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I watched this one as well, and I don't think its a hack. He scouted early and saw your probe come out of your base at the ramp. Although the heading directly to your base is suspicous, its shakuras, and there is a 50% chance of scouting right the first time.
Edited for Grammer.
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On November 04 2011 10:36 Mstring wrote:I just played a zerg named "Tastetosis" who did some interesting moves as Zerg. Map was Shakuras. 1) I block his ramp with 3 pylons, he cancels his hatch. Sounds normal, except that when you watch the replay he had no vision of the pylons. Must have been good game sense... 2) Around 7 minutes after my FFE I drop twilight and 3 more gates. After TC I went for DT shrine. From the watch-tower I noticed that with his army of roaches he had an overseer. I cancel my DT shrine. I watched the replay and shortly after dropping the shrine he made no less than 5 overseers. Completely standard. 3) I controlled the watch towers early so my probe could plant some pylons around the place without detection. I plant two to start with, one at the 11 o-clock angle just out of range of the top tower, and one at the 5 o-clock angle just out of range of the bottom tower. Shortly after he accumulates an army of roaches, he rallies his army into the fog exactly onto one pylon, then the other. Must have been good game sense of knowing where my pylons would be. 4) I built another pylon at his not-yet-built 4th. When he goes for the 4th, he builds the hatch and then rallies his army again directly to my pylon (in the fog). Great game sense. 5) He had corruptors at our first (and last) engagement. I didn't think much of it at first but when I watched the replay, I noticed that he dropped the spire just after I started my colossus den. Great game sense right there, and amazing knowledge of timings. Not once did his camera pan to my base though. From the pylon kills alone it is blatently obvious that he had some sort of hack going on. This guy was in master league. Bronze season 1, bronze season 2, top diamond season 3, now master season 4. Unfortunately for him, hacks don't help you with army composition and I completely rolled him. Replay
This one is tough to call. Some of the pylon kills and timings are really lucky, but the fact that he let a probe sit by his natural Mineral line for a while is odd, and the fact that he missed the pylon right underneath his overlord is really odd. And if he knew that your army was there for the final battle he would of never engaged there, since it is a horrible position for him (He might just be bad though). Plus, he might have just reacted to seeing the two early gasses at the natural by making overseers, Something odd is going on, I just can't call it.....
Edited for grammer because I am horrible.
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On November 05 2011 12:24 Peanut Butter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 10:36 Mstring wrote:I just played a zerg named "Tastetosis" who did some interesting moves as Zerg. Map was Shakuras. 1) I block his ramp with 3 pylons, he cancels his hatch. Sounds normal, except that when you watch the replay he had no vision of the pylons. Must have been good game sense... 2) Around 7 minutes after my FFE I drop twilight and 3 more gates. After TC I went for DT shrine. From the watch-tower I noticed that with his army of roaches he had an overseer. I cancel my DT shrine. I watched the replay and shortly after dropping the shrine he made no less than 5 overseers. Completely standard. 3) I controlled the watch towers early so my probe could plant some pylons around the place without detection. I plant two to start with, one at the 11 o-clock angle just out of range of the top tower, and one at the 5 o-clock angle just out of range of the bottom tower. Shortly after he accumulates an army of roaches, he rallies his army into the fog exactly onto one pylon, then the other. Must have been good game sense of knowing where my pylons would be. 4) I built another pylon at his not-yet-built 4th. When he goes for the 4th, he builds the hatch and then rallies his army again directly to my pylon (in the fog). Great game sense. 5) He had corruptors at our first (and last) engagement. I didn't think much of it at first but when I watched the replay, I noticed that he dropped the spire just after I started my colossus den. Great game sense right there, and amazing knowledge of timings. Not once did his camera pan to my base though. From the pylon kills alone it is blatently obvious that he had some sort of hack going on. This guy was in master league. Bronze season 1, bronze season 2, top diamond season 3, now master season 4. Unfortunately for him, hacks don't help you with army composition and I completely rolled him. Replay This one is tough to call. Some of the pylon kills and timings are really lucky, but the fact that he let a probe sit by his natural Mineral line for a while is odd, and the fact that he missed the pylon right underneath his overlord is really odd. And if he knew that your army was there for the final battle he would of never engaged there, since it is a horrible position for him (He might just be bad though). Plus, he might have just reacted to seeing the two early gasses at the natural by making overseers, Something odd is going on, I just can't call it..... Edited for grammer because I am horrible.
All 3 pylons were in the fog. Normal zergs send lings around to find the pylons; he simply sent his army directly to my pylon, three times.
I think the mistakes you saw are the result of him simply being a terrible player. I don't think he was using a "maphack" in the sense of full map vision, but rather, the observer-panel hack which lets you reveal the map by pressing a button (i.e. going into 'everyone' mode). You could gain a sufficient advantage with the production tab alone. I looked at the build orders in his game history and it is very telling. Always has the counter build order.
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Server: EU
Your Name: Spender
Hacker Name: Zelthcon; http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1361059/1/Zelthcon/
Replay: irrelevant, not a maphack.
Description: This guy is using a "results disagree" hack. After beating him on ladder my match history shows a loss with no points lost, same as his match history. Also check his bnet profile. Main page of his profile shows 11 games played and 4 games won and ranks him as a "random" player. His league page shows him as a protoss player. Match history shows mostly "loss", "tie" or "left" while loosing no points. Now compare this to screenshots from his bnet profile in game:
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After searching on TL i found a thread about this very person. It was posted about a month ago. What is surprising to me is that he still wasn't banned.
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Can we make a season 4 version of this? I need to show a replay
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Ladder
Server: NA
Your Name: pryda
Hacker Name: Eaer
Replay: Ladder
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/15065
Description: proxys me on antgia without scouting looks at my main about 3 times as he goes to push up with his zealots he pulls them back for a sec as my stalker was walking to the ramp to catch it off guard
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@Mstring. I have to say I agree with you. Although the a-move wasn't directly on the pylons, it was close enough. He was either really lucky or had inside knowledge. Unfortunatly for him, map hacks do not make one good as macro/micro.
@Kroml: I think that they are using this database for half of season 4 since they shortened the seasons.
@IamPryda: Watched your replay (Because I had a few spare moments) and I am going to have to saw not enough evidence unforunatly. He does camera-pan twice over your base and proxies in the right direction, but considering he was afk for about 2 min at the start of the game, he might have just gone "Screw it" and proxied a random location. I didn't see the stalker ambush though; I think he was just waiting for that 4th zealot to pop. Someone else should take a look at this to see if this is really a maphack.
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Server: NA
Your Name: ePParamedico
Hacker Name: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/884547/1/Roscoe/
Replay: Ladder
Replay: http://drop.sc/53461
Description: Sends lings exactly to probe location before overlord even sees it. Look through the fog of war at my buildings multiple times. Moves to intercept stalkers that have blinked down immediately. Intercepts a probe coming down the ramp multiple times without having any vision of it moving down, and looks at the ramp area before he does it. Has perfect timing for spore crawlers just as my DT starts. I think this guy was also a confirmed hacker in previous seasons too.
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On November 07 2011 09:50 ItsYoungLee wrote:Server: NA Your Name: ePParamedico Hacker Name: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/884547/1/Roscoe/Replay: Ladder Replay: http://drop.sc/53461Description: Sends lings exactly to probe location before overlord even sees it. Look through the fog of war at my buildings multiple times. Moves to intercept stalkers that have blinked down immediately. Intercepts a probe coming down the ramp multiple times without having any vision of it moving down, and looks at the ramp area before he does it. Has perfect timing for spore crawlers just as my DT starts. I think this guy was also a confirmed hacker in previous seasons too.
Two of us have already reported him for Season 4 a couple of pages back =/
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Server: NA
Your Name: Panther.779
Hacker Name: iRLProAnnn
Replay: http://sc2upload.dyndns.org/replays/Panther/1320655548-iRLProAnnnMapHacker.SC2Replay
Description: I'm a middle/high masters player, and I wouldn't write a post unless I was sure.The map is on Antiga Shipyard, he goes immediately to my base, without even scouting any of my buildings. I can understand a proxy 2 gate if you manage to get a GLIMPSE of mining minerals that I had, but he didn't even do that.
I looked at his Match History, he just played against RevSoda a minute ago, and did the exact same Proxy 2 gate. I'm PM'ing RevSoda to see if he can give me his replay as well.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5064/proxy2gate.jpg
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I'm trying to upload a replay of a hacker, and I keep getting "There was an error parsing your replay" on more than one replay site?
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On November 08 2011 00:18 Soliduok wrote:
I'm trying to upload a replay of a hacker, and I keep getting "There was an error parsing your replay" on more than one replay site?
This is most likely caused by a glitch in the replay. Some hacks corrupt the replay file, thus making it impossible to see if the person was hacking or not. Can you watch the replay in SC2?
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On November 08 2011 05:23 Peanut Butter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 00:18 Soliduok wrote:
I'm trying to upload a replay of a hacker, and I keep getting "There was an error parsing your replay" on more than one replay site? This is most likely caused by a glitch in the replay. Some hacks corrupt the replay file, thus making it impossible to see if the person was hacking or not. Can you watch the replay in SC2?
Yea I can. And this is what I was thinking as well, that because the player was hacking it has caused the replay to be corrupt and therefor not able to be parsed. I wasn't sure if it was paranoia or a legitimate concern.
I am a mid masters player and have only encountered hackers twice before, and both were drop hackers (I rarely watch my replays because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt if I have suspicions, and can't be bothered). But in this case the player was DavidLynch who blindly three pylon walled me in on a 4 player map, without scouting and without spotting any overlords, drones, or creep. I also wasn't streaming.
I would really like to know if anyone else had concerns with this player, and if so, to come forward.
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This thread and the moderators of this thread have become a joke. No updates in over 2 months. If you guys are "too busy" to be focusing on this there shouldnt be a thread for this or there should be other people reviewing and moding this thread. Get your shit together seriously.
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On November 09 2011 00:14 RastaMonsta wrote:
This thread and the moderators of this thread have become a joke. No updates in over 2 months. If you guys are "too busy" to be focusing on this there shouldnt be a thread for this or there should be other people reviewing and moding this thread. Get your shit together seriously.
Lololol it's super funny because i made a critical post pertaining to this issue exactly 2 months and 2 days ago, and for being negative about it i get a warning and am told they are "working on reassessing how to approach things"
lol two months later there hasn't even been any UPDATES, much less any actual progress. i reinforce my previous suggestion of closing this laughing stock of a thread.
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Region: SEA
me: BioTech
hacker: BooMsLang
Replays: its the 2 latest replays on this site
Twice in a row in two 4v4 games.
This player looks at area (covered by the Fog of War) where nydus is building (@ 6:20) before the sound has occured. This in isolation could be feasible. However, in the 2nd replay he spends an inordinate amount of time viewing areas covered by the FofW.
At 7:08 he spends too long looking at the southern Xel Naga tower which his team DOESNT hold, but mine did.
At 7:28-7:36 he looks at my base which is covered by the FOW, he doesnt know I have a Starport, (but its reasonable to assume I would by this time). Nevertheless its uncanny that his stalkers arrive at 7:54 to precisely greet my dropships. Im 95% sure this guy is a hacker.
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On November 07 2011 17:52 Panther.779 wrote:Server: NA Your Name: Panther.779 Hacker Name: iRLProAnnn Replay: http://sc2upload.dyndns.org/replays/Panther/1320655548-iRLProAnnnMapHacker.SC2ReplayDescription: I'm a middle/high masters player, and I wouldn't write a post unless I was sure.The map is on Antiga Shipyard, he goes immediately to my base, without even scouting any of my buildings. I can understand a proxy 2 gate if you manage to get a GLIMPSE of mining minerals that I had, but he didn't even do that. I looked at his Match History, he just played against RevSoda a minute ago, and did the exact same Proxy 2 gate. I'm PM'ing RevSoda to see if he can give me his replay as well. http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5064/proxy2gate.jpg
I am going to have to say Yes to this one, although I am still new at this. Staring at someone's base without scouting it in the first minute is kind of a dead giveaway. Were you able to get the relay from RevSoda? If it is the same situation then I bet that this guy is a map hacker.
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Ladder
Server: NA
Your Name: MasterTater
Hacker Name: Attora http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2907815/1/Attora/
Replays: http://drop.sc/55558, http://drop.sc/55557
Played a game against a toss where I thought the game was over after a successful 4 gate attack. Somehow managed to pull through, so I watched the replay to see how and watched a bit through his vision, saw him centering his camera around my base despite being in the fog (he had observer and never even attempted to use it to scout). So I re-watched it from his vision and it's pretty obvious he was hacking in my opinion.
http://drop.sc/55558
There's a lot of times he moves his camera through my base despite having no vision, or centers on the bulk of my army. Wont list them all since you can just watch replay at 8x speed and see it's pretty frequently.
15:50 He looks at a random area with no vision in my base where my completed spire is, immediately throws down 2 cannons in mineral line.
17:55 He moves his camera to a seemingly random location, happens to be centered right over top of my moving mutas. He even sends down his stalker from the tower to intercept them.
~28:00 I move out, he sets up his army as though he knows the engagement is about to occur despite having no vision. Centers his camera slightly out of range of his actual vision right where my army is.
That was a couple days ago. Today, again, I play a toss and after a successful cannon rush that I thought set me far behind I end up winning and watch the replay. After watching the replay I come to the conclusion that he was map hacking without realizing it was the same guy until after the fact.
http://drop.sc/55557
Up until the first minute and a half you can see him putting his camera over my base, first right before deciding to have a low ground pylon and again before deciding to go forge first. Again this game he constantly scans my base through the fog despite not once the entire game getting actual vision of my main.
13:05 He places his camera over my hidden expansion (which has been up for awhile), immediately grabs the majority of his army and sends them to it.
13:39 Grabs his phoenix to intercept my overseer about a second before it actually enters his vision - Jedi reaction right there
He also keeps tab on my army. At 16:20 he places camera overtop of it, 17:12 right as I move out he places his camera over top of my army again. 17:52 he places camera just outside his vision where my army is and gets ready for the engagement about half a second before my roaches actually reach his vision.
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Ladder
Server: EU
Your Name: iMColoursz
Hacker Name: CHUCKBORRIS
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/15256
Well he doesn't scout me but goes for a timing attack must see that it doesn't work so he runs back to his base( my guess is he looked at his product tab) then continues to not scout me but then expands... still doesn't see my tech or even my unit choices but goes mass marauder with ghosts, while i went ht archon charglot so just watch the replay its pretty obvious
also another sign is he seemed pretty defensive of trying not to convince me he wasn't a maphacker so he chatted me for a long time/
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