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SummerZerg
United States82 Posts
Your Name: SummerZerg Hacker Name: Sven Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?gefgkfzp1s44rrk Description: 8:40-9:20 Watch Him follow my medivac through the fog and following my orbital lifting off to my natural through the fog. and Other stuff but those were the dead give-aways. | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
Your Name: mevietSAGA Hacker Name: Betterfuture Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=226034 Description: Use of some form of maphack. He catches every single one of my early scouting probe ( I thought he had vision of them, but when I was checking the replay, the whole 21 mins of gametime we played, he only ever saw 1 pylon at the edge of my base that I put there mid-game. Right at start of game, he stare through FOW at my base for a good while to check what race I randomed. Then he must've turned on cam-lock cause for the next 4 mins his camera never moved. Rest of game he never stared through FOW again though. Reacts to my pressure extremely well by throwing down spines with no vision of my army moving out. Never had lings at xnc tower. IMO, he has shitty mechanics and build orders for being in diamond league. I showed the reps to a few clan members and they agree it's blatant maphack with some form of cam-lock feature. Tbh, there's no 'concrete' proof except for the first 5-10 seconds of the game he stares at my base. However, lots of sending lings straight to where my probes are got me suspicious (nah i lied, i was watching the rep to bask in my brilliance at P =]p) Edit: btw, this was in a custom game too, so no loss on ladder or anything. I report this cause, he's also a TL member (search username: betterfuture), low post-count probs a lurker. But he's entered in a few tournaments as well, so just a heads up i guess. | ||
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ProTech
United States434 Posts
Your Name: ProTech Hacker Name: CheeseTown / GTLBaby Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GKK5F Okay first of all, I stream quite a bit so this happens frequently, however when I approached CheeseTown I told him if he was stream cheating then I will ignore it but he completely ignored me. The reason I am posting this is because there is a Grandmaster on their team and if he IS in fact cheating then he needs to be exposed. Anyway, you'll notice how they open dual forge at our ramps but completely disregard it and make cannons at their base without scouting my 6 pool. The reason I went 6 pool is because I've lost to these guys 100x with their proxies etc. EVEN IF my overlord scouted it that does not justify not making cannons, because if i opened ANYTHING BUT 6 POOL we would have EASILY been contained. But they didnt scout the pool and still backed off and completely countered what we were doing. It was completely blind. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
It's definitely very, very suspect to forge wall then sixth sense cannon their own base instead of their opponents. I hope you reported the match because I think this is something Blizzard will have to confirm (Camere lock map hacks are a bitch to prove) | ||
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Dsn4001
Korea (South)106 Posts
On August 12 2011 12:58 ProTech wrote: Server: NA Your Name: ProTech Hacker Name: CheeseTown / GTLBaby Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GKK5F Okay first of all, I stream quite a bit so this happens frequently, however when I approached CheeseTown I told him if he was stream cheating then I will ignore it but he completely ignored me. The reason I am posting this is because there is a Grandmaster on their team and if he IS in fact cheating then he needs to be exposed. Anyway, you'll notice how they open dual forge at our ramps but completely disregard it and make cannons at their base without scouting my 6 pool. The reason I went 6 pool is because I've lost to these guys 100x with their proxies etc. EVEN IF my overlord scouted it that does not justify not making cannons, because if i opened ANYTHING BUT 6 POOL we would have EASILY been contained. But they didnt scout the pool and still backed off and completely countered what we were doing. It was completely blind. Damn, I've played GTLBaby before and had some suspicions, but never kept the replay. | ||
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Lamabot
32 Posts
On August 12 2011 12:58 ProTech wrote: Server: NA Your Name: ProTech Hacker Name: CheeseTown / GTLBaby Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GKK5F Okay first of all, I stream quite a bit so this happens frequently, however when I approached CheeseTown I told him if he was stream cheating then I will ignore it but he completely ignored me. The reason I am posting this is because there is a Grandmaster on their team and if he IS in fact cheating then he needs to be exposed. Anyway, you'll notice how they open dual forge at our ramps but completely disregard it and make cannons at their base without scouting my 6 pool. The reason I went 6 pool is because I've lost to these guys 100x with their proxies etc. EVEN IF my overlord scouted it that does not justify not making cannons, because if i opened ANYTHING BUT 6 POOL we would have EASILY been contained. But they didnt scout the pool and still backed off and completely countered what we were doing. It was completely blind. So you accuse people of hacking WHILE you were streaming? That's pretty damn hasty. As far as I am concerned you cannot accuse someone of hacking if you were streaming the game in question | ||
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arterian
Canada1157 Posts
On August 12 2011 12:58 ProTech wrote: The reason I went 6 pool is because I've lost to these guys 100x with their proxies etc. EVEN IF my overlord scouted it that does not justify not making cannons, because if i opened ANYTHING BUT 6 POOL we would have EASILY been contained. But they didnt scout the pool and still backed off and completely countered what we were doing. It was completely blind. Just sounds like a whole lot of meta-gaming to me. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Stra-toss
Chile29 Posts
Your Name: Stratos Hacker Name: AfterMathDev Replay:http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/11812 Description: Ok at the star he goes for Expa before pool, so i started a pressure with stalkers, and he did mass lings without know that, ok, that is possible.... wired but possible. 15:40 He moved his lings to my natural when i had my forces a little forward in the map than normal but without any knowledge of that. 20 :40 he started to hit a rock, i moved my army and he came back to the center of the map. 23 min aprox: he started to made 2 extras overseer in his army when i sent somes dts to scout for expas, then he moved his army in the same direction. 23 35 he pulled out his drones of his lower expa with out know about dts. no detecion. he wasnt looking into that stop 23 50 he intercept my dts in the top of the map with his army ... no detection he wasnt looking into that spot. 27 50 he moves his army AGAIN where i was moving my dts. No detection for him. 28 40 he is attacking my lower expa, and he decides to go back when i pulled my army to that location, he never saw that. 30 40 (this one is good and the biggest one) again he moved his whole army to the top expansion just because he wanted to... amazing spider sense. And i let one dt in the back and when i moved into the expa he came back with his army AGAIN. witout vision. I let the dt into a corner and he didnt move , he made an overseer. 33 20, he decides to wath the rock on his natural at the same time when i distroyed it. amazing. 34 10, down in the map, i made a dt, he intercepts it, i want his spider sense... this guys is amazing. end of the game: he try to destroy my expa, he never scouted that part of the map.. long game... but i won... | ||
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dennistoo
Singapore155 Posts
On August 12 2011 12:58 ProTech wrote: Server: NA Your Name: ProTech Hacker Name: CheeseTown / GTLBaby Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GKK5F Okay first of all, I stream quite a bit so this happens frequently, however when I approached CheeseTown I told him if he was stream cheating then I will ignore it but he completely ignored me. The reason I am posting this is because there is a Grandmaster on their team and if he IS in fact cheating then he needs to be exposed. Anyway, you'll notice how they open dual forge at our ramps but completely disregard it and make cannons at their base without scouting my 6 pool. The reason I went 6 pool is because I've lost to these guys 100x with their proxies etc. EVEN IF my overlord scouted it that does not justify not making cannons, because if i opened ANYTHING BUT 6 POOL we would have EASILY been contained. But they didnt scout the pool and still backed off and completely countered what we were doing. It was completely blind. These guys are hackers. Enuff' said. Met them couples of times on ladder while doing 2s and GTLBaby is a GM. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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ProTech
United States434 Posts
On August 12 2011 13:25 Lamabot wrote: So you accuse people of hacking WHILE you were streaming? That's pretty damn hasty. As far as I am concerned you cannot accuse someone of hacking if you were streaming the game in question Even if i'm streaming there is a delay in the stream, that's why this shows them hacking. | ||
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ProTech
United States434 Posts
On August 12 2011 13:15 Probe1 wrote: It's definitely suspicious and you'll notice a LOT of weird times GTLBaby pans to the side of his base and holds still. There are no FOW looks but that's why I bring up the weird down times in his camera movement. He "could" be locking his camera for replays. It's definitely very, very suspect to forge wall then sixth sense cannon their own base instead of their opponents. I hope you reported the match because I think this is something Blizzard will have to confirm (Camere lock map hacks are a bitch to prove) Either way, it can't be stream cheating because there is a delay and they would need more time to make their decision | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
All I can say to that is… “yeah.. right.”. 1000+ APM during a battle is obscene even for the most gifted, especially when hes not displaying any outlandishly high APM throughout the game (110 average). Some form of blink-survival script at work here. Hacker: Thekoyaa Perfect siege timings. A million fog peeks. Glad I could watch this one on 8x considering its length. Hacker. Hacker: Sven I don’t see any cheating here. Those Hellions were moved to the southern position in anticipation for his dropship to ferry them across. If I were going to intercept a medivac, I’d probably use something that can attack air. He even sees your drop fly past and does not react until his mineral line is shredded. He got lucky by accidentally spotting your medivac (and didn’t react accordingly), that’s all. In regards to him moving up on your expansion, his first scan shows him looking at your expansion as its building, it’s a safe assumption that some 5 minutes later in the game that its probably now being put to use, and thus his marines move in. Hacker: BetterFuture Spends the first 10 seconds of the game looking at your base on a 4 player map…. LOL I could just stop here. Several times, he sends his lings to attack your ramp.. which he hasn’t scouted. Catches multiple scouting probes in odd locations without any hint that they’d be there. Many spinecrawlers made without reason (well, reason that would be known to a legit player). Easy call on this, cheater. Hacker: CheeseTown/GTLBaby I see a lot of cheesy play… unsure on hacks. If they were legitimately map hacking like is being claimed, they would have seen purples pool go down on the mini-map (which occurs before the forward pylons are even built) and aborted. How long is your delay on your stream? It is worth noting that they abort their forward position exactly 1 minute after purples spawning pool is begun, therefore if your stream is set to a 1 minute delay, they’d have seen the 6 pool over the stream and reacted accordingly. Obviously I don’t condone stream cheating either but it is always a possibility when you stream publicly. (these two warrant further replays for sure) Hacker: AfterMathDev This is a strange one. His DT intercepts are ridiculous, even if he was trying to claim he saw the distortion of a cloaked unit, some of the times I cant even see it with the game at ½ speed staring straight at them. Lots of “lightning” reactions moving his army back to the middle, which granted by the level of APM and general skills in this game, I’m going to say isn’t out of the realm of possibility since its probably a masters game (?). Moving out against the base in the bottom corner right at the end isn’t exactly concrete for me, at 36 minutes into the game, I’d just assume my opponent has every base on his half of the map. I guess I’d lean towards something fishy with those DT catches though, probably needs a further replay or two. | ||
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MiteCrow
Ireland38 Posts
I Dont believe this was a maphacking case at all. I see no obvious tell tail signs of one apart from the goofy forge play which looked more like a wall in of some sort. If they were maphacking they wouldnt have committed like they did, your pool went down before their first pylon, they simple would have noticed it and walled in at their base. The didnt once look through fog of war afaik as I watched the replay several times. If they were cheating in any way it was due to stream watching as I dont think you have much of a delay on your stream as I used to watch it and I never noticed a delay from when you would make a commercial after a game or comment. I can also cite a time when you felt you lost due to stream watching. All in all this has no tell tail signs of map hacking, unless some of the other players who encountered them post an incriminating replay i would be inclined to say they were not map hacking. This was just cheesy play from three players. | ||
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ProTech
United States434 Posts
On August 12 2011 21:54 MadeinSeptember wrote: In regards to Cheesetown and GTLBaby I Dont believe this was a maphacking case at all. I see no obvious tell tail signs of one apart from the goofy forge play which looked more like a wall in of some sort. If they were maphacking they wouldnt have committed like they did, your pool went down before their first pylon, they simple would have noticed it and walled in at their base. The didnt once look through fog of war afaik as I watched the replay several times. If they were cheating in any way it was due to stream watching as I dont think you have much of a delay on your stream as I used to watch it and I never noticed a delay from when you would make a commercial after a game or comment. I can also cite a time when you felt you lost due to stream watching. All in all this has no tell tail signs of map hacking, unless some of the other players who encountered them post an incriminating replay i would be inclined to say they were not map hacking. This was just cheesy play from three players. I have played against them many times, and this is the first time they've ever encountered my 6 pool, do you honestly think I would have posted this if I didn't have everything already thought out? You can't just post hackers as such especially on TL.net without solid proof. EDIT: Also, with production tab hack you dont need to pan thru the FoW. | ||
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chiefcll
United States4 Posts
Your Name: Chief Hacker Name: ClubGlam Replay: http://drop.sc/26337 Description: Maphacking http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2396420/1/ClubGlam/ No scout, built proxy pylon outside my base and 2 gates... Watch his player cam to see him clearly looking at what I was doing in my base. Never goes up there but sends zealots right in. Oh right, this is on the new Antiga Shipyard (4 random spawns) | ||
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Lamabot
32 Posts
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Italianstallion
United States21 Posts
On August 11 2011 15:08 Tassy wrote: Server: NA Your Name: Tassadar Hacker Name: Lone Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=226012 Description: At 13:20 into the game, there is a dropship incoming to the red terran base (Lone's ally). For some reason which I believe are maphack, Lone pulls backs most of his army from the watchtower in the middle, even though he has no sight, nor has anything that could have told him the ennemy was about to pull off a drop then just sits in his ally base till the drops occurs, then leaves back and go into the middle. The army movement is so sudden and seems to have absolutely no reason that it seems to be maphack to me. This refers to: •Reactions to the army when it is under fog (this one is tricky though, as there is often a decent excuse for the hacker's army movement, for example, moving to take a XN tower, moving to secure a third, moving to threaten an expo, positioning the army better, etc. For this to be solid evidence, there should be no obvious goal for the army movement other than a reaction to what is seen via maphack.) Hey this is Lone, I have been made aware that I'm being accused of being a hacker. I can assure you I was not hacking this game, my reason for having an army in my allies base is simple. If u noticed we had them contained in there base and my ally was doing a drop i was merely protecting my ally as he was doing an aggressive drop we had expo advantage and had them contained drops was the only option there team had.thanks for taking your time to read this. Im willing to fully co-operate with any further investigation. Keep me updated, thank you ~Lone | ||
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