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On August 31 2010 23:28 Gregsen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) You, sir, are a total idiot.
I guess I should elaborate more. But why repeat what someone above me already said?
You sir, shouldn't be so hasty to call ppl stupid.
On August 31 2010 22:47 hns wrote:
I don't get why everybody sees Blizzard/Gretech as the bad guys here.
Apparently OGN was able to negotiate/talk to Gretech in a suitable way and got it's contract. Gretech even offered the same conditions to MBC as they have with OGN. The situation was clear since Blizzard put Gretech in place and it's MBCs very own fault if they aren't able to adapt to a new situation.
Blizzard owns the copyrights and now that Kespa et al failed to recognize these for SC2, they were left with Gretech. If they are too stubborn to see that Blizzard has more pull in the long run, it's really their own fault. OGN managed to bite the bullet, MBC/Kespa didn't and apparently don't.
I can't see the main fault on Blizzard's side here. You can't really blame them to get their copyright stuff right for SC2 and they really don't have to swallow everything. They gave MBC/Kespa a lot of possibilities to handle the new situation and apparently these two are still too stubborn. So blame them, not Blizzard alone. I do recognize that Blizzard probably could have been a little more tolerant (well they left the running leagues alone) but I'm still on their side here.
do you even realize what would have happen to your SC2, if SC1 wasn't this big?? they should be thanking Korean corporations for giving them free advertisement ..
It's not MY SC2 :p, but you do make a good point there. I understand that SC2 is only what it is because of BW, I'm just saying Blizz wants to make more money, and they want all the companies to support their new game(obviously.) Which, albeit an extremely rude thing to do, is just part of business. New game, new fans, new sales, more money. At least, that's how I see it.
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On August 31 2010 20:49 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 20:30 Funnytoss wrote:
From a profit perspective, this makes total sense. Blizzard absolutely wants to get Korea to give up on BW now that SC2 is out, and from their perspective, they don't make any money if Flash or Jaedong keep on playing BW. They have MUCH to gain if these kinds of S-class players switch to SC2, if only out of necessity. This isn't about Flash or any players. This is just that from a pure fiscal perspective, Blizzard has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Threaten to kill off BW if your demands aren't met (more or less). A) KeSPA/OGN/MBCGame cave and pay up == $$$ + the korean esports scene in your pocket. B) KeSPA/OGN/MBCGame refuse to pay, BW dies == more room (and less competition) for a SC2 esport scene in Korea (though with a very bad taste left in the mouths of ex-BW fans). Essentially, even if it didn't help SC2 at all, it still doesn't cost Blizz anything atm if the BW scene dies now since they have nothing at stake and don't give 2 shits about the remaining BW fans. From what it seemed (at least according to the public statements made from both sides), it wasn't even really the financial requirements that were the main problem (though MBC did say they were 'higher than expected' and unreasonable, but KeSPA and OGN didn't have an issue). It was about Blizzard wanting a lot of power over KeSPA.
I disagree, if B happens, thats alot of bad poblicity, Im not a huge BW fan and I will stop buying their shit. (doenst help that sc2 was a big fail for me)
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On August 31 2010 23:27 aimaimaim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:21 DarkspearTribe wrote:On August 31 2010 20:20 corumjhaelen wrote:On August 31 2010 20:16 Holgerius wrote:
Goddamnit Blizzard, I'm gonna boycott your stuff from now on. >:[ This. And I won't log into SC2 ever again if things stay that way (I played with some friends cause they did not wan't to play broodwar... I'm sad.). Oh you "boycotters". MW2 Boycott: ![[image loading]](http://www.modernwarfail2.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/boycott-fail.jpg) 90% people are in MW2. LOL its funny how people boycott .. but then again its the only way to protest .. some are actually doing it so i dont see the point of your post if 10% are still gonna boycott it ..
90% people are currently in MW2. I can see everyone else got it too.
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On August 31 2010 22:22 StRyKeR wrote:
I hope MBC takes this to court, cuz this is bs. Developers shouldn't have this much power over a game, especially 10 years after its prime time. Don't copyright laws stop applying after a set number of years?
Actually they don't as long as you replenish the copyright after a certain amount of time
(i.e. theoretically holding the copyrights for lifetime).
I can't say much because on this matter korean law will be applied but that KeSPA could broadcast for 7 years is a strong point they can use in court.
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On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) I really hope the OSL continues on at least, as BW is more fun to watch. But if I can only watch pro SC2....then...I'm sad now. 
Exactly,MBC are the only ones who have a problem and as OGN were given an offer and they accepted.KeSPA can't really go to court since OGN is happy which means that the BW will ive on but will only be half as fun.
I agree this post is weak in terms of the point I want to it put in,as I have trouble putting things on paper.
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I have an idea, how about Blizz stay away from broodwar leagues and Kespa stay away from SC2?
There! Everyone is making money!!
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On August 31 2010 23:30 TheAngelofDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:28 Gregsen wrote:On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) You, sir, are a total idiot. I guess I should elaborate more. But why repeat what someone above me already said? You sir, shouldn't be so hasty to call ppl stupid. Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 22:47 hns wrote:
I don't get why everybody sees Blizzard/Gretech as the bad guys here.
Apparently OGN was able to negotiate/talk to Gretech in a suitable way and got it's contract. Gretech even offered the same conditions to MBC as they have with OGN. The situation was clear since Blizzard put Gretech in place and it's MBCs very own fault if they aren't able to adapt to a new situation.
Blizzard owns the copyrights and now that Kespa et al failed to recognize these for SC2, they were left with Gretech. If they are too stubborn to see that Blizzard has more pull in the long run, it's really their own fault. OGN managed to bite the bullet, MBC/Kespa didn't and apparently don't.
I can't see the main fault on Blizzard's side here. You can't really blame them to get their copyright stuff right for SC2 and they really don't have to swallow everything. They gave MBC/Kespa a lot of possibilities to handle the new situation and apparently these two are still too stubborn. So blame them, not Blizzard alone. I do recognize that Blizzard probably could have been a little more tolerant (well they left the running leagues alone) but I'm still on their side here.
I recommend you to read the answers that were given to this post. OGN only got into negotiations with Gretech because they have a huge sponsor (korean air) backing them, and they had to put the new OSL format under the helm of sc2. Do you call this a fair basis for negotiations? How can you defend Blizzard in this case? They gave a fuck about their property rights since nearly a decade, were rather thankful that somebody promoted their game and company name so well, and now they just go in there and demand everything that korean esport build up for themselves? They had no influence whatsoever that the game got so big there. And now they just want to harvest the fruits of this hard work, acting like they just found out that their property is being used.
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So... anyone know what the chances are of MBC winning the court case if they continue to broadcast proleague and MSL?
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Does this mean flash is possibly the last winner of the MSL?
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On August 31 2010 23:30 TheAngelofDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:28 Gregsen wrote:On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) You, sir, are a total idiot. I guess I should elaborate more. But why repeat what someone above me already said? You sir, shouldn't be so hasty to call ppl stupid. Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 22:47 hns wrote:
I don't get why everybody sees Blizzard/Gretech as the bad guys here.
Apparently OGN was able to negotiate/talk to Gretech in a suitable way and got it's contract. Gretech even offered the same conditions to MBC as they have with OGN. The situation was clear since Blizzard put Gretech in place and it's MBCs very own fault if they aren't able to adapt to a new situation.
Blizzard owns the copyrights and now that Kespa et al failed to recognize these for SC2, they were left with Gretech. If they are too stubborn to see that Blizzard has more pull in the long run, it's really their own fault. OGN managed to bite the bullet, MBC/Kespa didn't and apparently don't.
I can't see the main fault on Blizzard's side here. You can't really blame them to get their copyright stuff right for SC2 and they really don't have to swallow everything. They gave MBC/Kespa a lot of possibilities to handle the new situation and apparently these two are still too stubborn. So blame them, not Blizzard alone. I do recognize that Blizzard probably could have been a little more tolerant (well they left the running leagues alone) but I'm still on their side here.
MAybe they (kepsa) are to blame too but the fact is they invested ressources+idea to make SC:BW esport + abit of the game what it is today should mean something.
I myself after playing sc:bw storyline and loving it only got into the multiplayer game 5~ years after because of those gosu koreans.
And now SC2 and its shity storyline has its (good/decent) multiplayer to some extent becase of kepsa and the koreans.
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On August 31 2010 23:36 Scaramanga wrote:
Does this mean flash is possibly the last winner of the MSL?
He is the last winner of the MSL even if MSL continues
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On August 31 2010 23:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) I really hope the OSL continues on at least, as BW is more fun to watch. But if I can only watch pro SC2....then...I'm sad now. Exactly,MBC are the only ones who have a problem and as OGN were given an offer and they accepted.KeSPA can't really go to court since OGN is happy which means that the BW will ive on but will only be half as fun. I agree this post is weak in terms of the point I want to it put in,as I have trouble putting things on paper.
It all depends on the contracts.
As it seems OGN made a contract with gretech which means that they acted seperatly from other instances (kespa/mbc).
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How recent was that drafting article? The pro-league teams don't seem to concerned if their still drafting broodwar players for future pro league seasons and development of thier team. I don't think they think broodwar is gonna come to and end.
Also this some how makes me feel bad for playing so much sc2 and not Broodwar recently.
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On August 31 2010 23:33 mmdmmd wrote:
I have an idea, how about Blizz stay away from broodwar leagues and Kespa stay away from SC2?
There! Everyone is making money!!
Nope, because Blizzard probably want both scenes merge.
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On August 31 2010 23:40 Greg_J wrote:
How recent was that drafting article? The pro-league teams don't seem to concerned if their still drafting broodwar players for future pro league seasons and development of thier team. I don't think they think broodwar is gonna come to and end.
Also this some how makes me feel bad for playing so much sc2 and not Broodwar recently.
a week ago ,, yeah that didn't made sense also ..
On August 31 2010 23:41 C.W. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:33 mmdmmd wrote:
I have an idea, how about Blizz stay away from broodwar leagues and Kespa stay away from SC2?
There! Everyone is making money!! Nope, because Blizzard probably want both scenes merge.
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On August 31 2010 23:34 Gregsen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:30 TheAngelofDeath wrote:On August 31 2010 23:28 Gregsen wrote:On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) You, sir, are a total idiot. I guess I should elaborate more. But why repeat what someone above me already said? You sir, shouldn't be so hasty to call ppl stupid. On August 31 2010 22:47 hns wrote:
I don't get why everybody sees Blizzard/Gretech as the bad guys here.
Apparently OGN was able to negotiate/talk to Gretech in a suitable way and got it's contract. Gretech even offered the same conditions to MBC as they have with OGN. The situation was clear since Blizzard put Gretech in place and it's MBCs very own fault if they aren't able to adapt to a new situation.
Blizzard owns the copyrights and now that Kespa et al failed to recognize these for SC2, they were left with Gretech. If they are too stubborn to see that Blizzard has more pull in the long run, it's really their own fault. OGN managed to bite the bullet, MBC/Kespa didn't and apparently don't.
I can't see the main fault on Blizzard's side here. You can't really blame them to get their copyright stuff right for SC2 and they really don't have to swallow everything. They gave MBC/Kespa a lot of possibilities to handle the new situation and apparently these two are still too stubborn. So blame them, not Blizzard alone. I do recognize that Blizzard probably could have been a little more tolerant (well they left the running leagues alone) but I'm still on their side here. I recommend you to read the answers that were given to this post. OGN only got into negotiations with Gretech because they have a huge sponsor (korean air) backing them, and they had to put the new OSL format under the helm of sc2. Do you call this a fair basis for negotiations? How can you defend Blizzard in this case? They gave a fuck about their property rights since nearly a decade, were rather thankful that somebody promoted their game and company name so well, and now they just go in there and demand everything that korean esport build up for themselves? They had no influence whatsoever that the game got so big there. And now they just want to harvest the fruits of this hard work, acting like they just found out that their property is being used.
I did read the responses, and while I do agree it was a very dick move, as I edited in my above post It's just business. They want more money, so they want the korean companies to transition into their new game, gain new promotion, new fans, more viewers, and sell more stuff SC2 related. Gaming industry's still a business, and as much as it may shock you all, Activision-Blizzard only care about the money side of things, it's clear they don't care about what the fans want. But it's their game, it's their choice, and if MBC doesn't want to negotiate with them, then Blizz can just tell them to go screw themselves, which is probably what they're doing. So yeah, its really messed up and rude, but it's their stuff, and they can do whatever they want with it.
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On August 31 2010 23:37 ataryens wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:30 TheAngelofDeath wrote:On August 31 2010 23:28 Gregsen wrote:On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) You, sir, are a total idiot. I guess I should elaborate more. But why repeat what someone above me already said? You sir, shouldn't be so hasty to call ppl stupid. On August 31 2010 22:47 hns wrote:
I don't get why everybody sees Blizzard/Gretech as the bad guys here.
Apparently OGN was able to negotiate/talk to Gretech in a suitable way and got it's contract. Gretech even offered the same conditions to MBC as they have with OGN. The situation was clear since Blizzard put Gretech in place and it's MBCs very own fault if they aren't able to adapt to a new situation.
Blizzard owns the copyrights and now that Kespa et al failed to recognize these for SC2, they were left with Gretech. If they are too stubborn to see that Blizzard has more pull in the long run, it's really their own fault. OGN managed to bite the bullet, MBC/Kespa didn't and apparently don't.
I can't see the main fault on Blizzard's side here. You can't really blame them to get their copyright stuff right for SC2 and they really don't have to swallow everything. They gave MBC/Kespa a lot of possibilities to handle the new situation and apparently these two are still too stubborn. So blame them, not Blizzard alone. I do recognize that Blizzard probably could have been a little more tolerant (well they left the running leagues alone) but I'm still on their side here. MAybe they (kepsa) are to blame too but the fact is they invested ressources+idea to make SC:BW esport + abit of the game what it is today should mean something.
Here is something to read about KeSPA from guy in South Korea (quoted from Kespa cancels Nada vs TLO thread):
+ Show Spoiler +For those who are not really aware of KeSPA's business, here's the timeline of KeSPA and its major events in (South) Korea
1. KeSPA (Korean e-Sports Player Association) was founded.
2. Blizzard didn't pay much attention to KeSPA.
3. KeSPA tried to sell tickets to offline audience for the final match of Ongamenet Starcraft taurnament.
4. Blizzard said, 'No, you can't do that.'
5. KeSPA then started to take money from two major game channels, Ongamenet and MBC Game, for broadcasting Starcraft matches in Korea
6. Blizzard got mad a bit about this.
7. Only GomTV contacted Blizzard directly to request for broadcasting matches online.
8. Blizzard asked only 1$ for the contract fee.
9. GomTV created GomTV Classic and began to broadcast games.
10. Around Season 4, KeSPA told GomTV to pay money for the broadcasting.
11. GomTV argued that KeSPA didn't have any rights to do so by mentioning its contract with Blizzard.
12. KeSPA pulled their progamers out of GomTV Classic matches.
13. Eventually, GomTV went out of business.
14. Blizzard got really mad.
15. Blizzard set in motion to protect its property as well as intellectual property of Starcraft.
16. Blizzard tried to negotiate a contract with KeSPA.
17. KeSPA refused, argueing that e-sports are like other sports such as basketball and soccer, and we don't pay money to the creator of the soccer ball for soccer games. Starcraft is for the public use like the soccer ball.
18. Michael Morhaime, the president of Blizzard, visited Korea to meet progamers while promoting new Starcraft2 beta in Korea.
19. KeSPA threatened each progamer team not to meet Michael Morhaime.
20. So Michael Morhaime couldn't meet any progamers and had to return to U.S. in vain.
21. Blizzard constantly tried to negotiate with KeSPA, but KeSPA kept refusing for the same reason.
22. Blizzard finally announced that there'll be no negotiation with KeSPA.
23. Blizzard provided GomTV with the rights for broadcasting all the matches using Blizzard games. Also Blizzard informed that all the matches from KeSPA after the end of August, 2010 will expire, so KeSPA will not be able to have any matches using Blizzard games, otherwise be sued by Blizzard.
24. KeSPA furiously reacted to the 'sudden' terms. (Actually, it seemed like threatenening Blizzard)
25. Ongamenet and MBC Game hurriedly tried to negotiate with GomTV
26. In fact, there's no difference for them because they are going to pay GomTV the same money which they've been paying to KeSPA.
27. The only weapon that KeSPA has now is progamer teams that belong to KeSPA.
28. KeSPA prohibited progamers (including SlayersBoxer and NaDa) from playing, or even trying, Starcraft 2.
29. Consequently, the current high ranking players are usually retired progamers and amateurs.
30. GomTV prepared for the broadcast of GSL(Global Starcraft 2 League).
31. The scale of the league surpassed by far that from KeSPA.
32. KeSPA is now trying some media manipulation saying bad things about Starcraft 2
33. Recently, KeSPA forced NaDa to quit playing during the Starcraft2 event match that was held in Germany.
34. KeSPA gave an excuse that it was because of a network problem.
35. KeSPA changed the excuse that NaDa had another event to attend to at that time.
Most of these are known facts that have happend and are happening in Korea.
I read the original version which was in Korean posted in Ruliweb.com and I got somewhat upset about the whole story, so i decided to trasnlate it into English so that many can learn about how KeSPA has been doing to fans, progamers, and Blizzard.
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On August 31 2010 23:42 TheAngelofDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:34 Gregsen wrote:On August 31 2010 23:30 TheAngelofDeath wrote:On August 31 2010 23:28 Gregsen wrote:On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) You, sir, are a total idiot. I guess I should elaborate more. But why repeat what someone above me already said? You sir, shouldn't be so hasty to call ppl stupid. On August 31 2010 22:47 hns wrote:
I don't get why everybody sees Blizzard/Gretech as the bad guys here.
Apparently OGN was able to negotiate/talk to Gretech in a suitable way and got it's contract. Gretech even offered the same conditions to MBC as they have with OGN. The situation was clear since Blizzard put Gretech in place and it's MBCs very own fault if they aren't able to adapt to a new situation.
Blizzard owns the copyrights and now that Kespa et al failed to recognize these for SC2, they were left with Gretech. If they are too stubborn to see that Blizzard has more pull in the long run, it's really their own fault. OGN managed to bite the bullet, MBC/Kespa didn't and apparently don't.
I can't see the main fault on Blizzard's side here. You can't really blame them to get their copyright stuff right for SC2 and they really don't have to swallow everything. They gave MBC/Kespa a lot of possibilities to handle the new situation and apparently these two are still too stubborn. So blame them, not Blizzard alone. I do recognize that Blizzard probably could have been a little more tolerant (well they left the running leagues alone) but I'm still on their side here. I recommend you to read the answers that were given to this post. OGN only got into negotiations with Gretech because they have a huge sponsor (korean air) backing them, and they had to put the new OSL format under the helm of sc2. Do you call this a fair basis for negotiations? How can you defend Blizzard in this case? They gave a fuck about their property rights since nearly a decade, were rather thankful that somebody promoted their game and company name so well, and now they just go in there and demand everything that korean esport build up for themselves? They had no influence whatsoever that the game got so big there. And now they just want to harvest the fruits of this hard work, acting like they just found out that their property is being used. I did read the responses, and while I do agree it was a very dick move, as I edited in my above post It's just business. They want more money, so they want the korean companies to transition into their new game, gain new promotion, new fans, more viewers, and sell more stuff SC2 related. Gaming industry's still a business, and as much as it may shock you all, Activision-Blizzard only care about the money side of things, it's clear they don't care about what the fans want. But it's their game, it's their choice, and if MBC doesn't want to negotiate with them, then Blizz can just tell them to go screw themselves, which is probably what they're doing. So yeah, its really messed up and rude, but it's their stuff, and they can do whatever they want with it.
if its business .. then they should be paying kespa for the advertisement running for 10 years
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On August 31 2010 23:42 TheAngelofDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 23:34 Gregsen wrote:On August 31 2010 23:30 TheAngelofDeath wrote:On August 31 2010 23:28 Gregsen wrote:On August 31 2010 23:27 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
I hate Kespa and MBC for not negotiating. Don't blame Blizzard for wanting more money out of their game(I assume that's what the contract is about.) You, sir, are a total idiot. I guess I should elaborate more. But why repeat what someone above me already said? You sir, shouldn't be so hasty to call ppl stupid. On August 31 2010 22:47 hns wrote:
I don't get why everybody sees Blizzard/Gretech as the bad guys here.
Apparently OGN was able to negotiate/talk to Gretech in a suitable way and got it's contract. Gretech even offered the same conditions to MBC as they have with OGN. The situation was clear since Blizzard put Gretech in place and it's MBCs very own fault if they aren't able to adapt to a new situation.
Blizzard owns the copyrights and now that Kespa et al failed to recognize these for SC2, they were left with Gretech. If they are too stubborn to see that Blizzard has more pull in the long run, it's really their own fault. OGN managed to bite the bullet, MBC/Kespa didn't and apparently don't.
I can't see the main fault on Blizzard's side here. You can't really blame them to get their copyright stuff right for SC2 and they really don't have to swallow everything. They gave MBC/Kespa a lot of possibilities to handle the new situation and apparently these two are still too stubborn. So blame them, not Blizzard alone. I do recognize that Blizzard probably could have been a little more tolerant (well they left the running leagues alone) but I'm still on their side here. I recommend you to read the answers that were given to this post. OGN only got into negotiations with Gretech because they have a huge sponsor (korean air) backing them, and they had to put the new OSL format under the helm of sc2. Do you call this a fair basis for negotiations? How can you defend Blizzard in this case? They gave a fuck about their property rights since nearly a decade, were rather thankful that somebody promoted their game and company name so well, and now they just go in there and demand everything that korean esport build up for themselves? They had no influence whatsoever that the game got so big there. And now they just want to harvest the fruits of this hard work, acting like they just found out that their property is being used. I did read the responses, and while I do agree it was a very dick move, as I edited in my above post It's just business. They want more money, so they want the korean companies to transition into their new game, gain new promotion, new fans, more viewers, and sell more stuff SC2 related. Gaming industry's still a business, and as much as it may shock you all, Activision-Blizzard only care about the money side of things, it's clear they don't care about what the fans want. But it's their game, it's their choice, and if MBC doesn't want to negotiate with them, then Blizz can just tell them to go screw themselves, which is probably what they're doing. So yeah, its really messed up and rude, but it's their stuff, and they can do whatever they want with it.
The thing is that blizzard never thought that way. Many people thought of them as one of the last gaming companies who still care about fans and what they do to make esports grow. Blizzard changed so much into a greedy bastard company since they merged with Activision.
I can't believe that you cannot understand how people are blaming Blizzard right now. They act like cheap unthankful fucks. Rather you blame MBC for not giving up everything they did? Just imagine you to be in this situation. Imagine you to be one of the guys that dedicated the last 10 years of their lifes to Starcraft and its fans. If you were a true BW fan, you wouldn't talk like that.
It is also quite possible that the korean court has a very different view on this than Activision Blizzard. Chances that this comes to court are quite good.
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lol at everyone crying at blizzard like it's their fault. It's their property, they can do what they want. And whatever they're asking must be reasonably fair, since OGN didn't have a problem with negotiating a price.
If you rented a house for 10 yrs for $0, and even put work into the house to make it more lovely, and suddenly your landlord wanted you to start paying $500/mo, you'd get pissed?
If so, you've got issues.
edit: If you want your house for free forever, build your own dang house.
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