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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:23:25
June 09 2011 15:23 GMT
#41
On June 10 2011 00:20 trancey_ wrote:
it's grubbys job, not his problem if someone gets banned for cheating.



they are using grubbys image to sell their product

doesnt it make sense that people are then pissed with grubby if they get banned? the average person who doesnt really visit TL and just remembers grubby from playing wc3 might buy it because of this advert, and thats grubbys fault
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6174 Posts
June 09 2011 15:23 GMT
#42
On June 10 2011 00:08 s.a.y wrote:
The comments in the page tell the story. It's illegal and stupid, you only get banned for using such software.

Poor move by Steelseries. Guess i'll buy a Razer next.

razer keyboard also have macro key just dont use them
n_n
RmpL
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:25:24
June 09 2011 15:24 GMT
#43
On June 10 2011 00:21 Kiante wrote:
Don't know why people think grubby is innocent in this. Its not like its not obvious this wouldn't be allowed in sc2. he read the script, he speaks english. He knew exactly what he was saying. if he's happy enough to say this for money, what happens when someone offers him money to lose games. Really, seems like a pretty simple fucking stepping stone right here.


Thats BS, maybe he shouldnt have done it, but to get to where youre going is bad.

Its not like using those macros will make you a freaking god in this game. It gives you a litle advantage, if at all.

And to tall those Steelseries haters, there are more keyboards out there that let you use Macros besides the one in the video ..
Cuiu
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:29:37
June 09 2011 15:24 GMT
#44
this is a tutorial how to use it
nobody says you should use it

there are many tutorials in the internet like for bombs drugs etc.
so whats the deal?
do you think a player who uses a macro to sent some units around
is going to steal your ladder points or win a tournament with?

almost every keyboard has macro keys and when not you can use some programs to have some

stop QQ pls

maybe i should buy this and than i will be for sure the next mkp
give me a break
CheeC[h]
Profile Joined August 2009
United States137 Posts
June 09 2011 15:25 GMT
#45
what on earth.. did steal series and grubby have a massive brain fart or something? ya grubby might not condone cheating, i think its unfair to say that from this video he does condone it. we dont know what his sponsorship requires from him or what he was thinking. However grubby is a great guy, has an insane amount of fans competitive or not and when a pro player fakes or gives a tutorial on how to go about cheating or using hardware that would facilitate what some would call cheating there is no excuse. why do such a thing? huge fail on everyone involved
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
June 09 2011 15:26 GMT
#46
Does the Steelseries shift come with a free copy of Starcraft 2 if you purchase it? On a serious note Steelseries makes good products shame this isn't one of their better ones unless you like to basically cheat.
There's no S in KT. :P
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
June 09 2011 15:26 GMT
#47
On June 10 2011 00:22 Yannosh wrote:
Really dissapointing by both Grubby and Steelseries.

Lol @ being dissapointed cause of this movie... how to make a mountain out of a mole-hill
i came i saw i conquered
shalafi
Profile Joined July 2008
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:30:11
June 09 2011 15:27 GMT
#48
To everyone bashing the macros, you know that there are blizzard-sponsored sc2-themed macro keyboards, right?


And Razer too (for those saying "I'll buy razer"... lol...)

http://www.razerzone.com/sc2/en/marauder

"[...]Enhanced with a dedicated on-the-fly macro recording system[...]"


-_____________-
barkles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:30:51
June 09 2011 15:27 GMT
#49
The thread title is a bit too strongly worded in my opinion. I would bet that Grubby, rather than being approached by Steelseries and asked to do this ad, was contractually obligated by Steelseries (his main sponsor) to film commercials and was probably told that he MUST do the ad, regardless of content. If anything, the title should be "Steelseries promotes cheating?"

On June 10 2011 00:21 Kiante wrote:
Don't know why people think grubby is innocent in this. Its not like its not obvious this wouldn't be allowed in sc2. he read the script, he speaks english. He knew exactly what he was saying. if he's happy enough to say this for money, what happens when someone offers him money to lose games. Really, seems like a pretty simple fucking stepping stone right here.



But what if he was given the choice of filming the commercial or violating his contract with his sponsor? I highly doubt he was given the opportunity to turn this commercial down.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 09 2011 15:28 GMT
#50
guess it's really satisfied beating your friend with this device lol
try improving with a 108-keyboard, that's how we gamers do it
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 09 2011 15:28 GMT
#51
Lol @ the sensationalist topic name
WriterXiao8~~
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
June 09 2011 15:28 GMT
#52
Steelseries: Helping you win games you don't deserve.
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
June 09 2011 15:28 GMT
#53
grubby probably had to advertise it as he is being sponsored, you think a pro doesnt know whats illegal in a game he plays professionally?
maJes
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom186 Posts
June 09 2011 15:29 GMT
#54
On June 10 2011 00:27 shalafi wrote:
To everyone bashing the macros, you know that there are blizzard-sponsored sc2-themed macro keyboards, right?


'Blizzard sponsored' doesn't mean an awful lot really.

The Logitech G15 was 'official' for WoW, yet there were still people banned for botting/automation using the macro engine built into the keyboard.
BE'YENNEH......YAOWRL.....
XdtA
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia88 Posts
June 09 2011 15:29 GMT
#55
Blizzard sells SC2 macro keyboards.

http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001142
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
June 09 2011 15:29 GMT
#56
On June 10 2011 00:22 Zrana wrote:
Somewhere, all those game product companies got the idea that macro keys are something that players want.... has anyone ever used them? (not including rebinding to single keypresses)

I have tried it on my g11. It was completely useless (especially for protoss).

I doubt even diamond players with bad macro would benefit at all from using them.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
June 09 2011 15:29 GMT
#57
Razers Starcraft 2 series of hardware have these macros as well
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
June 09 2011 15:29 GMT
#58
On June 10 2011 00:27 barkles wrote:
The thread title is a bit too strongly worded in my opinion. I would bet that Grubby, rather than being approached by Steelseries and asked to do this ad, was contractually obligated by Steelseries (his main sponsor) to film commercials and was probably told that he MUST do the ad, regardless of content. If anything, the title should be "Steelseries promotes cheating?"

If Grubby signed a contract that actually requires him to say literally any words that steelseries ask him to say, then he is incompetent at negotiating his sponsorship agreements and really, really shouldn't be running his own team.

It's maybe worth noting that anyone who posted a tutorial on how to do this on TL would I believe be banned instantly.
Leoneri
Profile Joined July 2010
United States67 Posts
June 09 2011 15:29 GMT
#59
On June 10 2011 00:19 Chronald wrote:
Makes me lol that SteelSeries didn't read the EULA or ToS for SC2, this is clearly against them and will get you banned.

Advertise this for WoW or LoL but not for a game that will ban you for using it...

I'm fairly sure almost any reputable online game out there right now will ban you for using equipment that will give you multiple button presses per one button. I know at the very least WoW will ban you, as it is another Blizzard game, but I'm fairly sure LoL would too.

That being said I'm not completely convinced of Grubby being at fault here. He isn't only doing it just because they'll pay him, but because you can't really tell your sponsor no and expect them to keep supporting you while you don't support them, and e-sports isn't at the point yet where people can just deny a sponsor, teams need all the money they can get right now.
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
June 09 2011 15:30 GMT
#60
On June 10 2011 00:28 optical630 wrote:
grubby probably had to advertise it as he is being sponsored, you think a pro doesnt know whats illegal in a game he plays professionally?


Obviously not, or he would probably have told Steelseries. Based on their replies to the Youtube video they don't even know it is against the ToS to use 3rd party programs or files.
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
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