• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:42
CEST 01:42
KST 08:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?6FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event13Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster14Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week4
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29) WardiTV Mondays SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event $200 Biweekly - StarCraft Evolution League #1
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest ASL20 Preliminary Maps Unit and Spell Similarities
Tourneys
[BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague LB Final - Saturday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Blog #2
tankgirl
Game Sound vs. Music: The Im…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 603 users

President Obama Releases Long Form Birth Cert.

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 25 26 27 Next All
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:37:50
April 27 2011 16:06 GMT
#1
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hZFgg7xUDD1Z6DNk2TJd2ztFnnsw?docId=84576899a8024f1d8050604741af2810

Obama releases birth form, decries 'silliness'
(AP) – 2 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Responding to critics' relentless claims, President Barack Obama on Wednesday produced a detailed Hawaii birth certificate in an extraordinary attempt to bury the issue of where he was born and confirm his legitimacy to hold office. He declared, "We do not have time for this kind of silliness."
By going on national TV from the White House, Obama portrayed himself as a voice of reason amid a loud, lingering debate on his birth status. Though his personal attention to the issue elevated it as never before, Obama said to Republican detractors and the media, it is time to move on to bigger issues.
Citing huge budget decisions in Washington, Obama said, "I am confident that the American people and America's political leaders can come together in a bipartisan way and solve these problems. We always have. But we're not going to be able to do it if we are distracted."
Obama spoke shortly after the White House released a copy of the long form of his birth certificate, which contains more extensive data than a version released earlier.
The certificate says Obama was born to an American mother and Kenyan father, in Hawaii, which makes him eligible to hold the office of president. Obama released a standard short form before he was elected in 2008 but requested copies of his original birth certificate from Hawaii officials this week in hopes of quieting the controversy.
Until Wednesday, the White House had insisted that the short form certificate was the appropriate legal document confirming Obama's birth and no further proof was needed.
But so-called "birthers" opposed to Obama have kept the issue alive. Potential Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump recently began questioning why Obama hadn't ensured the long form was released.
From New Hampshire, Trump took credit for getting Obama to act.
"He should have done it a long time ago. I am really honored to play such a big role in hopefully, hopefully getting rid of this issue," Trump said.
Polls show large numbers of Republicans have continued to doubt Obama is a natural born citizen eligible to be president. Trump has seized on the issue as he weighs a GOP candidacy.
While Obama and White House officials avoided mentioning Trump by name, officials said they released the birth certificate partially because the issue had moved beyond fringe discussion, and Obama criticized a media culture that had not let the story go.
"This issue has been going on for two, two and a half years now. I think it started during the campaign," Obama said. "I have watched with bemusement, I've been puzzled at the degree at which this thing just kept on going."
"We're not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers," the president said.
He did not take any questions and did not say why the document had not been released earlier.
Many Republican leaders have sought to distance themselves from the "birther" theory as a discredited notion not worthy of national public debate.
In a statement after Obama spoke, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus called the issue a distraction — and yet blamed Obama for playing campaign politics by addressing it.
"The president ought to spend his time getting serious about repairing our economy," Priebus said. "Unfortunately his campaign politics and talk about birth certificates is distracting him from our number one priority — our economy."
The newly released certificate is signed by the delivery doctor, Obama's mother and the local registrar. His mother, then 18, signed her name (Stanley) Ann Dunham Obama.
The form says Barack Hussein Obama II was born at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, within the city limits of Honolulu.
There's no mention of religion. It says his father, Barack Hussein Obama, age 25, was African and born in Kenya and his mother was Caucasian and born in Wichita, Kan. Obama's mother and the doctor signed the certificate on Aug. 7 and 8.
Hawaii's registrar certified the new photocopy of the document provided to the White House on April 25, 2011.
The White House also released a letter from the president on April 22 requesting two certified copies of his original certificate of live birth. Also released was a letter from Loretta Fuddy, Hawaii's director of health, approving the request.
The president's personal counsel, Judith Corley, traveled to Hawaii to pick up the documents and carried them back to Washington on a plane. The documents arrived at the White House around 5 p.m. Tuesday.
AP White House Correspondent Ben Feller contributed to this story.
Copyright © 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


View Long Form Birth Certificate
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Finally. For myself, I had been curious when this issue was first brought up during the election mostly because of him refusing to respond, but now that he has released a long form, unless an expert can prove it's a fake, everyone can now shut up about the issue.

As for the arizona law, I don't think there's anything wrong with requiring a birth certificate as a requirement to be considered for candidacy since it will stop this kind of thing from happening again.

Edit: People calling Americans idiots doesn't really help the thread. I think discussion about the birth requirements, and the political implications of obama's speech are more interesting and help the discussion instead.


Need an obligatory Poll
Now that Obama has released the certificate, where do you stand?
Poll: What do you think of this information?

I never doubted it in the first place (906)
 
89%

I still believe it's a fake (87)
 
9%

I had some doubts, but now I'm sure. (21)
 
2%

I didn't believe it until now (9)
 
1%

1023 total votes

Your vote: What do you think of this information?

(Vote): I never doubted it in the first place
(Vote): I had some doubts, but now I'm sure.
(Vote): I didn't believe it until now
(Vote): I still believe it's a fake




Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
April 27 2011 16:07 GMT
#2
Wait, there were people who truly believe he was lying about his birth certificate?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
April 27 2011 16:09 GMT
#3
[image loading]

Hilarious.
StateSC2
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 16:12:16
April 27 2011 16:12 GMT
#4
On April 28 2011 01:09 muffley wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hilarious.


Is that real? LOL
Fireblast!: "This guy is pointless and wonderful"
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
April 27 2011 16:12 GMT
#5
Conspiracy theories: they can never be slain. Now the evidence will be too perfect and clearly faked. No amount of evidence can ever put a true believer to bed.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 27 2011 16:14 GMT
#6
I don't even know why he did this, anyone thinking he wasn't born in the united states won't change their mind no matter what he does... cause theyre fucking crazy.
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
April 27 2011 16:15 GMT
#7
On April 28 2011 01:12 MangoTango wrote:
Conspiracy theories: they can never be slain. Now the evidence will be too perfect and clearly faked. No amount of evidence can ever put a true believer to bed.

Yeah that's the hilarious/disheartening part. Ultimately, if someone was actually convinced that Obama was not American-born, no amount of documentation will convince him or her otherwise, even though documentation is exactly what they've been clamoring for.

I feel pretty bad for Obama that he felt like he had to release this information.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 27 2011 16:15 GMT
#8
doesn't matter. people will deny and deny regardless how much legitimate proof you show them.
Forever Young
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
April 27 2011 16:16 GMT
#9
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate
Makes it seem like he actually had to make the Hawai administration make a long term birth certificate for him since normally citizens of Hawai don't get them just to shut nut jobs up.
Maybe that can be the conspiracy theorists new angle Since he has a "birth certificate" that no other citizen of Hawai has then its clearly fake and he is actually kenyan.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
April 27 2011 16:18 GMT
#10
This makes me sad... where is the birth certificate of clinton or bush?
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
April 27 2011 16:18 GMT
#11
I blame the Trump for this. Sigh.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 16:19:24
April 27 2011 16:19 GMT
#12
No offence americans but I'm beginning to hate republicans more and more, they weren't always soulless assholes who could never win an argument without having a monologue or slander their opponent.

But this is fucking appalling, how the hell can anyone tolerate their own president having to defend himself against such retarded and indignifying falsehoods.

Can the USA fail already so we can all learn Chinese and join the Chinese collective -_-
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
April 27 2011 16:20 GMT
#13
Haha Trump thinks this is his accomplishment lol
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
April 27 2011 16:20 GMT
#14
On April 28 2011 01:12 State wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 01:09 muffley wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hilarious.


Is that real? LOL

It's sad you have to ask.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 27 2011 16:22 GMT
#15
You fucking kidding me? I haven't been watching the news lately, but this shit is still going on? I thought this ended after the election was over.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 27 2011 16:22 GMT
#16
On April 28 2011 01:07 VIB wrote:
Wait, there were people who truly believe he was lying about his birth certificate?


yeah...i cant believe the OP doubted. how can you doubt facts? lol

there was already proof beforehand....
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 16:23:33
April 27 2011 16:23 GMT
#17
where's the "does it even matter?" option?
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
eight.BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States240 Posts
April 27 2011 16:24 GMT
#18
Keep in mind the people who are doubting him have been doubting him for the past 3+ years. It's not like any proof is going to change their minds..
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 16:25:51
April 27 2011 16:25 GMT
#19
I can't believe Obama actually released this. It's absolutely ridiculous that there was so much pressure for this to happen. What he released previously is enough proof for the federal government. Like others have said, the fact that the long form has finally been released isn't going to detract those doubters. There are just going to be more excuses.

On April 28 2011 01:06 darmousseh wrote:
As for the arizona law, I don't think there's anything wrong with requiring a birth certificate as a requirement to be considered for candidacy since it will stop this kind of thing from happening again.

Yes, there isn't anything wrong with that. At the federal level. The issue people are having is that the law is an Arizona law. It's pretty ridiculous that a presidential candidate would have to show proof to the federal government to run and then show it to Arizona to be put on the Arizona ballot. And the Arizona law isn't going to stop this sort of shenanigans from happening again.

Suppose that a presidential candidate doesn't provide proof to the state of Arizona and is thus not in the ballot for that state, can that person still continue to run? I mean they can still win the electoral vote without a single state. This would be an interesting situation.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
April 27 2011 16:25 GMT
#20
its fake, but its the white house no one can prove its fake.

User was temp banned for this post.
1 2 3 4 5 25 26 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft424
SteadfastSC 203
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1393
firebathero 89
League of Legends
Grubby3953
Counter-Strike
summit1g9431
taco 912
sgares280
Other Games
Artosis574
JimRising 421
Maynarde164
Pyrionflax154
Mew2King63
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1289
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 55
• davetesta46
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler50
League of Legends
• masondota2792
• Stunt171
Other Games
• imaqtpie1337
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
18m
Wardi Open
11h 18m
PiGosaur Monday
1d
The PondCast
1d 10h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV European League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV European League
3 days
[ Show More ]
FEL
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
FEL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
FEL
5 days
BSL: ProLeague
5 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.