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@ sua1ty
You're lying if you're trying to say "Libtard" is not a commonly used term to describe those outside of a certain conservative realm of beliefs. Stop it.
Furthermore, you think my opinions on health care are comical? Can you even explain to me what the individual mandate is, and what problem it addresses within our health care system? Do you even understand the debate? Do you realize that most economists are in agreement with regard to the cause of the drastic increase and future of healthcare expenditures?
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Well I look like an idiot now.
Yes, I misread it.
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Hey guys. It doesn't matter where he was born. His mom was American. He can be president. Now shut up birthers.
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55 people here still believe it is a fake
or they're trolling...
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On April 28 2011 10:18 Body_Shield wrote:
Well I look like an idiot now.
Yes, I misread it.
Your first point was correct though, Obama's birth certificate (or some version of it at least) has been available for the past 3 years yet still people demand he produces "further evidence".
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On April 28 2011 09:59 sua1ty wrote:Correct. Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 09:53 Jayme wrote:
We elected Bush Jr...whose amazing resume includes being the Governer of Texas...and that's about it. If we're talking about Qualifications Obama has them in spades over several other presidents.
Except the only person that Obama has in spades are you fucking idiots who think that people didnt vote for him "because hes black." O and noone (myself included) said that Bush was amazing, but more cold hard facts for you kids is that Bush was more qualified than Obama. l2r. Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 09:53 Jayme wrote:
Even given what's happened I would still vote Obama over McCain simply because I think McCain would have wrecked the place even worse.
I bet you would, because denial is comforting.
I'm still waiting for those facts you claim to have.
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Falldownmarigold: I have never heard of "Libtard" your making that shit up, so go ahead and stop lying to us, and as a matter of fact: http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/11/news/economy/obama_health_plan_no_bargain.fortune/
the health plan is no bargain. "The lines will grow. And so will the spending, and the taxes. And that's what Obama isn't telling you."
azn_dude1:
"Hey guys. It doesn't matter where he was born. His mom was American. He can be president. Now shut up birthers."
...this is not a surprising comment in the least. Especially since someone, what 2 posts before this? posted the actual requirements... Most people who use the word "Birthers" must have no idea to begin with...
Ok, so I'm done with you trolls, now keep on believing that Obama is doing... anything right, but I'm going to go watch the NASL now.
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On April 28 2011 10:37 TOloseGT wrote:
I'm still waiting for those facts you claim to have.
What facts bro?
EDIT: my reply to this guy will be my last reply because he did manage to beat me to replying.
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On April 28 2011 10:37 sua1ty wrote:
Falldownmarigold: I have never heard of "Libtard" your making that shit up, so go ahead and stop lying to us
I just wanna point out that having just lived in Texas for 3 years I heard those terms all the time. It's strange you haven't really.
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On April 28 2011 10:45 xBillehx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 10:37 sua1ty wrote:
Falldownmarigold: I have never heard of "Libtard" your making that shit up, so go ahead and stop lying to us I just wanna point out that having just lived in Texas for 3 years I heard those terms all the time. It's strange you haven't really.
I find it funny that the same people who came up with Paultard/Losertarian are mad about Libtard. Just ironically funny to me.
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Are you trolling? I'm repeating the retarded semantics argument that birthers make. I don't actually believe the argument. I know the form is legitimate. The short form is what Hawaii is, by law, supposed to issue as proof that the citizen was born in their state. The long form is what they used to give out and, in this case, what Obama specially requested.
I've even seen birthers saying that this new certificate isn't legitimate or isn't quite what they're asking for, because it wasn't the "real" birth certificate given out by the hospital. (I assume now they mean the "record of live birth".) It's an endless game of semantics with them; I'm simply addressing the game they're playing.
Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 09:03 Signet wrote:
Slow down. I said the birth certificates were issued by the states, not that the states determine presidential eligibility. Let’s see what you actually said. Show nested quote + No, factually speaking Obama also had to show his [long form certificate of live birth, also knownw as a Birth Certificate] to be considered for the electoral college. Fictionally speaking, Obama was the unique one in not needing to show his to be considered. Here you clearly said that Obama showed his Birth Certificate [aka long form certificate of live birth], not his Certificate of live Birth [aka short for certificate of live birth] to the electoral college, which is untrue. He showed his Birth Certificate to one media person, who vouches for having seen it, and showed his Certificate of live birth to the electoral college. You also now said “Birth Certificates were issued by the states,” even though you just said not all states issue Birth Certificates (note your anal first sencence I replied to). Your argument is based on saying that Hawaii doesn’t issue birth certificates, but certification of live birth, and then you try to say that birth certificates are issued by the states. You are entirely hypocritical just two paragraphs of your own post.
No, that's not what I was arguing. My argument was that Hawaii doesn’t issue documents with the literal title "birth certificates" but rather "certification of live birth" and "certificate of live birth", and birthers won't accept either of the latter two as legitimate. Even now I'm arguing with one of my Tea Party friends about whether this new certificate is really a birth certificate, or if it has to be the original hand-written form made at the hospital on the day he was born. (I can only wonder what the next excuse would be if he produced that.) So yes, the argument is f*cking ridiculous, but that's not my fault.
When I say that birth certificates are issued by the states, I'm using the (non-quoted) term as a catch all for whatever the state calls the form that is used as evidence that a person was born there. Whether they give it the title "Birth Certificate" or "Certificate of Live Birth" or whatever, I don't care. I guess some people do, but not me.
But at this point it's clear that you aren't interested in discussing the issue, but rather making strawman attacks at some deliberate misinterpretation of my argument (I assume deliberate, because I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that your IQ is greater than 3).
Also, ffs, learn the definition of "hypocritical." Even if your attempted argument was based on a correct interpretation of my argument, it wouldn't show hypocrisy. I think you are trying to show that my argument has an invalid form - that it is self-defeating. But this is not a form of hypocrisy, if anything it would be poor debate skills which isn't really a character issue. It would be hypocritical if, for example, I demanded that Obama show his long form birth certificate to the electoral college, then I ran for president and refused to show mine. If I argued that electoral college determined Obama's eligibility and they didn't, or if I argued that Obama was born in Hawaii and he wasn't, I would be "wrong" or "mistaken." If you are not yet fluent in English (this is an international board, and we have many others who have immigrated to the USA), I don't mean to be harsh about this.
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Falldownmarigold: I have never heard of "Libtard" your making that shit up, so go ahead and stop lying to us, and as a matter of fact:
"I have never heard of it" != "making that shit up".
Do you really have a BA? Community college with a D average perhaps, otherwise your professors should be hanging themselves.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On April 28 2011 10:37 sua1ty wrote:
Ok, so I'm done with you trolls...
...says the guy who registered a new account just so he could anonymously post antagonistic, inflammatory nonsense.
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United States2003 Posts
Where's the option to vote for "who gives a shit"
Seriously, I hate the media
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its funny, does anyone remember when arnold was elected governor there were republicans backing the idea of allowing foreigners the ability to be president.
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On April 28 2011 10:52 redviper wrote:
Do you really have a BA? Community college with a D average perhaps, otherwise your professors should be hanging themselves.
How did you know I had a BA? and last time I checked the University of North Florida was not a D average Community College.
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Again, can anyone explain what the evidence is that Obama was born somewhere else? Where was he born? Kenya?
Again, how did this come up with Obama and not with Clinton or Bush. They never had to show their birth certificate. Why the change of burden of proof?
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At first I thought i had you confused with Coraz and was about to apologize when I realized you are a new account that started posting after Coraz stopped posting. Same writing style, same paranoia, etc etc.
So I know you have a BA because you said so!
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Okay, just making sure because I was about to report that shit to an admin for stalking... lol
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