EPTbut i wouldn't want to press it by mistake (>_<)
To the point. It was stupid of steelseries and Grubby to promote it this way. It makes people believe that it isn't illegal.
Grubby promotes macro cheating? - Page 5
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
but i wouldn't want to press it by mistake (>_<) To the point. It was stupid of steelseries and Grubby to promote it this way. It makes people believe that it isn't illegal. | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:38 Marcus420 wrote: talk about misleading title. how is it misleading? using macro's is cheating, grubby makes a video promoting it. He would've had a chance to say no and he didn't. If he cares more about money than the rules of the game, he's not better than a hacker. | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
This is a complete non-issue. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Cuiu
Germany410 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:32 arb wrote: this post is so full of knowledge i dont know where to begin. Its cheating because using anything to do more than 1 seperate thing at a time = cheating in blizz ToS example = 1 button trains 9 marines, instead of you hitting a 9 times thats cheating in blizz ToS and when you have just 1/2/3 rax? your macro is so intelligent to just produce 1 for each rax? and what is when you want 3 marauder and 3 marines but the next time only 2 marauder and 4marines macros are fucking useless you are much more worse with than without | ||
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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:40 Kiante wrote: how is it misleading? using macro's is cheating, grubby makes a video promoting it. He would've had a chance to say no and he didn't. If he cares more about money than the rules of the game, he's not better than a hacker. i think i may have read the title wrong first, but it comes off as calling grubby a cheater/hacker. Thats what i meant. even im pretty bad at this game and dont see how macro's would help you get any better. its not like macros give you a ridiculous and unfair advantage, like a map hack which alot make it sound like. If anything, blame SteelSeries, and not grubby. | ||
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Dwelf
Netherlands365 Posts
The example of how to 'Counter' a pending mutalisk attack is just hilarious cause its probably even smarter to just handpick the units you wanna make instead of some preset bunch of units. If you dont have the gas/minerals for the units then it doesn't even make them, for example if you macro your marines to come out before the thors, and you really want thors but then have no cash for thors, your macro actually didn't help you atall. Macro's are for lazy people not for cheaters. | ||
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Klaas
Slovenia86 Posts
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maJes
United Kingdom186 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:40 Mikilatov wrote: He's promoting his sponsor, and there's a disclaimer. You know who else fully supports and licenses products that have macro commands? Blizzard themselves. Take a look at the Razer SC2 keyboard. A major feature of the keyboard is that it records macros on the fly, and is a DIRECT Starcraft 2 product endorsed by Blizzard. This is a complete non-issue. The crucial difference is that Blizzard don't promote the macros for use in their games (just take a look at the wording on the feature). From the sounds of it (can't watch as at work) Grubby is directly promoting the use of the product for things which are against the TOS, so I would assume it is an issue. | ||
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TMOUllrich
England59 Posts
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001143 | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:41 Bloodash wrote: I don't get it, whom is this marketed towards? Idiots? even using this on ladder can get you banned as far as I know, Grub you better get a big sum of $$$ for this because its not exactly great PR... Blizzard doesn't monitor keystrokes so how would they know you are using a macro keyboard. This is more a matter of taste amongst players using this than Blizzard giving a crap. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Gurgl
Sweden308 Posts
Alot of gaminggear is overrated but noobs buy what the pros use apparently which is good for esports. Most progamers use whatever gaminggear their sponsors want them to use as long as it's not terrible, you can get used to most stuff. | ||
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Samhax
1054 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:40 Kiante wrote: how is it misleading? using macro's is cheating, grubby makes a video promoting it. He would've had a chance to say no and he didn't. If he cares more about money than the rules of the game, he's not better than a hacker. It's misleading because if i knew what was the content of the op, i would never check it. "Cheat" is a strong word, you can't use it like it's not a big deal, the Title is clearly attacking Grubby for something completely in my eyes "minor"; It is minor because everybody knows in competitive play macro are not allowed. And Blizzard can't do nothing about people using macros in a non competitive environement i.e ladder for example. So for me this op is bad. | ||
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namedplayer
844 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:42 TMOUllrich wrote: Why is everyone refusing to acknowledge that Blizzard promotes the keyboards ?!?!? http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001143 Likely because you didn't read the thread and missed the dozens of other people saying the same thing. The difference is that macro keys can be used anywhere. They could be used in Windows for every day tasks. What Blizzard doesn't do is say "here are macro keys that you can use to cheat in our game", which is essentially what the SteelSeries/Grubby ad is. Macro keys are a multiuse utility that are banned in some circumstances. SteelSeries is promoting it in one of those banned circumstances. There are hundreds of products in the real world you could relate it to. | ||
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Champi
1422 Posts
as far as grubby is concerned, he is just doing what he is paid to do for his sponsors, and knowing the professional and manner individual grubby is, would not use this himself, so think twice before u point the finger of blame | ||
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breakingties
United Kingdom72 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:40 emythrel wrote: the select idol workers one can be done with 1 key anyways right? Isn't that hotkey programmable within the game itself? ctrl+f1 | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On June 10 2011 00:42 TMOUllrich wrote: Why is everyone refusing to acknowledge that Blizzard promotes the keyboards ?!?!? http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001143 Blizzard does not promote the use of macros in SC2 : "The custom keyset for StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ offers players dedicated short-cut keys, complete key remapping for full keyset customization " They mention in the first paragraph that the keyboard has the ability for macro keys but don't promote their usage in SC2. (Now I am completely agree that this isn't a too lucky way to promote the keyboard but still its a difference) | ||
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