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Do not make this a debate on meat eating. You don't need to prove people "wrong" about their eating habits.
Mulletarian
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway101 Posts
April 11 2011 19:32 GMT
#61
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. -- Albert Einstein


Good thing he stuck to math. Nothing has benefited human health, survival and evolution as much as the omnivorous diet. Sorry to perchance derail your thread, but that quote was provocative enough.
Jank
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States308 Posts
April 11 2011 19:33 GMT
#62
Those who are saying they tried going vegetarian and experienced energy loss I'm sorry but I have to call bullshit. It's probably just placebo/you making an excuse to go back to eating food that you find tasty. Rice, beans, tofu, and meat substitutes all provide plenty of calories and protein. Being vegetarian doesn't mean you only eat salads all day :S
"You don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day." - Michael Parenti
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 11 2011 19:33 GMT
#63
On April 12 2011 04:25 DNB wrote:
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On April 12 2011 04:20 Yizuo wrote:
I feel you... It's super annoying when people find out you are vegetarian and try to argue with you about it. Or even worse, think they have this shit figured out and try to illuminate you why it's dumb...


This goes often both ways I guess. I know lots of vegans with this holier than thou-attitude when they start bashing and arguing against someone who wants to eat a diet with some meat in it.

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On April 12 2011 04:24 frogurt wrote:

Eggs are great for protein, but can be replaced by beans, tofu, chickpeas, spinach, peas, broccoli etc.


Seriously? Do you even have an idea how much you would have to eat those to get even a slightly significant amount of protein?

Beans and tofu are fine, but don't offer the full amino-profile as eggs do.

If it's not a problem, eat your eggs bro.

Tofu and soy-protein in general offers a pretty damn good amino profile, actually. There's 8 essential amino acids (there are 20, but your body can synthesize the other 12) Soybeans offers all of them, along with red meat and ... a few other things.
Also Black beans for life <3
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
April 11 2011 19:34 GMT
#64
On April 12 2011 04:32 Ender985 wrote:
So I have a question for you vegans/vegetarians, that I always wanted to ask but never had the opportunity:

What about mushrooms?


What about mushrooms? I'm pretty sure fungi are classified as vegetables. Also a great source of iron.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
April 11 2011 19:36 GMT
#65
On April 12 2011 04:32 Mulletarian wrote:
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Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. -- Albert Einstein


Good thing he stuck to math. Nothing has benefited human health, survival and evolution as much as the omnivorous diet. Sorry to perchance derail your thread, but that quote was provocative enough.


That was during prehistoric times, now we have the knowledge to sustain ourselves nutritionally. If we evolve to a vegetarian diet i assure we won't turn back into monkeys.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
April 11 2011 19:37 GMT
#66
I could only see myself "converting" to vegetarian, if the only meat I got was from burgers and hotdogs.
There is a lot of shitty meat out there but if you stay away from that nothing can beat a quality steak.
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
April 11 2011 19:37 GMT
#67
On April 12 2011 04:33 Therapy wrote:
Those who are saying they tried going vegetarian and experienced energy loss I'm sorry but I have to call bullshit. It's probably just placebo/you making an excuse to go back to eating food that you find tasty. Rice, beans, tofu, and meat substitutes all provide plenty of calories and protein. Being vegetarian doesn't mean you only eat salads all day :S


Not completely bullshit. Vegetarian foods tend to have less energy, but that just means you have to eat more. You also have to think about what you eat.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
April 11 2011 19:40 GMT
#68
Another thing i would like to add is that my favorite person of all time Leonardo da Vinci was also a vegetarian.
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
April 11 2011 19:41 GMT
#69
On April 12 2011 04:37 DaCruise wrote:
I could only see myself "converting" to vegetarian, if the only meat I got was from burgers and hotdogs.
There is a lot of shitty meat out there but if you stay away from that nothing can beat a quality steak.


You raise a good point, processed meat is grosser, but some people find all meats, even the most quality, very disgusting.

Me for example.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
Freak705
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada231 Posts
April 11 2011 19:41 GMT
#70
Aha! I've been vegetarian for a couple years now and to be honest I like it quite a bit. I used to be an intense carnivore, so when people say they couldn't imagine not eating meat and denounce vegetarianism based on that alone I have a hard time taking them seriously. Before, if I went to any kind of buffet there was no chance I'd be going anywhere near anything green..

A couple months ago I was at a sports bar with friends and I drunkenly ate some of their nachos, and accidentally had a tiny morsel of chicken. To be honest, it tasted terrible to me and the texture was really weird for me.. I've gone too far. Goodbye meat, forever lol.

I don't miss it at all. If you know how to cook anything at all, being vegetarian is really quite easy. Some of my favourites:

Thai Red or Green Curry- Preferably, go to a local Asian food store to get the curry paste, it's a looooot better than the weak, North-Americanized version you'll buy in a grocery store. Whisk it in to 2 cans of coconut milk with a couple tablespoons each of brown sugar and soy sauce, then add any vegetables and tofu to your liking (I usually do red peppers, green beans, mushrooms, bamboo shoots and carrots)

Pad Thai-
3 Tbsp tamarind paste (again, go to the Asian food store :p)
3 Tbsp ketchup
2 Tbsp brown sugar
2 Tbsp soy sauce

Stiry-fry half a block of tofu with a few chopped cloves of garlic, then add some sliced carrots and broccoli florets. Soak rice noodles in hot water, and add the noodles when they're done plus the sauce. Put in about a cup of beansprouts, and some chopped green onions. Add egg if you want at the end, then eat with chopped peanuts and crushed red chili flakes =D

Teriyaki Tofu and Vegetables- Just stiry fry some tofu, mushrooms, broccoli and sliced (or shredded) carrots, plus a healthy amount of beansprouts. Put on rice, pour on some teriyaki sauce and add some spicy chili sauce. So good..

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And, if you're feeling a little lazy:
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Taco meat substitute! Just microwave and add your regular taco fixings.

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Regular ground beef substitute. I use it mainly for making chili, but you could use it for pasta and "meat" sauce if you want

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I usually just eat lettuce, cheese, tomato and mayo sandwiches but sometimes this is a nice change of pace. It's actually very close to being like real turkey slices, too.

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Best. Soy chicken. Ever... *drools*
Jank
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States308 Posts
April 11 2011 19:41 GMT
#71
On April 12 2011 04:37 frogurt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 04:33 Therapy wrote:
Those who are saying they tried going vegetarian and experienced energy loss I'm sorry but I have to call bullshit. It's probably just placebo/you making an excuse to go back to eating food that you find tasty. Rice, beans, tofu, and meat substitutes all provide plenty of calories and protein. Being vegetarian doesn't mean you only eat salads all day :S


Not completely bullshit. Vegetarian foods tend to have less energy, but that just means you have to eat more. You also have to think about what you eat.

Well obviously certain foods have more calories than others. I think people are sane enough to realize, oh I'm still hungry I'll eat some more...
"You don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day." - Michael Parenti
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
April 11 2011 19:42 GMT
#72
On April 12 2011 04:34 frogurt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 04:32 Ender985 wrote:
So I have a question for you vegans/vegetarians, that I always wanted to ask but never had the opportunity:

What about mushrooms?


What about mushrooms? I'm pretty sure fungi are classified as vegetables. Also a great source of iron.


Not biology major here, but I'm pretty sure they are not vegetables. That is why I was asking, I don't know what the consensus is for the matter.
Member of the Pirate Party - direct democracy, institutional transparency, and freedom of information
JDance
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden14 Posts
April 11 2011 19:42 GMT
#73
I eat a lot of vegetarian food because I feel like it. It seems to be a lot of work for the body to process meat. Basically I eat mostly veggie, then fish, then meat. I only eat meat when I feel a real crave for it. For example if I go out to lunch at work it is very annoying to eat a lot of meat because then my body will just process that the whole afternoon and I'll get really tired. If I eat veggie food by the time I get back to the office I have forgotten all about even eating and feel balanced and good.

I love indian veggie food, like spinach/lentil stuff with cardamom and coriander, thats what got me into this whole veggie thing

Growing up in Sweden with our meat culture I only ate dishes with fish and meat all my life, with the exception of pancakes lol But things are changing I guess!
GrayGhost
Profile Joined February 2011
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 19:44:00
April 11 2011 19:43 GMT
#74
meat tastes great.

there is nothing better than grilling some meat.
Last night I grilled some pork chops .. oh god were they good.

and get this, i also had potatos and broccoli with my tasty meat!

damn BBQ is great! thank god summer is here.

User was temp banned for this post.
Theta Chi
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
April 11 2011 19:43 GMT
#75
On April 12 2011 04:40 relyt wrote:
Another thing i would like to add is that my favorite person of all time Leonardo da Vinci was also a vegetarian.


So were other historical figures like Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras, Sir Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, Mark Twain, Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin, Albert Schweitzer, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry Ford, William Wordsworth, George Bernard Shaw, Martin Luther.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
April 11 2011 19:44 GMT
#76
On April 12 2011 04:33 Therapy wrote:
Those who are saying they tried going vegetarian and experienced energy loss I'm sorry but I have to call bullshit. It's probably just placebo/you making an excuse to go back to eating food that you find tasty. Rice, beans, tofu, and meat substitutes all provide plenty of calories and protein. Being vegetarian doesn't mean you only eat salads all day :S


It does lead to energy loss if you don't get sufficient amount of minerals. Plus vegetarian diet requires you to eat more starches, so carb-sensitive people might experience additional lethargy.
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
April 11 2011 19:44 GMT
#77
I am not vegetarian, but I rarely eat meat. Usually fish. But grilled spicy pork is just awesome. But overall I prefer vegetarian food, it usually tastes better.
Just another gold Protoss...
Freak705
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada231 Posts
April 11 2011 19:45 GMT
#78
On April 12 2011 04:42 Ender985 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 04:34 frogurt wrote:
On April 12 2011 04:32 Ender985 wrote:
So I have a question for you vegans/vegetarians, that I always wanted to ask but never had the opportunity:

What about mushrooms?


What about mushrooms? I'm pretty sure fungi are classified as vegetables. Also a great source of iron.


Not biology major here, but I'm pretty sure they are not vegetables. That is why I was asking, I don't know what the consensus is for the matter.
As a biology major, I can tell you "vegetable" isn't really used as any sort of identifiable class of organisms. Mushrooms are fungi, and they are often times edible. Who cares what we call them? :p

Personally I find mushrooms to add a really nice, earthy and hearty flavour that can be lacking in vegetarian dishes occasionally. Plus, you can make mushroom gravy, which is soooo good.
Mulletarian
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 19:48:33
April 11 2011 19:45 GMT
#79
On April 12 2011 04:36 frogurt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 04:32 Mulletarian wrote:
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. -- Albert Einstein


Good thing he stuck to math. Nothing has benefited human health, survival and evolution as much as the omnivorous diet. Sorry to perchance derail your thread, but that quote was provocative enough.


That was during prehistoric times, now we have the knowledge to sustain ourselves nutritionally. If we evolve to a vegetarian diet i assure we won't turn back into monkeys.

I'm sorry, but that holier than thou attitude won't help you in your quest to have humanity 'evolve' to a vegan diet. It's an emotional statement and you won't convince anyone with half a mind.

Edit; not to mention it's pretty much bordering to flamebait, if you look at some of the responses in this thread. Almost makes me think it's just trolling.
GrayGhost
Profile Joined February 2011
United States72 Posts
April 11 2011 19:47 GMT
#80
maybe we should list all the people who enjoy meat and were great.

Id like to start with Genghis Khan. now there's a true badass .. not like Plato or any of that ****
Theta Chi
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