EPTI'm using a mostly vegetarian diet and eat veal at least once per year and also understand where soup hens come from, thank you very much.
Vegetarian/Vegan Thread - Page 23
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Do not make this a debate on meat eating. You don't need to prove people "wrong" about their eating habits. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
I'm using a mostly vegetarian diet and eat veal at least once per year and also understand where soup hens come from, thank you very much. | ||
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
On April 18 2011 15:12 Ropid wrote: If you would read thoroughly, you would have noticed that Romantic is not a vegetarian. You would also have seen that something like your opinion came up in the thread and was discussed. Your post brings no new insight to anyone. I'm using a mostly vegetarian diet and eat veal at least once per year and also understand where soup hens come from, thank you very much. Indeed! Not a vegetarian, just defending your ability to bitch at people for not being vegetarians  . | ||
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frogurt
Australia907 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On April 18 2011 07:46 Romantic wrote: Hahaha, well, I guess as far as animals go chicken and fish are pretty stupid. Maybe she feels OK eating them because they arent that bright to begin with! Neither are cows. Turkeys are generally considered the most stupid animal alive, next to scientologists. | ||
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Dont Panic
United States194 Posts
Also will the OP please update the recipe list? It is painful to read through all these comments. If you don't have the time can you or a mod give me access so i can update it? | ||
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New Zealander
New Zealand70 Posts
Be interesting to know how long she's been vegan for. | ||
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ChiknAdobo
United States208 Posts
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Owompa
United States85 Posts
I gotta say though, it is hard to be a vegetarian and downright a full-time job to be a vegan. Shopping takes longer. Cooking takes longer. Food is more expensive. Can't eat out in most places that are mainstream middle America. Maybe it is easier (and tastier) in other countries, but I felt like I was somehow missing out on life by not eating meat. Not just in terms of foods, but social experiences as well. | ||
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GabrielB
Brazil594 Posts
On April 24 2011 13:28 Owompa wrote: Ex-vegetarian here. Stopped eating meat cause I was cool and anti-mainstream. I guess I grew out of that phase and now I try to eat as many different things as I can. I gotta say though, it is hard to be a vegetarian and downright a full-time job to be a vegan. Shopping takes longer. Cooking takes longer. Food is more expensive. Can't eat out in most places that are mainstream middle America. Maybe it is easier (and tastier) in other countries, but I felt like I was somehow missing out on life by not eating meat. Not just in terms of foods, but social experiences as well. It's easier in the US than anywhere else, I would think. The amount of products and alternatives you guys have there is incredible. I envy you guys so much, we have almost nothing here... I've been vegan for 11 years now, and I think being vegan does give you that feeling that you are missing out on things, a bit similar to not drinking alcohol. Dating is especially harder... But just being being vegetarian (eating eggs and dairy) doesn't sound like a hardship at all. But if the reason why you stopped eating meat was to be "cool" and "anti-mainstream", just a phase, you were bound to give up someday, no matter how hard or easy was it... | ||
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LordofAscension
United States589 Posts
My gf is vegan so we eat a ton of vegetables and I love cheese. It's good times; we do care what others eat as raising beef is pretty lousy for the environment & mass chickens produce nasty waste - but we don't shove our beliefs and opinions onto other people... ~LoA | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
I would offer recipes, but I can't really cook. Sorry. ^^; | ||
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five99one
United States11 Posts
I'm a pretty lazy vegetarian, so I don't really have any recipes.  I love Morningstar Farms. Besides that, I eat a lot of grains like cereal, oatmeal and pasta. Oh and Mexican food! Yumyum. When I do cook, though, it's usually just a bunch of stuff in a pan. Honestly, cooking is so versatile that I just wing it every time. Baking is what needs accuracy and attention.One thing that annoys the hell out of me as a vegetarian: when there's gelatin in something you wouldn't expect. For instance, multivitamins, Planter's dry roasted peanuts and Kellog's Frosted Mini Wheats. Plus yogurt, but that makes a bit of sense, I suppose. Stonyfield Farms is better anyway. Oh! And I'm a vegetarian for mostly ethical reasons, I'd say. But also a bit of health. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On April 24 2011 13:21 ChiknAdobo wrote: I have a serious question even though I'm aware it may seem like I'm not serious, but I am. Whenever I eat a lot of vegetables I tend to get really gassy. Is that normal? How do you have that not happen? I believe everyone has a unique gut flora and this is where problems come from if you eat something unusual compared to your normal meals. I guess the balance of bacteria would change over time when eating vegetables daily, though I do not know if that would mean less gases. | ||
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five99one
United States11 Posts
On April 25 2011 01:58 Ropid wrote: I believe everyone has a unique gut flora and this is where problems come from if you eat something unusual compared to your normal meals. I guess the balance of bacteria would change over time when eating vegetables daily, though I do not know if that would mean less gases. Oh, I was going to answer this but forgot. My guess is probably the amount of fiber. Lots of fiber = gassy + good poops. I guess you could take Beano, which helps prevent gas, or just spread out your vegetable servings. Or take out some fiber-rich vegetables and replace them with other ones. | ||
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0mar
United States567 Posts
Secondly, without modern agriculture, probably 75% of this board would not exist. There is no way to raise that much food without resorting to these techniques. Sure, we could make improvements, but we aren't going back to the way farming was done in the 1800s. That type of farming simply doesn't produce enough food to feed the people alive today. Finally, there is no example of a vegeterian culture in the entire history of humanity except for the modern era where supplementation is possible. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
On April 25 2011 04:37 0mar wrote: Cows would be extinct without agriculture. Why do you condone genocide. Secondly, without modern agriculture, probably 75% of this board would not exist. There is no way to raise that much food without resorting to these techniques. Sure, we could make improvements, but we aren't going back to the way farming was done in the 1800s. That type of farming simply doesn't produce enough food to feed the people alive today. Finally, there is no example of a vegeterian culture in the entire history of humanity except for the modern era where supplementation is possible. I don't usually want to get into arguments in this thread, but this is just misinformation. The cows would be extinct argument is stupid, but I guess you're trolling so whatever. Where do you get this idea of going back to 1800's farming methods? Meat is an inefficient industry anyway. You can produce more calories worth of vegetables on less land than you can with meat. So I don't even see what you're trying to argue here. Meat used to be a massive luxury like 50-100 years ago. People at it maybe 2 or 3 times a week in most rural scottish communities, and then in small portions. So modern agriculture developed around growing vegetables and grains. Industrial farming on the American scale is a modern invention, and incredibly inefficient. It's only really viable due to corn being heavily subsidised by the American government. Otherwise it doesnt make any agricultural sense, and I would like to hear you argue that it is an efficient system if you want to (taking into account the amount of transportation necessary). There are many examples of long term Vegetarian cultures in history. People initially largely consumed vegetables even in western countries, very little meat consumed. And go look at Asia. India and countries with strong buddhist roots have long term histories of vegetarianism. Sorry, but this is just a bad post  | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
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Laerties
United States361 Posts
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On April 26 2011 13:06 Laerties wrote: This thread pushed me to finally make the step and become vegetarian. I'm on day 6 so far and I feel pretty good, I've gained maybe 1-2 pounds which is incredible, I guess I've been forcing myself to eat extra out of nervousness of loosing weight. I feel really good knowing that I have the mental strength to prioritize my morals over my meat eating impulses. So I went veggie when I started doing MMA because you can cut weight faster. The weight you gain when you start is largely water weight. Most green things have a ton of water and actually weigh more than you'd expect. As a result, I,forexample, gain 5 lbs of water weight in the first week or two of eating a green-dominant diet. You will lose that pretty quickly aslong as you aren't a pizza and ice cream veggie. When I started, I was 5'9, 160. I was down to 140 soaking wet with <5% body fat and wayyyy more fit than I've ever been. Despite my previous lack of current workout regime, I was able to still toss down 40+ pushups cold, crank out pull ups, all that kinda stuff mostly because I almost all lean mass, so now that I am working out and such, I put on visible muscle mass almost daily with a very mild but consistent training plan. Its hard to over eat when you are a veggie, so long as you hit your protein req, you can basically eat 24/7 without risking any weight gain. | ||
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ChiknAdobo
United States208 Posts
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