States533 Posts

May 15 2011 13:10 GMT

second time this has happened to me. upon entering a game my character keys wouldnt work. and when i hit enter the chat screen appeared as such.
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is this a confirmed bug or some sort of hack? both times i could not use any alphabetic keys but could use all other keys on the keyboard.

edit: spoiler tag, and the reason for the screen shot is the chat dialogue. it normally says all when you hit enter.

DirtYLOu

575 Posts

May 15 2011 16:04 GMT

On May 15 2011 22:10 Sporadic44 wrote:
second time this has happened to me. upon entering a game my character keys wouldnt work. and when i hit enter the chat screen appeared as such.
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It's not a hack. I have this sometimes as well, I don't know why tho.

All you need to do is click ctrl + alt + delete and the task manager will show up, and u can close it cuz u can now use keyboard in SC2.

I don't know why it happens tho T_T

Raelcun

United States3747 Posts

May 15 2011 17:24 GMT

try depressing the alt key and releasing hte same with control there's some weird bug in sc2 where the alt key will get stuck in the loading screen so that your keyboard won't work.

DirtYLOu

575 Posts

May 15 2011 19:37 GMT

On May 16 2011 02:24 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
try depressing the alt key and releasing hte same with control there's some weird bug in sc2 where the alt key will get stuck in the loading screen so that your keyboard won't work.

Oo Thanks <3

seodoth

Netherlands315 Posts

May 15 2011 22:08 GMT

Realm : EU
Your name : seodoth
Hacker Name : XytoxicNL
Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?403b7571j6tv7jv
Description : This guy has been reported in season 1, only then he was named "XitoxicNL". Now he is "XytoxicNL" ^^ very creative. He still uses maphax, not scouting, looking through fog, the works.
Obvious things to note : I had a friendly conversation with him, we talked about a lot of things, played 2 more games, in which he still hacked, and in the end I gained a lot of information about him.
+ Show Spoiler +

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001749886948
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/sytseb92
Hyves (dutch facebook): http://sytseb-92.hyves.nl/
This last link is most interesting. He contacts the one who apparently produces these maphacks, so I hope blizzard investigates this. http://www.d3scene.com/forum/members/valiantchaos/xitoxicnl/#vmessage9647
He also told me he was top 150 eu and owned 4 accounts.
NOTE: btw i think its good to keep the list of reported and proven hackers and not stash them away. Having a thread for every season were going to get doesnt make any sense, why you cant have just the complete list -_- its not like there are that many that it takes up way to much space or something.

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

May 15 2011 22:18 GMT

On May 16 2011 01:04 DirtYLOu wrote:

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I think this should be added to the OP, since alot of peopel report this and its obv not a hack

nullmind

1303 Posts

May 16 2011 03:05 GMT

Server: NA
Your Name: FreshShock
Hacker Name: UnderCover
Replay: http://drop.sc/10757
Description: Played a normal PvP on Metalopolis. When he first attacked my proxy pylon, I was thinking it could be luck. When he attacked my proxy nexus blindly with 2 zealots, I checked the replay to see if he saw my nexus and I noticed couple more stuff while watching the replay. I was a ladder admin in pgtour/iccup checking for reps. I wouldn't accuse anyone of hacking unless I was 100% sure. Each timeline I posted might not be hacking if it happened just once. I noticed 5 occurrences in a 10 minute game.

5:23 checks my natural (my stalker was out there to check for probe)
7:23 sudden urge to check exactly where the pylon was built
7:53 checks the warp prism (my units were there to move out)
10:33 warps in 2 zealots without even scouting for nexus

Speece

United States50 Posts

May 16 2011 17:22 GMT

#10

Server: NA
Your Name: Blarg
Hacker Name: AntiTheist
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?5s5e6hdqcq2iswn
Description: ZvZ on xel naga. i dont feel like playing a real game so I 7 pool and he makes a 9 pool and a spinecralwer (WTF?) blindly, and a bunch of lings that just hang out in his base waiting for my 7 pool. The entire game he didnt not even scout my base. its still in the fog of war for him. This is totally unheard of in a masters level game. i start to go one base roach. he puts his roach warren down immediately after mine and then cancels ling speed when he sees im not getting it. At 11:00 he splits his units to try to get a better concave without seeing me coming. At 15:18 he sends a drone out to his third thinking that i would take mine beacuse we both just destroyed our rocks. instead i move out and the drone sits there for the rest of the game, and he decides to move his spinecralwer to the front.
his apm is also abysmally low for a masters player (46)

Synystyr

United States1446 Posts

May 16 2011 17:47 GMT

#11

Out of curiosity, who is running this thread now? Did arb ever find someone else to collaborate with on this? I know he was getting overwhelmed with the number of incoming replays after a while...I'd also love to help if need be.

TL AntiHack

39 Posts

May 16 2011 19:06 GMT

#12

On May 15 2011 08:26 Masq wrote:
Server: EU
Your Name: Smurf (T)
Hacker Name: KnY (Zerg)

His match history cleaned up a little bit - he's still 38-7 though. Will bookmark him and keep an eye over the next couple of days. If people feel like adding him, chime in.

On May 16 2011 07:08 seodoth wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : seodoth
Hacker Name : XytoxicNL

Yeah, definately. Doesn't even make it like 15 seconds in without FOW scouting you. Added.

On May 16 2011 07:18 arb wrote:
I think this should be added to the OP, since alot of peopel report this and its obv not a hack

Done. Thanks for clearing that up Raelcun.

On May 16 2011 12:05 nullmind wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: FreshShock
Hacker Name: UnderCover

He's sneaky, he is. Aside from those few things he was pretty cool about it. Even the Pylon scout could have been coincidence. He tried to make it look that way. The expo snipe at the end was like...the nail in the coffin. Added.

On May 17 2011 02:22 Speece wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Blarg
Hacker Name: AntiTheist

edit: See arb's post below. Explains it alot better than me.

On May 17 2011 02:47 Synystyr wrote:
Out of curiosity, who is running this thread now? Did arb ever find someone else to collaborate with on this? I know he was getting overwhelmed with the number of incoming replays after a while...I'd also love to help if need be.

Currently just arb + Torenhire (me). I just had a week full of travel, so I didn't get a chance to go over stuff until today. Will keep you in mind if we start getting replays out the wazoo.

Thanks gents.

Xxazn4lyfe51xX

United States976 Posts

May 16 2011 21:00 GMT

#13

Server: NA

Your Name: PuLLz

Hacker Name: nGsSojU

Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/1501

Description: Didn't really seem like too much at the beginning, except he seemed to always have 3 stalkers and an observer in position to intercept any incoming observers. Watch when his first observer comes out and his army repositions to snipe mine immediately. The big thing was at about 12:30 when I position a warp prism above his base in preparation for a dt drop. He immediately brings 3 stalkers and his observers back to his main. I thought this might just be good foresight on his part, but after awhile, he moves them away because I haven't moved in to drop yet. When I do move in at 13:30; however and begin warping in DT's behind the fog (which he didn't not see at all), his entire army returns to his base just as my DT's start warping in. I honestly can't find a reasonable explanation for why someone would move their entire army from their natural to the top of their base when they haven't seen anything yet.

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

May 16 2011 21:48 GMT

#14

Me and Torenhire are running the thread in conjunction, if you'd like to help send him a PM

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

May 17 2011 08:38 GMT

#15

On May 17 2011 02:22 Speece wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Blarg
Hacker Name: AntiTheist
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?5s5e6hdqcq2iswn
Description: ZvZ on xel naga. i dont feel like playing a real game so I 7 pool and he makes a 9 pool and a spinecralwer (WTF?) blindly, and a bunch of lings that just hang out in his base waiting for my 7 pool. The entire game he didnt not even scout my base. its still in the fog of war for him. This is totally unheard of in a masters level game. i start to go one base roach. he puts his roach warren down immediately after mine and then cancels ling speed when he sees im not getting it. At 11:00 he splits his units to try to get a better concave without seeing me coming. At 15:18 he sends a drone out to his third thinking that i would take mine beacuse we both just destroyed our rocks. instead i move out and the drone sits there for the rest of the game, and he decides to move his spinecralwer to the front.
his apm is also abysmally low for a masters player (46)

6/7/8pool allin with drones is VERY common on ladder, nothing wrong with his response he could have expected you to play cheesy(you always run the risk of dying to a stupid build like this on XNC)

He cancels his ling speed, after he puts down a roach warren, he's running one gas
And as i suspected while watching he ran out of gas making roaches(therefor he needed the extra gas for more roaches yeah?)
Id put down a roach warren after seeing no early baneling aggression too, so i dont think any hacks there.

Making a concave is something people have been doing in RTS since the dawn of time hell even i do it without scouting, better safe than sorry.

not taking a 3rd, youre attacking him the entire time do you think it would be wise to take a 3rd and try to expand? not to mention you killed all his drones so he didnt have the money to expo anyway.

Either this was a VERY bad master player, or a really lucky(he still lost so i dont know why youre even bothering to report this) or someone (low level perhaps) playing on a friends account.

Either way i dont see him being a hacker.

Thats my verdict on it

TL AntiHack

39 Posts

May 17 2011 13:15 GMT

#16

On May 17 2011 06:00 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
Server: NA

Your Name: PuLLz

Hacker Name: nGsSojU

Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/1501

Description: Didn't really seem like too much at the beginning, except he seemed to always have 3 stalkers and an observer in position to intercept any incoming observers. Watch when his first observer comes out and his army repositions to snipe mine immediately.

I watched the first time in his POV only, and you moved your obs over his army as he was looking at it. Even I noticed it immediately. All his zealots got all wavy. Dismissing that one as luck / noticing the obs.

The big thing was at about 12:30 when I position a warp prism above his base in preparation for a dt drop. He immediately brings 3 stalkers and his observers back to his main. I thought this might just be good foresight on his part, but after awhile, he moves them away because I haven't moved in to drop yet. When I do move in at 13:30; however and begin warping in DT's behind the fog (which he didn't not see at all), his entire army returns to his base just as my DT's start warping in. I honestly can't find a reasonable explanation for why someone would move their entire army from their natural to the top of their base when they haven't seen anything yet.

There was another odd thing in this game that you missed, at...like 6:15ish, he moves his army out to the gold to intercept your stalkers rallied there, then goes running back to his Nat. Could be luck but if you pause when he orders the move, his cam is on top of your stalkers - I guess you could justify that as looking for a secret expo however.

Honestly, I think the second and third observer snipes are way more convincing than the first one - still, if I had to go off of those alone, I wouldn't confirm though. I will agree with you on that Warp Prism deal. He knew right where that Warp Prism was going to come in from, he was positioned in the perfect spot to intercept it. Then when those DTs came warping in, everyone came running back into the main. And I can't blame the cloak wavy effect here, he never even looked at the DT's until he was shooting at them, he didn't see the wavy cloak effect and go "SHIIIIIIII" and move everyone back. That combined with the obs snipe, and the army move, I'll say yes.

Also, props for being gm.

drox22

129 Posts

May 18 2011 07:22 GMT

#17

FORMAT
Server: EU
Your Name: drky
Hacker Name: (zerg player) - check replay
Replay: http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/70347940/file.html
Description: After 1 minute he looks at my base without sending a scout, he 6 pooled on a 4 player map against terran who usually wall-in (in this case I didn't because I 2-raxed), he looked at my base several times through the fog of war. He had no scouting overlord anywhere near my base and of course knew exactly where I spawned.

I won but it is so obvious this guy was maphacking and yes I insult cheaters and I don't care what you think about that, cheaters ruin this game and when playing this guy I was 100% sure he was cheating.

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

May 18 2011 08:02 GMT

#18

On May 18 2011 16:22 drox22 wrote:
FORMAT
Server: EU
Your Name: drky
Hacker Name: (zerg player) - check replay
Replay: http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/70347940/file.html
Description: After 1 minute he looks at my base without sending a scout, he 6 pooled on a 4 player map against terran who usually wall-in (in this case I didn't because I 2-raxed), he looked at my base several times through the fog of war. He had no scouting overlord anywhere near my base and of course knew exactly where I spawned.

I won but it is so obvious this guy was maphacking and yes I insult cheaters and I don't care what you think about that, cheaters ruin this game and when playing this guy I was 100% sure he was cheating.

-He looked at your base to send the lings
-Based on his scouting and yours, it was obvious where you were. Even if he couldn't figure it out from your scout, he ovie scouted close air and knew you were either close ground or cross positions. Don't you think it makes sense to send his lings where he did?

There is no evidence of your opponent hacking. Please review the guidelines in the OP before posting here again. My advice to you is manner up and don't be so suspicious of others.

He 9-pooled by the way.

drox22

129 Posts

May 18 2011 08:04 GMT

#19

On May 18 2011 17:02 aidnai wrote:

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are you serious?

When he first looked at my base I hadnt even scouted his base yet and he looked at my base several times throughout the entire replay, what other evidence do you want?

And having no scouting overlords around my base or at the bottom of his ramp doesn't make you suspicious at all?

edit: And he didn't even have lings yet when he looked at my base (after 1 minute - what game are you playing??) get your facts straight.

edit: I just watched the replay again - he looked directly at my base at around 1:20 without sending a drone to scout - I haven't scouted him yet (obviously) - he didn't scout my base for the entire game. at around 8:30 he looks at my marines through the fog of war - again he didnt scout them.

And a little bit later he looks at my main for a good 10 seconds - again no scout, all he could have seen was 2 barracks and a bunker (what he saw after his 9-pool)

if this isn't obvious maphacking then I don't know what other evidence you need.

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

May 18 2011 10:07 GMT

#20

On May 18 2011 17:04 drox22 wrote:
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if this isn't obvious maphacking then I don't know what other evidence you need.

-sending lings to the right base is not evidence
-looking at your base briefly on 1-2 occasions is not good evidence

read the OP. If you're still lost, look at a replay of an actual hacker. All of the points you bring up are explained by your spawn positions + overall level of play from both players.

If arb/torenhire look at this, I am confident they will agree that the replay you submitted does not provide evidence of hacking.

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