I don't like how the thread title is slanderous toward Grubby. He is sponsored by Steel Series and has to do promotional stuff like this. If you consider this cheating or against ToS than I suggest you don't buy Razer either.

You can do the same thing on the Razer Starcraft 2 keyboard. That has been out for a long time and I don't think anyone has been banned for using a product branded with the Starcraft II logo.

Sina92

Sweden1303 Posts

June 09 2011 15:17 GMT

#23

I don't think we can put any blame on Grubby himself either, however it would be a pity if he began doing anything for money.

Zhiroo

Kosovo2724 Posts

June 09 2011 15:17 GMT

#24

Definitely change the thread title. It's not Grubby who promotes it, it's SteelSeries.

resilve

United Kingdom678 Posts

June 09 2011 15:17 GMT

#25

Why bring Grubbys' name into disrepute? There is no question at all that he cheats, condones it or any such thing.

Have a go at steelseries if you find such a keyboard problematic.

WallieP

Netherlands425 Posts

June 09 2011 15:18 GMT

#26

Kinda much QQ from the op, also trying to give Grubby a bad name. Read the fucking disclaimer, he doesnt use it. If someone asks me to make a movie for some cash, sure.. like everyone. Kinda a lame threat this is.

BTW does this site also have a report button to repot stupid posts like this? Or is it just wait and hope a mod sees it?

EndOfTime88

Austria259 Posts

June 09 2011 15:19 GMT

#27

It's kind of embarrassing Steel series is even keeping this vid up. Even with the disclaimer, it still makes them seem clueless because it's not allowed outside of competitive play due to TOS.

aristarchus

United States652 Posts

June 09 2011 15:19 GMT

#28

On June 10 2011 00:14 s.a.y wrote:
Nobody is blaming Grubby, the faulty part is on SteelSeries side.

I'm blaming Grubby, and I think some others are too. These things are against the terms of service. The disclaimer is wrong - they're illegal in any play of starcraft 2, whether it's a competitive tournament, ladder, campaign, whatever. Celebrities don't make any commercial anyone offers to pay them for... They're expected to have some editorial discretion and not endorse things that are harmful, illegal, unethical, etc. Fans (rightly) hold it against them when they do otherwise, and that's why professional athletes and so forth are usually so careful about it.

Chronald

United States619 Posts

June 09 2011 15:19 GMT

#29

Makes me lol that SteelSeries didn't read the EULA or ToS for SC2, this is clearly against them and will get you banned.

Advertise this for WoW or LoL but not for a game that will ban you for using it...

Cowish

8 Posts

June 09 2011 15:20 GMT

#30

As previously posted, you are allowed to make macros to essentially rearrange your keyboard layout.

For example, if you have a macro-keyboard, there will be additional keys on it,

You could bind control, alt, or 1-9 to one of those keys and it would be perfectly fine. It's not cheating unless you make it cheating.

MassacrisM

United Kingdom149 Posts

June 09 2011 15:20 GMT

#31

I have no idea what this keyboard is for. Easier macro for playing campaign and AI ?

What a stupid product.

trancey_

Germany729 Posts

June 09 2011 15:20 GMT

#32

it's grubbys job, not his problem if someone gets banned for cheating.

Australia1651 Posts

June 09 2011 15:21 GMT

#33

whilst this is a less than ideal move from Steelseries.

but i cant help but admire Grubby just captivated by his speech etc.. lol ♥ it

Kiante

Australia7069 Posts

June 09 2011 15:21 GMT

#34

Don't know why people think grubby is innocent in this. Its not like its not obvious this wouldn't be allowed in sc2. he read the script, he speaks english. He knew exactly what he was saying. if he's happy enough to say this for money, what happens when someone offers him money to lose games. Really, seems like a pretty simple fucking stepping stone right here.

Sina92

Sweden1303 Posts

June 09 2011 15:21 GMT

#35

I will not change the title. The definition of promote can be found here.

Steelseries are not forcing Grubby to promote their merchandise, he is doing it by free will.

I have followed Grubby for a long time and love him as much as you do, though it seems my love is not blind...

Samhax

1054 Posts

June 09 2011 15:22 GMT

#36

Spectacular Title to attract more attention. It reminds me bad newspapers who try to attract more customers with titles like that instead of making good articles. Fail op is fail.

User was warned for this post

Kralic

Canada2628 Posts

June 09 2011 15:22 GMT

#37

On June 10 2011 00:21 Sina92 wrote:
I will not change the title. The definition of promote can be found here.

Steelseries are not forcing Grubby to promote their merchandise, he is doing it by free will.

I have followed Grubby for a long time and love him as much as you do, though it seems my love is not blind...

You do know Steelseries is paying his salary so he can continue to be a progamer right?

Yannosh

Belgium93 Posts

June 09 2011 15:22 GMT

#38

As a rational human sc2 profile, grubby should NEVER have accepted this commercial in the first place. Really dissapointing by both Grubby and Steelseries.

TBO

Germany1350 Posts

June 09 2011 15:22 GMT

#39

On June 10 2011 00:20 trancey_ wrote:
it's grubbys job, not his problem if someone gets banned for cheating.

I don't know if Blizzard will ever ban anyone for use of macros (I'd imagine if they did it would be temporary bans only) and maybe Steelseries consulted Blizzard before putting up this video, but the potential backlash if a few thousand users get banned for what Steelseries recommended them would ensue a nifty source of entertainment.

Zrana

United Kingdom698 Posts

June 09 2011 15:22 GMT

#40

Somewhere, all those game product companies got the idea that macro keys are something that players want.... has anyone ever used them? (not including rebinding to single keypresses)