EPTOn April 28 2011 01:09 muffley wrote:
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Hilarious.
Hilarious.
I can now sleep with a smile on my face, thanks!
President Obama Releases Long Form Birth Cert. - Page 18
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Faria
155 Posts
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:11 Sabu113 wrote: What's entertaining about the current american "debate" is that it is difficult to tell whether that is a troll or not. Any sufficiently advanced wingnuttery is indistinguishable from parody. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:50 Coraz wrote: + Show Spoiler + They released an image just like this 2 years ago, it was also a cetification of live birth and not a birth certificate. its not like you can convince anyone on a starcraft forum.. if I wrote a 30 page essay it wouldn't matter Obama is right when he says we have bigger issues to focus on.... like the engineered depression, the illegal creation of chimeras, the unification of the middle east against israel (and obama's illegal war on libya for which he must be immediately impeached), the takeover of genetically modified and dangerous species, evisceration of the rule of law in our country, the sidestepping of the constitution, the list goes on forevs Barack Hussein Obama Barack Hussein in arabic means with the blessing of Husayn (a muslim martyr) O Ba Ma means He Is With Us some shiite clerics and scholars believe Obama is the manifestation of the third Imam's prophecy foretelling of a warrior who will come to weaken the Western world and make the way for its subjugation by Allah (Sharia law). If you recall the elections, CNN heralded obama as "the messiah," I forget who else but probably Time magazine or some other publication on that level was calling him the chosen one and the prophet. In conclusion, his mother wasn't old enough to grant him natural born citizenship, and his father is a citizen of Kenya, which at the time was a british protectorate. At best, he's a naturalized American citizen, and at worst he is a dual citizen of america and indonesia, where his adoptive father naturalized him so he could attend school in Nationalist Indonesia. Never before in American history has the country known so little about its president That's quite the list you have there. You guys can't seem to catch a break.. :/ | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:32 Signet wrote: No, factually speaking Obama also had to show his to be considered for the electoral college. Fictionally speaking, Obama was the unique one in not needing to show his to be considered. Many people are confused by the fact that the literal title of the document is "Certificate of Live Birth" rather than "Birth Certificate". Hawaii literally does not issue "Birth Certificates," the "Certificate of Live Birth" is the title of their state's birth document... that's just the way their State handles things. Perhaps people who are confused by this should lobby for the Federal government to take over the States' role of issuing proof of their residents' birth, that way there could be one national form? Can't tell if being intentionally ironic. Would be incredibly funny, though. The same people who believe they are the sole advocates of State's Rights suddenly find a snag in their beloved ideology and request that the Federal government take control to avoid it again. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:32 Signet wrote: No, factually speaking Obama also had to show his to be considered for the electoral college. Fictionally speaking, Obama was the unique one in not needing to show his to be considered. Many people are confused by the fact that the literal title of the document is "Certificate of Live Birth" rather than "Birth Certificate". Hawaii literally does not issue "Birth Certificates," the "Certificate of Live Birth" is the title of their state's birth document... that's just the way their State handles things. Perhaps people who are confused by this should lobby for the Federal government to take over the States' role of issuing proof of their residents' birth, that way there could be one national form? Bush and Clinton both showed their Birth certificate to the electoral college. Obama showed his certificate of live birth. The electoral college has nothing to do with states. Please learn what you're talking about. What you are saying about birth certificates and certificates of live birth is also incorrect. If the Birth Certifcate isn't actually created, explain how is has signitures that aren't present on the Certificate of live birth, along with information that isn't present on the Certificate of live birth. Are you saying that the release Birth Certificate is a fraud? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/13/bobirthcertificate.jpg http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/o-birthcertlong.png | ||
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Believer
Sweden212 Posts
On April 28 2011 01:12 MangoTango wrote: Conspiracy theories: they can never be slain. Now the evidence will be too perfect and clearly faked. No amount of evidence can ever put a true believer to bed. You rang? Seriously though I think it's a good thing. This was getting way bigger than it should have. It's an incredibly stupid law to begin with, but let's put that aside. From what I understand you have to provide the same document to even be allowed to go in office? Were there seriously people who believed someone cheated with this? True believers heh.. Wow. | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:46 hifriend wrote: That's quite the list you have there. You guys can't seem to catch a break.. :/ Clearly we need Obama to release a certificate proving he isn't an ancient reborn Muslim sorcerer creating chimeras. I think it's pretty suspicious that he hasn't done anything to quell these very serious concerns. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:46 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Bush and Clinton both showed their Birth certificate to the electoral college. Obama showed his certificate of live birth. The electoral college has nothing to do with states. Please learn what you're talking about. What you are saying about birth certificates and certificates of live birth is also incorrect. If the Birth Certifcate isn't actually created, explain how is has signitures that aren't present on the Certificate of live birth, along with information that isn't present on the Certificate of live birth. Are you saying that the release Birth Certificate is a fraud? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/13/bobirthcertificate.jpg http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/o-birthcertlong.png Except that, as far as the State of Hawaii, and the Federal Government are concerned, a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is equally as good as a Birth Certificate from Texas, or a Birth Certificate from Akansas. Note the words 'prima facie' at the bottom of the Certificate of Live Birth. | ||
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Highways
Australia6105 Posts
I mean who gives a shit about the royal wedding, it has no relavance to the real world anymore. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:48 Hinanawi wrote: Clearly we need Obama to release a certificate proving he isn't an ancient reborn Muslim sorcerer creating chimeras. I think it's pretty suspicious that he hasn't done anything to quell these very serious concerns. I actually sent some people to investigate this and you would not believe what they found. | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:51 Bibdy wrote: Except that, as far as the State of Hawaii, and the Federal Government are concerned, a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is equally as good as a Birth Certificate from Texas, or a Birth Certificate from Akansas. Note the words 'prima facie' at the bottom of the Certificate of Live Birth. I never said there was a difference in the legitimacy between the two documents. There is a difference between the information on them (which doesn't matter). | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:54 Archerofaiur wrote: I actually sent some people to investigate this and you would not believe what they found. He is actually a descendent of the prince of persia and can be seen doing parkour around the whitehouse and playing with the sands of time. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On April 28 2011 01:09 muffley wrote: Hilarious. If you listen really hard, you can hear the brain screaming in anguish... | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:46 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Bush and Clinton both showed their Birth certificate to the electoral college. Obama showed his certificate of live birth. The electoral college has nothing to do with states. Please learn what you're talking about. Slow down. I said the birth certificates were issued by the states, not that the states determine presidential eligibility. That said, the electoral college certainly has a lot to do with states. Each state is allowed to choose its own electors according to state law, and the elections themselves are administered by the state (within the bounds of federal definitions of voting rights). That's why Maine and Nebraska are allowed to distribute their electoral votes differently than the rest of the nation. Colorado considered changing their method of electoral vote allocation in 2004, but the voters rejected that ballot initiative. Please, learn what YOU are talking about. What you are saying about birth certificates and certificates of live birth is also incorrect. If the Birth Certifcate isn't actually created, explain how is has signitures that aren't present on the Certificate of live birth, along with information that isn't present on the Certificate of live birth. Are you saying that the release Birth Certificate is a fraud? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/13/bobirthcertificate.jpg http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/o-birthcertlong.png You just showed pictures demonstrating what I was talking about. Neither of those says "Birth Certificate." They say "Certification of Live Birth" and "Certificate of Live Birth." One of the main birther criticisms has been that Obama has released his certification/certificate of live birth, but not his birth certificate, which they claim is different. | ||
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Sanctimonius
United Kingdom861 Posts
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/25/barack-obama-donaldtrump According to the birthers' interpretations of the contritution, McCain would not have counted as eligible for the presidency if he had won. Awesome. It really saddens me that the politics of the most powerful nation on earth is dominated by such obviously stupid things. He released a birth certificate (the kind released by Hawai'i, which was good enough for the state department and every person who investigated, but not enough for everyone who refused to believe simply because....well, he looks forrin, doesn't he?). Hawai'i repeatedly stated he was born there. So why were people still riding this pathetic attempt to oust Obama? To believe he was born in Indonesia or Kenya required such a leap of faith, yet people were clinging to that in the vague hope they could say Obama was illegitimate and his office was void. Is it really that important to you that he should be foreign? If it was, maybe you really need to look at yourself and ask why. Thankfully the vast majority of people on TL actually have brain cells to rub together and believed the facts from the start. Keep it up TL - ahead of over 40% of Republicans! | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:45 Faria wrote: I can now sleep with a smile on my face, thanks! Oh my god hahahahahaha. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:46 Bibdy wrote: Can't tell if being intentionally ironic. Would be incredibly funny, though. The same people who believe they are the sole advocates of State's Rights suddenly find a snag in their beloved ideology and request that the Federal government take control to avoid it again. Then again, one of the goals of conservatives is to make government just small enough to fit it inside your bedroom. Apparantly you can only enjoy freedom in ways marked appropriate by social conservatives in the US, and this even goes for some of the more extreme libertarians (Rand Paul anyone :/) For some reason in American politics, you really don't need a coherent ideological message. Goes for both sides of the isle equally, it's just more obvious on the republican side. | ||
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:46 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Bush and Clinton both showed their Birth certificate to the electoral college. Obama showed his certificate of live birth. I can't believe people are still making this argument. States have different titles on their birth certificates. Mine (Michigan) says "Certificate of Live Birth". Some say "Certificate of Birth Registration", or "Standard Certificate of Birth" or a dozen other variations. They're all birth certificates! It's like saying a plank of lumber isn't a wooden plank. I don't know how somebody could actually understand the English language and think this argument makes sense. | ||
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