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Mulletarian
Norway101 Posts
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. -- Albert Einstein Good thing he stuck to math. Nothing has benefited human health, survival and evolution as much as the omnivorous diet. Sorry to perchance derail your thread, but that quote was provocative enough. | ||
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Jank
United States308 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:25 DNB wrote: This goes often both ways I guess. I know lots of vegans with this holier than thou-attitude when they start bashing and arguing against someone who wants to eat a diet with some meat in it. Seriously? Do you even have an idea how much you would have to eat those to get even a slightly significant amount of protein? Beans and tofu are fine, but don't offer the full amino-profile as eggs do. If it's not a problem, eat your eggs bro. Tofu and soy-protein in general offers a pretty damn good amino profile, actually. There's 8 essential amino acids (there are 20, but your body can synthesize the other 12) Soybeans offers all of them, along with red meat and ... a few other things. Also Black beans for life <3 | ||
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:32 Ender985 wrote: So I have a question for you vegans/vegetarians, that I always wanted to ask but never had the opportunity: What about mushrooms? What about mushrooms? I'm pretty sure fungi are classified as vegetables. Also a great source of iron. | ||
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:32 Mulletarian wrote: Good thing he stuck to math. Nothing has benefited human health, survival and evolution as much as the omnivorous diet. Sorry to perchance derail your thread, but that quote was provocative enough. That was during prehistoric times, now we have the knowledge to sustain ourselves nutritionally. If we evolve to a vegetarian diet i assure we won't turn back into monkeys. | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
There is a lot of shitty meat out there but if you stay away from that nothing can beat a quality steak. | ||
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:33 Therapy wrote: Those who are saying they tried going vegetarian and experienced energy loss I'm sorry but I have to call bullshit. It's probably just placebo/you making an excuse to go back to eating food that you find tasty. Rice, beans, tofu, and meat substitutes all provide plenty of calories and protein. Being vegetarian doesn't mean you only eat salads all day :S Not completely bullshit. Vegetarian foods tend to have less energy, but that just means you have to eat more. You also have to think about what you eat. | ||
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relyt
United States1073 Posts
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:37 DaCruise wrote: I could only see myself "converting" to vegetarian, if the only meat I got was from burgers and hotdogs. There is a lot of shitty meat out there but if you stay away from that nothing can beat a quality steak. You raise a good point, processed meat is grosser, but some people find all meats, even the most quality, very disgusting. Me for example. | ||
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Freak705
Canada231 Posts
A couple months ago I was at a sports bar with friends and I drunkenly ate some of their nachos, and accidentally had a tiny morsel of chicken. To be honest, it tasted terrible to me and the texture was really weird for me.. I've gone too far. Goodbye meat, forever lol. I don't miss it at all. If you know how to cook anything at all, being vegetarian is really quite easy. Some of my favourites: Thai Red or Green Curry- Preferably, go to a local Asian food store to get the curry paste, it's a looooot better than the weak, North-Americanized version you'll buy in a grocery store. Whisk it in to 2 cans of coconut milk with a couple tablespoons each of brown sugar and soy sauce, then add any vegetables and tofu to your liking (I usually do red peppers, green beans, mushrooms, bamboo shoots and carrots) Pad Thai- 3 Tbsp tamarind paste (again, go to the Asian food store :p) 3 Tbsp ketchup 2 Tbsp brown sugar 2 Tbsp soy sauce Stiry-fry half a block of tofu with a few chopped cloves of garlic, then add some sliced carrots and broccoli florets. Soak rice noodles in hot water, and add the noodles when they're done plus the sauce. Put in about a cup of beansprouts, and some chopped green onions. Add egg if you want at the end, then eat with chopped peanuts and crushed red chili flakes =D Teriyaki Tofu and Vegetables- Just stiry fry some tofu, mushrooms, broccoli and sliced (or shredded) carrots, plus a healthy amount of beansprouts. Put on rice, pour on some teriyaki sauce and add some spicy chili sauce. So good.. ![[image loading]](http://oi55.tinypic.com/2i72qaf.jpg) And, if you're feeling a little lazy: ![[image loading]](http://www.yvesveggie.ca/media/files/products/Mexican-Veggie-Ground-Round.jpg) Taco meat substitute! Just microwave and add your regular taco fixings. ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ygpFREg-WNk/TV14TYHjipI/AAAAAAAAADQ/cj-vEwTXL0M/s1600/GroundOriginal300g-284x269.jpg) Regular ground beef substitute. I use it mainly for making chili, but you could use it for pasta and "meat" sauce if you want ![[image loading]](http://everygreenthing.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Vegan-friendly-turkey-slice-replacement.jpg) I usually just eat lettuce, cheese, tomato and mayo sandwiches but sometimes this is a nice change of pace. It's actually very close to being like real turkey slices, too. ![[image loading]](http://www.foodfacts.com/images/items/748458537913.jpg) Best. Soy chicken. Ever... *drools* | ||
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Jank
United States308 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:37 frogurt wrote: Not completely bullshit. Vegetarian foods tend to have less energy, but that just means you have to eat more. You also have to think about what you eat. Well obviously certain foods have more calories than others. I think people are sane enough to realize, oh I'm still hungry I'll eat some more... | ||
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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:34 frogurt wrote: What about mushrooms? I'm pretty sure fungi are classified as vegetables. Also a great source of iron. Not biology major here, but I'm pretty sure they are not vegetables. That is why I was asking, I don't know what the consensus is for the matter. | ||
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JDance
Sweden14 Posts
I love indian veggie food, like spinach/lentil stuff with cardamom and coriander, thats what got me into this whole veggie thing  Growing up in Sweden with our meat culture I only ate dishes with fish and meat all my life, with the exception of pancakes lol But things are changing I guess! | ||
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GrayGhost
United States72 Posts
there is nothing better than grilling some meat. Last night I grilled some pork chops .. oh god were they good. and get this, i also had potatos and broccoli with my tasty meat! damn BBQ is great! thank god summer is here. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:40 relyt wrote: Another thing i would like to add is that my favorite person of all time Leonardo da Vinci was also a vegetarian. So were other historical figures like Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras, Sir Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, Mark Twain, Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin, Albert Schweitzer, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry Ford, William Wordsworth, George Bernard Shaw, Martin Luther. | ||
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DNB
Finland995 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:33 Therapy wrote: Those who are saying they tried going vegetarian and experienced energy loss I'm sorry but I have to call bullshit. It's probably just placebo/you making an excuse to go back to eating food that you find tasty. Rice, beans, tofu, and meat substitutes all provide plenty of calories and protein. Being vegetarian doesn't mean you only eat salads all day :S It does lead to energy loss if you don't get sufficient amount of minerals. Plus vegetarian diet requires you to eat more starches, so carb-sensitive people might experience additional lethargy. | ||
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Overpowered
Czech Republic764 Posts
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Freak705
Canada231 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:42 Ender985 wrote: As a biology major, I can tell you "vegetable" isn't really used as any sort of identifiable class of organisms. Mushrooms are fungi, and they are often times edible. Who cares what we call them? :pNot biology major here, but I'm pretty sure they are not vegetables. That is why I was asking, I don't know what the consensus is for the matter. Personally I find mushrooms to add a really nice, earthy and hearty flavour that can be lacking in vegetarian dishes occasionally. Plus, you can make mushroom gravy, which is soooo good. | ||
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Mulletarian
Norway101 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:36 frogurt wrote: That was during prehistoric times, now we have the knowledge to sustain ourselves nutritionally. If we evolve to a vegetarian diet i assure we won't turn back into monkeys. I'm sorry, but that holier than thou attitude won't help you in your quest to have humanity 'evolve' to a vegan diet. It's an emotional statement and you won't convince anyone with half a mind. Edit; not to mention it's pretty much bordering to flamebait, if you look at some of the responses in this thread. Almost makes me think it's just trolling. | ||
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GrayGhost
United States72 Posts
Id like to start with Genghis Khan. now there's a true badass .. not like Plato or any of that **** | ||
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