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Server: EU Your Name: Tmzz Hacker Name: Brutal Replay: [url blocked] Description: Something was weird about this game, he sniped my quick hidden 3rd, than he was perfectly placed for my doom drop and suddenly left the game. When i watched rep from his view i saw why. 1:40 - looking at my base thru FOW, sends a probe to block expo. 4:00 - peek at the ovi 4:08 - peek at base 14:50 - looks at my drop incomming. Im to lazy to post more timings.
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Hacker: ClubGlam Blind proxy, half a dozen or so base peeks, pretty open and shut case. Hacker.
Hacker: Lone Tough call. My initial reaction was that maybe this replay was only posted because Tassadar was butt-hurt over red being a smack-talking asshat or he was upset about the unpause when he was AFK (No offense is meant to Tassadar, who wouldnt be upset after a game like that). But after seeing the incident in question, this really has me perplexed. Blues army falling back for seemingly no reason and intercepting a drop like this and leaving the front line potentially vulnerable to attack is quite a questionable strategy, in my opinion. I guess one incident in a 22 minute game isn't exactly rock solid evidence either, not a single fog peek, camera never stops moving to be a lock camera hack. I guess i fall under the opinion of maybe it was a fluke, I guess we wait for more replays of him to appear. Also, maybe I'm just nitpicking but I raised an eyebrow at this:
On August 13 2011 13:16 Italianstallion wrote: Hey this is Lone, I can assure you I was not hacking this game.
Hacker: Brutal Stopped after 9 minutes. This guy just plain doesnt care, dozens of fog peeks, going straight for a third that he hasn't even scouted. Easy calls are fun. Hacker.
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Update incoming - thanks everyone for posting with their reviews. I'll go over and confirm everything now.
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Server: NA Your Name: epikMikah Hacker Name: phanster [Edit: AND GoSu] Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/175178-2v2-terran-protoss-zerg-discord-iv Description: While playing it, he seemed to have PERFECT timing to counter my late mutas. all the times listed below are through FOW.
phanster: 1:40 looks at ramp 5:30 looks at ramp, my base, allys base. 8:21 looks at ramp 8:49 looks at my base. 9:15 looks at gold expo 9:26 looks at gold expo 10:35 looks at gold expo 11:11 looks at gold expo ... ill stop here im sure for the next 10 minutes, he FOW cheats more. (including perfect marine timing to stim + block my mutas)
GoSu: 10:41 sends DT at gold base, then looks at it. decides not to go. 11:13 looks at ramp 11:14 looks at gold expo 14:04 looks at gold expo 15:22 looks at our army in middle 16:38 looks at gold base (and mutas) 20:58 anticipates our attack and comes right when tanks come.
Edit: pardon my language in the replay, it was frustrating to deal with map hackers.
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Definitely a maphack. Fog of war peeks, no scouting, so on and so forth. The 9:30-10:30 minute was easily 20+ base peeks.
Plenty of fog of war peeks, really just watch the last 30 seconds and it's obvious. He scouts your massive army through the fog, and realizes he has a handful of marines, calls you out, and leaves. Simple confirm.
On August 10 2011 17:59 Acechi wrote:Server: NA Your Name: Monchix Hacker Name: Bone Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?n1356v0i5ih8f0oI'm a bit reluctant to send the report as he never sees the void coming in for the attack, if he was maphacking. Also, this is the second hacker I've encountered this week alone, at the same grave night hours too.
Confirmed your timestamps, and he doesn't REACT to your void ray, but he panned over your stargate, and built an evo + spores in his mineral lines, they just weren't done before the VR showed up. Go to the 8:30 timestamp to see this. The fog of war peeks alone are proof enough.
However you found the replay aside, I took a look at it.
The early game is enough to the trained eye.
lol just kidding - I'm no specialist - but he dodges all sorts of scouting, pans his camera over the base through fog, pre-blocks off lings at his ramp, blocks expansions across the map, the bases that he blocked with drones got scouted through fog...
This one is a little tough, because the level of play is so...erm...bad. Really, if he didn't hover over your base for like 2 minutes, I'd assume he was just terrible and wasn't hacking. However I'm going to say he's hacking in some form because of that same hovering. The random pylon / ramp buildings could theoretically be dismissed as his level of play.
Ignoring everything else, just stick it on x8, watch his camera, and read the chatlog. He "scouts" you and tells the rest of the FFA, haha. Easy.
This one is a little tough. I saw the questionable spot, and it's for sure fishy, however I'm going to dismiss this as no hacks. It's just one incident, other than this there is no evidence...I can't confirm off this alone.
I'll tell you that the fastest progamers in Brood War are pushing like...600APM, and thats VERY FEW players at peak. Most don't even get that high ever. I think the fastest APM ever was like 700 apm by JulyZerg.. For this guy to peak at 1240ish is absurd. Funnily enough I didn't see any maphacks (or I missed them talking to my gf >>)...so just this blink-micro hack. THere are other times where they are not even selected and blinking.
And my honest opinion is that the micro hack was terrible it didn't even friggin work, your roaches demolished his stalkers haha.
I don't even think 900+apm is possible in either game..
I have around 15 timestamps written down of various things, but we'll keep it simple and say that he's got lots of fog peeks, lots of pre-moving units, finding DTs instantly...so on and so forth. He found some pylons without scouting them and they were quite out of the way of his push.
I don't see any hacks in this replay. His scan showed a CC being built...common sense says that it's going to be landing somewhere. His hellions were meeting up with some of his own rallied dropships, plus he didn't even react to the dropship until it was over top of his natural, and in his main...so he had three opportunities to see it, assuming he WASN'T hacking and he missed them all. No hacks here.
The initial scout is enough, but the probe sniping and finding without seeing them is further proof. Confirm.
It's suspicious, I'll agree with you guys on that. I am however, going to disagree that it's hacking for now. What races are you guys, ZZ? RR? RZ? If you guys are ZZ I can understand a forge block, the cannons are so strange though. I would ONLY be convinced it was a production tab hack, but I just...I need more replays. It sounds like a bunch of people see him on ladder, post and suspicious replays. With enough submissions I can turn it around, but I'm just not 100% convinced, and I need to be in order to confirm. Maybe Probe1 and I will talk about it. Definitely a name to keep an eye on. Or two. If it's worth anything, he doesn't call you an all-in scum until your lings are in vision of his buildings.
He might have just wanted to block you early on because he could...it's really just all to random to confirm it, and with only a single piece of evidence, it's not enough for me. Sorry!
On August 12 2011 17:01 Stra-toss wrote: Hacker Name: AfterMathDev Replay:http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/11812
The Dark Templar shenanigans are enough for me, also at 18:20 he pulls his creep-spreading queens back to save them from your advancing army. If it weren't for the insane DT snipes I would say no hacks, but I'm going to confirm here once Probe1 replies to my PM. It's a pretty tough call.
Definitely a hack, and I just want to reinforce to anyone reading this that it's rare to have a confirm off a lucky proxy, but this guy definitely commits everything before scouting at all, plus scoots his camera up he ramp under fog a few times.
On August 13 2011 13:52 TmzZ666 wrote: Hacker Name: Brutal Replay: [url blocked]
Around the 5:00 parts there was a lot of fog peeking as well, 7:23, 12:40. Then the overlords are seen through fog. Confirmed.
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On August 11 2011 15:08 Tassy wrote:Server: NA Your Name: Tassadar Hacker Name: Lone Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=226012Description: At 13:20 into the game, there is a dropship incoming to the red terran base (Lone's ally). For some reason which I believe are maphack, Lone pulls backs most of his army from the watchtower in the middle, even though he has no sight, nor has anything that could have told him the ennemy was about to pull off a drop then just sits in his ally base till the drops occurs, then leaves back and go into the middle. The army movement is so sudden and seems to have absolutely no reason that it seems to be maphack to me. This refers to: •Reactions to the army when it is under fog (this one is tricky though, as there is often a decent excuse for the hacker's army movement, for example, moving to take a XN tower, moving to secure a third, moving to threaten an expo, positioning the army better, etc. For this to be solid evidence, there should be no obvious goal for the army movement other than a reaction to what is seen via maphack.) Hey this is Lone, I have been made aware that I'm being accused of being a hacker. I can assure you I was not hacking, my reason for having an army in my allies base is simple. If u noticed we had them contained in there base and my ally was doing a drop i was merely protecting my ally as he was doing an aggressive drop we had expo advantage and had them contained drops was the only option there team had.thanks for taking your time to read this. Im willing to fully co-operate with any further investigation. Keep me updated, thank you ~Lone
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You just posted that, and if you actually read my official post, you'll see that you didn't get tagged as hacking.
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On August 14 2011 12:06 Torenhire wrote: You just posted that, and if you actually read my official post, you'll see that you didn't get tagged as hacking.
He's probably retarded lol.
User was warned for this post
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It just looks like he hit quote instead of edit.
Try and keep the insults out of this thread, thanks! ^^;;
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Show nested quote + On August 12 2011 17:01 Stra-toss wrote: Hacker Name: AfterMathDev Replay:http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/11812
The Dark Templar shenanigans are enough for me, also at 18:20 he pulls his creep-spreading queens back to save them from your advancing army. If it weren't for the insane DT snipes I would say no hacks, but I'm going to confirm here once Probe1 replies to my PM. It's a pretty tough call.
So Probe1 replied to my PM, and was like "lol dude you're stupid, lookie here" and I missed a really incriminating piece, so I went ahead and confirmed this. Just a smidge of an update.
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Server: NA Your Name: IDIOTEQUE Hacker Name: Fedaykin Replay: http://drop.sc/26738 Description: Maphacking
Seemed suspicious all game but blatant at:
14:45 pulls all probes to kill a nydus in fog of war 16:35 pulls all probes once again to kill a fogged nydus
there's probably more evidence but I did not bother looking besides these two obvious ones
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I was totally like that d00d like no wai theres totally maphacks! Like, check out the c8zy shit at the hand haha! Then my fingers exploded.
Easy add.
On August 15 2011 08:32 esk wrote:Server: NA Your Name: IDIOTEQUE Hacker Name: Fedaykin Replay: http://drop.sc/26738Description: Maphacking Seemed suspicious all game but blatant at: 14:45 pulls all probes to kill a nydus in fog of war 16:35 pulls all probes once again to kill a fogged nydus there's probably more evidence but I did not bother looking besides these two obvious ones + Show Spoiler +[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Fedaykin Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/25vSkpDescription: Predicts mutas are coming right as they leave the zerg's base, and has an army of stalkers that react to a last second change of direction by the mutas immediately. Oh, he can't see the mutas at this point either. Lots of other suspicious void ray movements. Same guy, same bollucks. 16:35 pulls all probes once again to kill a fogged nydus 100% damning. There were some lovely instances where he forcefielded a ramp the same time unseen units were going to come down it but there's no way he could have seen that nydus without a maphack. Add to it that he pulls every probe, it's just ridiuclous
Continual looks through the FOW as his opponent builds structures and of course, the proxy 2 gate with 0 scouting. I'm convinced it's a map hacker.
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Server: EU Your Name: Cow Hacker Name: Matt (http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2191736/1/Matt/) and vik (http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/676005/1/vik/) Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/XNnDgr Description: I played 2on2 with my mate Needless against Matt and vik. I have not yet watched from vik's perspective myself, but my mate did so. There are several indicators for maphack being used in this game. Throughout the whole game they watch directly at our units through fog several times. They start out with very early roachwarren but don't get any units but go multiexpand after confirming through fog that we are turtling as a response. Later in the game vik sends his zerglings at my "secret" expansion without scouting it once- not even looking there! The sadder thing is Matt seems more than likely to use some kind of roach-micro hack as well. Peaking his APM in combats at 300+, sometimes even over 400, while not even watching it. Don't know if there have been newer examples of these kind of hacks being used, haven't heard too much about them since season two.
Please confirm this, makes me want to cry.
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Not mine, but I post it on behalf of Betrayer, because he isn't confident in his english skills.
Server: EU PlayerName: Betrayer Hacker Name: OrdoabchaO Replay: http://www.4shared.com/file/eYvo_aWe/OrdoabchaO_vs_Betrayer.html Description: Maphacking
Some times - that are the highlights imo:
+ Show Spoiler + - After the 8 mins not scouting (from both sides, heh) - the accused collects his army and blindly moves out directly towards Betrayer's base. 8:06-8:11 - FOW peek and pan around his base, move out orders, then more - pretty much until 8:20 8:25 - perfect peek on the only unit that moved out through the fow 8:40 - such a brave advance, almost suicidal, unless you know there's nothing in front of you + a very short peek to the ramp. ---intermission, there might be things I haven't noticed--- 13:36 - 13:40 - another perfect peek through the fow 15:33 - peek to the gold and rally of all his production buildings there I stopped counting all the other very short camera movements on the border of his vision - imo too many of them and exactly looking at the army. -Also - funny ending :D Bottom line - I am 99% certain all of these in 1 game can't be anything else, but maphack.
This is my opinion on this replay, it's open to discussion.
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On August 15 2011 08:32 esk wrote:Server: NA Your Name: IDIOTEQUE Hacker Name: Fedaykin Replay: http://drop.sc/26738Description: Maphacking Previously confirmed hacker
On August 15 2011 08:49 nAm wrote:- Server: Europe - Your Name: nAm - Hacker Name: ToT - Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/pHn1tfhttp://replayfu.com/r/pHn1tf - Description: Proxy 2 gates in base, without scouting. Just check his vision. Proxy 2 gates without scouting are pretty damn suspicious. Proxy 2 gates with FOW scouting are pretty damn obvious.
On August 16 2011 04:02 CCow wrote:Server: EU Your Name: Cow Hacker Name: Matt (http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2191736/1/Matt/) and vik (http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/676005/1/vik/) Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/XNnDgrDescription: Map/Micro  Definitely using a map hack with the rampant FOW looks and it looked like he was using a micro hack as well. Confirmed.
It was weird that he didn't scout. It was suspicious that he guessed right. It was painfully obvious between 15 and 17 minutes. Confirmed.
On August 18 2011 01:08 AysiktiriX wrote:Server: EU PlayerName: Betrayer Hacker Name: OrdoabchaO Replay: http://www.4shared.com/file/eYvo_aWe/OrdoabchaO_vs_Betrayer.htmlDescription: Maphacking + Show Spoiler + - After the 8 mins not scouting (from both sides, heh) - the accused collects his army and blindly moves out directly towards Betrayer's base. 8:06-8:11 - FOW peek and pan around his base, move out orders, then more - pretty much until 8:20 8:25 - perfect peek on the only unit that moved out through the fow 8:40 - such a brave advance, almost suicidal, unless you know there's nothing in front of you + a very short peek to the ramp. ---intermission, there might be things I haven't noticed--- 13:36 - 13:40 - another perfect peek through the fow 15:33 - peek to the gold and rally of all his production buildings there I stopped counting all the other very short camera movements on the border of his vision - imo too many of them and exactly looking at the army. -Also - funny ending :D Bottom line - I am 99% certain all of these in 1 game can't be anything else, but maphack. At first I wasn't entirely convinced but the attack on the gold base and the FOW look without a move command prior to it is definitely the lynch pin. Confirmed.
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 18 2011 02:03 TL AntiHack wrote:Previously confirmed hacker
Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 08:49 nAm wrote:- Server: Europe - Your Name: nAm - Hacker Name: ToT - Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/pHn1tfhttp://replayfu.com/r/pHn1tf - Description: Proxy 2 gates in base, without scouting. Just check his vision. Proxy 2 gates without scouting are pretty damn suspicious. Proxy 2 gates with FOW scouting are pretty damn obvious.
Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 04:02 CCow wrote:Server: EU Your Name: Cow Hacker Name: Matt (http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2191736/1/Matt/) and vik (http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/676005/1/vik/) Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/XNnDgrDescription: Map/Micro  Definitely using a map hack with the rampant FOW looks and it looked like he was using a micro hack as well. Confirmed.
It was weird that he didn't scout. It was suspicious that he guessed right. It was painfully obvious between 15 and 17 minutes. Confirmed.
Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 01:08 AysiktiriX wrote:Server: EU PlayerName: Betrayer Hacker Name: OrdoabchaO Replay: http://www.4shared.com/file/eYvo_aWe/OrdoabchaO_vs_Betrayer.htmlDescription: Maphacking + Show Spoiler + - After the 8 mins not scouting (from both sides, heh) - the accused collects his army and blindly moves out directly towards Betrayer's base. 8:06-8:11 - FOW peek and pan around his base, move out orders, then more - pretty much until 8:20 8:25 - perfect peek on the only unit that moved out through the fow 8:40 - such a brave advance, almost suicidal, unless you know there's nothing in front of you + a very short peek to the ramp. ---intermission, there might be things I haven't noticed--- 13:36 - 13:40 - another perfect peek through the fow 15:33 - peek to the gold and rally of all his production buildings there I stopped counting all the other very short camera movements on the border of his vision - imo too many of them and exactly looking at the army. -Also - funny ending :D Bottom line - I am 99% certain all of these in 1 game can't be anything else, but maphack. At first I wasn't entirely convinced but the attack on the gold base and the FOW look without a move command prior to it is definitely the lynch pin. Confirmed. Could you confirm vik (the other guy on that team) as well? He send the lings to my expo without even looking there and such, definitely hacking as well.
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Right first time poster here, would have liked it too be a more cheerfull one but ah well.
Server: EU Your Name: Kamari Hacker Name: Duy Replay: http://drop.sc/27547 Description: Maphacking
Cross position on Tal'darim, he send a probe at the very start straight too my base into a corner. Watches my warpgates through the fog at 5:53. Checks on my army at 6:53. At 7:19 makes one zealot and sends it too kill my proxy pylon without knowing it's there. 7:56 warps in a zealot and rallies it straight at my probe outside his base through fog. 8:04 checks on my front of the base through fog. 8:17 he watches my tech again through fog.
I thought at first he just had a lucky scout on his initial probe as I didn't find him on any of the close ones. And when he stopped my first attempt I didn't think much about it since that is a somewhat common place to put down a pylon. But when he sends 4 zealots without scouting my second attempt then I start suspecting. And I grow more suspicious as he manages to always time his drops when my stalkers are gone. And when my probes return after the first storm drop he send the prism righ back.
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Server: NA Your Name: Monchix Hacker Name: AfterMathDev Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?58ayhb1nrp6s9y5 Description: Map hacking and possibly Production Tab hacking
@1:57 peeks probe (suspicious but not incriminating yet, as you will see @6:21)
@2:00 checks and blocks ramp immediately as soon as the forge goes down (suspicious but not incriminating when I noticed it at first, but upon further review, he does his check/block almost instantaneously the moment the forge pops on the production tab.)
@6:21 peeks zealot coming up the ramp (VERY incriminating)
@7:23 (peeks?)/sends Overlord/Roaches to the lone probe's proximity (suspicious, not incriminating)
This guy is possibly the hacker that I have the hardest time reviewing today, as he is disciplined and discrete when doing so. Although as much as I would like to say he is a hacker, I hold very little evidence against him. I hope the TL Antihack community could help me with this one!
Side Questions:
1.) Does the TL Antihack community directly contact/report to Blizzard for these hackers? Or is it just a community neighborhood watch thing?
2.) Do you guys know how long it takes for Blizzard to process/review the hackers? I have sent a bunch of replays of hackers and yet the hackers are still playing.
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