EPTI tried to read up on the internet what kinds of food veggies should eat more to get all the nutrients we need, but I didn't really get an answer that satisfied me. So much contradictory info
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Yizuo
Germany1537 Posts
I tried to read up on the internet what kinds of food veggies should eat more to get all the nutrients we need, but I didn't really get an answer that satisfied me. So much contradictory info ... Any tips? | ||
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kingcoyote
United States546 Posts
On April 12 2011 03:17 frogurt wrote: Do you enjoy it? I always wonder about what my kids will eat, if i have them. I would like them to be vegetarian/vegan but i'd rather let them decide for themselves, also issues of malnutrition related to growth. Meh. I've spent a very, very long time trying to decide if I'm glad they did that or not. I felt very different from all the other kids and was pretty ostracized because of it. It was an awkward childhood. I tried breaking free from it when I was about 18 (I'm 25 now), but just couldn't stand the taste of meat. It was so foreign to me and was just not enjoyable. I gave up about 6 months in and accepted that this is the way I'll always be. I tend to hate most vegetarians, though. The more recently someone converted, the more of a pain they are to be around. Most people don't find out that I'm vegetarian until it is absolutely necessary for them to know, because I get preemptively shit on for the preaching they think I'm about to do, but never actually do. Going out to eat is a pain, though. I can eat just one or two items at any restaurant. When I'm making food for myself, I've got just as many options as anyone else, though. I never really feel restricted in that regard. I think I'm overall happy that this is how things have been, though. It's just annoying dealing with obnoxious vegetarians and obnoxious non-vegetarians when I just want to be left alone as far as my diet is concerned. | ||
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seaofsaturn
United States489 Posts
If you're vegan then I don't know what to say... I love cheese and eggs. I would die. Strangely though I prefer soy milk to regular milk. I guess if i was vegan I would eat a lot of beans. Beans are good and have protein. To the guy who grew up a vegetarian, my gf is the same way, she actually cannot stand the smell of meat or meat cooking. She equates the smell of cooking meat to sewage. Beans beans for every meal, the more you eat the better you feel... | ||
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Yizuo
Germany1537 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:16 visual77 wrote: [...]Most people don't find out that I'm vegetarian until it is absolutely necessary for them to know, because I get preemptively shit on for the preaching they think I'm about to do, but never actually do. Going out to eat is a pain, though. I can eat just one or two items at any restaurant. When I'm making food for myself, I've got just as many options as anyone else, though. I never really feel restricted in that regard. I think I'm overall happy that this is how things have been, though. It's just annoying dealing with obnoxious vegetarians and obnoxious non-vegetarians when I just want to be left alone as far as my diet is concerned. I feel you... It's super annoying when people find out you are vegetarian and try to argue with you about it. Or even worse, think they have this shit figured out and try to illuminate you why it's dumb... Also, eating at a restaurant is indeed often annoying . | ||
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Serthius
Samoa226 Posts
I'm not a vegetarian, but about half of the food I make for myself is vegetarian, mostly just because I like it. | ||
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SharkSpider
Canada606 Posts
Also, whey protein, soy milk, chick peas, kidney beans, bananas, and egg whites, for the lactose intolerant vegetarians (I know you're out there) who are like half vegan by design. | ||
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kingcoyote
United States546 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:21 Serthius wrote: I never understood why vegan food has to be meat dishes where you substitute the meat for a terrible vegan alternative, Like "veggie burgers" or "veggie chicken nuggets". Yuck. There's so much delicious proper vegan food to be had! I'm not a vegetarian, but about half of the food I make for myself is vegetarian, mostly just because I like it. I really like vegetarian hot dogs, but only one specific brand. I don't like the way most of them taste. I like it because the texture / taste / shape is a really good anchor point for the center of the meal. The same goes with veggie burgers. | ||
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:18 seaofsaturn wrote: For people who say that they are afraid of malnutrition, just eat eggs and beans. I am not a vegetarian, but my gf is and therefore there can be long periods of time where I abstain from eating meat. Eggs always give me that extra energy and satisfaction that I feel is lacking when you don't eat meat. If you're vegan then I don't know what to say... I love cheese and eggs. I would die. Strangely though I prefer soy milk to regular milk. I guess if i was vegan I would eat a lot of beans. Beans are good and have protein. To the guy who grew up a vegetarian, my gf is the same way, she actually cannot stand the smell of meat or meat cooking. She equates the smell of cooking meat to sewage. Beans beans for every meal, the more you eat the better you feel... Eggs are great for protein, but can be replaced by beans, tofu, chickpeas, spinach, peas, broccoli etc. As for cheese, you can use tofutti or other cheese substitutes to meet your gooey, greasy needs. | ||
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DNB
Finland995 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:20 Yizuo wrote: I feel you... It's super annoying when people find out you are vegetarian and try to argue with you about it. Or even worse, think they have this shit figured out and try to illuminate you why it's dumb... This goes often both ways I guess. I know lots of vegans with this holier than thou-attitude when they start bashing and arguing against someone who wants to eat a diet with some meat in it. On April 12 2011 04:24 frogurt wrote: Eggs are great for protein, but can be replaced by beans, tofu, chickpeas, spinach, peas, broccoli etc. Seriously? Do you even have an idea how much you would have to eat those to get even a slightly significant amount of protein? Beans and tofu are fine, but don't offer the full amino-profile as eggs do. If it's not a problem, eat your eggs bro. | ||
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:21 Serthius wrote: I never understood why vegan food has to be meat dishes where you substitute the meat for a terrible vegan alternative, Like "veggie burgers" or "veggie chicken nuggets". Yuck. There's so much delicious proper vegan food to be had! I'm not a vegetarian, but about half of the food I make for myself is vegetarian, mostly just because I like it. I agree, real food is better than pseudo meats. But it's very convienient to have them as quick meals and there are few that taste good, based on personal opinion. | ||
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Serthius
Samoa226 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:07 DNB wrote: Fish is meat. I don't know any reasons why it would not be considered meat... I think the reasoning is that (most) fish live a free and happy life out in the oceans, whereas (most) other animals we eat live crappy lives in cages. Of course, with that reasoning vegetarians who eat fish should be okay with eating game meat as well. Bambi effect, maybe. | ||
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Jank
United States308 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:04 frogurt wrote: I was apprehensive at first about switching to vegan, but my friend convinced me to try it and i never turned back. You can make pizza with cheese substitute and have your coffee with soy milk  The main inconvienience is not being able to eat much fast food because they often have vegetarian options, but rarely vegan. So i suggest trying it out for a couple of months and seeing how you go. I already usually drink coffee with soy milk, I actually prefer the taste. Pizza though, the appeal is its quick, easy, cheap and delicious. I've had vegan pizza a few times and its not bad. It definitely lacks the greasy deliciousness though, plus it's pricey and hard to find. Cooking it at home is always an option but if I'm home I'm usually eating something healthier anyways. | ||
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kingcoyote
United States546 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:25 DNB wrote: This goes often both ways I guess. I know lots of vegans with this holier than thou-attitude when they start bashing and arguing against someone who wants to eat a diet with some meat in it. I've noticed a very strong correlation between how long someone has been vegan / vegetarian and how chill they are about it. Recent converts are jackasses and make long time vegetarians look bad. That's why I tend to hate them just as much (if not more) than the non-vegetarians they hassle. | ||
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Serthius
Samoa226 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:26 frogurt wrote: I agree, real food is better than pseudo meats. But it's very convienient to have them as quick meals and there are few that taste good, based on personal opinion. True, convenience is a valid reason. I'm only a part time vegetarian, so I don't have that problem.  | ||
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:25 DNB wrote: This goes often both ways I guess. I know lots of vegans with this holier than thou-attitude when they start bashing and arguing against someone who wants to eat a diet with some meat in it. I'm happy to see any rejection of meat. But pescetarian that claim to be vegetarians can be irritating, it's like when someone says "i'm in silver league, but i'm good enough to be gold." Just don't claim to be something you're not. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
I hate the taste of burgers, beef, fish, squid, shrimp, and turkey and eggs, but I will eat eggs if they are an ingredient to a larger dish. The Idea of Veal is disgusting. So I literally only eat chicken and elk and pork. The elk is game-meat, so the elk live great, long lives before they're shot and skinned by my uncle. Chicken is always organic. The pork is always organic. My matra is that we should all support organic food, but I don't think that complete restriction is the answer (although that's fine too) | ||
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Irrelevant
United States2364 Posts
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DisneylandSC
Netherlands435 Posts
On April 12 2011 04:26 Serthius wrote: I think the reasoning is that (most) fish live a free and happy life out in the oceans, whereas (most) other animals we eat live crappy lives in cages. Of course, with that reasoning vegetarians who eat fish should be okay with eating game meat as well. Bambi effect, maybe. There is also the link between empathy and suspected conciousness (Sam Harris ftw). I guess many people feel that fish (whether it be true or not) are exposed to a lot smaller range of experiece in terms of happiness and suffering. Same way you feel more compassion for a cat than a rock (carried to it's extreme). | ||
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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
What about mushrooms? | ||
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