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Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia287 Posts
June 08 2010 18:33 GMT
#221
Don't have the money to buy this :/
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 18:34:46
June 08 2010 18:34 GMT
#222
It's the best RTS to come out since starcraft (aka, best RTS to come out in 12 YEARS!) , obviously I'm going to buy it.

edit: i like the new thread name
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
June 08 2010 18:35 GMT
#223
video game boycotts', just rofl
savior did nothing wrong
Chained
Profile Joined February 2010
United States137 Posts
June 08 2010 18:39 GMT
#224
Really the Poll should of been

Will Buy it
Boycott (heh)
Will wait and see

Im not going to say 95% of the people "boycotting" will end up buying it, but 95% are just waiting and seeing. And the other 5% never planned on buying it anyways.

I know personally, Ill be buying it. I still have a faith it will be fixed, Im not going to rely on it, but I have enough friends who I know will buy it, and will buy it just to have fun.

Also, its ridiculous. Im all for not supporting something you dont like, but doing things like, Openly saying youll pirate the game, calling Bnet 2.0 "0.2" or making stupid pictures, do you guys really think Blizzard will take that as a valid complaint? Its a 5 year old's reaction.... "Youre stupid" "YA WELL YOUR STUPIDEST". I mean seriously? Im just speaking from my own reactions, and quite frankly, Im going to take a well written response over people saying "Im going to pirate the game because Bnet 0.2 is stupid" And really the more people that do it, the more I would take the real criticism lightly...

Im all for complaining, but personally, be smart about it, or just shutup
Kafkaesk
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany140 Posts
June 08 2010 18:47 GMT
#225
I do not believe that even one user who is registred here, will never buy this game ever.
That's just bullshit.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
June 08 2010 18:49 GMT
#226
Buy it, give it a one star rating.
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
June 08 2010 18:50 GMT
#227
On June 09 2010 03:49 superbabosheki wrote:
Buy it, give it a one star rating.

and then shoot yourself in the foot?

i like the game -> i buy the game
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
June 08 2010 18:51 GMT
#228
On June 08 2010 19:24 killercheebo wrote:
Poll: Will you buy or boycott StarCraft 2?

Buy (1065)
 
78%

Boycott (308)
 
22%

1373 total votes

Your vote: Will you buy or boycott StarCraft 2?

(Vote): Buy
(Vote): Boycott



I myself also "used to be" a blizzard fan, playing all of the games they have ever released (sc bw, d2, wc3, wow, etc).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128252
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128014

Show nested quote +

In 2008, as reported by Forbes magazine, Robert Kotick received nearly $15 million USD in salary, benefits, options and incentives for his work with Activision Blizzard, of which $899,560 was his actual salary.

Some of his quotes:
"We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games."

Kotick later stated he tries to promote an atmosphere of "skepticism, pessimism, and fear" in his company and, "We are very good at keeping people focused on the deep depression."[13]


I've read numerous threads on TL which complained the way blizzard is taking, and their overall policies. I read all of the blue posts, and all of the interviews with the developers.


However, none of these are surprising or are anything new to me. I played WoW for years until latest expansions and personally experienced the way blizzard handles things and their policies toward WoW playerbase. They never listen to the community, unless it is a suggestion that can generate them more money. Of all the suggestions and proposed balance changes players posted on forums, only suggestions they accepted were things like paid name change service, paid character server transfer, in game mounts that cost $20, etc.

I was able to foresee the direction the B.net 0.2 will be taking ever since they forced WoW players into merging their accounts to a new "battle.net account". New b.net 0.2 is exactly like how WoW or other MMORPG servers work. Its definately very un-RTS like. Things like regional locking, "characters (lol?)", parties (SC2 =/= RPG), and achievements (direct ripoff from WoW). I repeat, SC2 is an RTS, not an MMO like WoW. Even their new matchmaking system is completely taken from WoW's arena matchmaking system, which became worse in latest expansion, by the way. Blizzard believes that since WoW made them so much cash, turning SC2 into another WoW would yield them more money. In fact, one of the probable reasons why they are incorporating so much WOW bullshit into SC2 is to attract their vast reservoir of WOW gamers into buying SC2. Remember that tauren marine april fools joke? And lot of the units (roaches, stalker, immortal, etc) looks like those nerubian WC3 / WOW units.

Blizzard did say they will add things like chat rooms in the future. However, I know for 100% sure that there will be NO LAN in this game. There will also be no cross-regional play, since that is completely incompatible with how the new B.net 0.2 works. Afterall, blizzard wants customers to buy one copy of the game for each of the regions. I myself have a US and EU realm WoW accounts, and they're completely separate and incompatible with one another.



Therefore, don't expect any significant change for B.net 0.2 as it was in beta, except for addition of chat rooms. Only other differences will be that there will be bunch of extra "paid" features. In fact, they even stated that they planned on monetizing on player-made custom maps. Plus Blizz has reputation of taking months fix even simplest bugs in WoW. Rogue's vanish has been bugged since 2006 and still never been fixed.


Overall, 2008 and onwards blizzard has transformed into another EA like company that nickel dimes the gamers and neglect them completely pretty much. This is why I am going to boycott SC2 and all of the future blizzard products (D3, WoW-cataclysm, etc).

P.S. i will only buy this game if they add LAN and cross server play.

By the way, sign this LAN petition (over 250,000 sigs so far)
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/LANSC2/




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126834

made a very similar post about this a bit ago
JD, need I say more? :D
Skeyser
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada219 Posts
June 08 2010 18:56 GMT
#229
[B]On June 08 2010 19:24 killercheebo wrote:Overall, 2008 and onwards blizzard has transformed into another EA like company that nickel dimes the gamers and neglect them completely pretty much. This is why I am going to boycott SC2 and all of the future blizzard products (D3, WoW-cataclysm, etc).


This is so wrong, comparing Blizzard to fucking EA.

Last time I checked Blizzard are still delivering AAA games.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5558 Posts
June 08 2010 18:56 GMT
#230
On June 09 2010 03:39 Chained wrote:
Really the Poll should of been

Will Buy it
Boycott (heh)
Will wait and see

Im not going to say 95% of the people "boycotting" will end up buying it, but 95% are just waiting and seeing. And the other 5% never planned on buying it anyways.

I know personally, Ill be buying it. I still have a faith it will be fixed, Im not going to rely on it, but I have enough friends who I know will buy it, and will buy it just to have fun.

Also, its ridiculous. Im all for not supporting something you dont like, but doing things like, Openly saying youll pirate the game, calling Bnet 2.0 "0.2" or making stupid pictures, do you guys really think Blizzard will take that as a valid complaint? Its a 5 year old's reaction.... "Youre stupid" "YA WELL YOUR STUPIDEST". I mean seriously? Im just speaking from my own reactions, and quite frankly, Im going to take a well written response over people saying "Im going to pirate the game because Bnet 0.2 is stupid" And really the more people that do it, the more I would take the real criticism lightly...

Im all for complaining, but personally, be smart about it, or just shutup


Well, your analysis is wrong.

I intended to buy it but will definitely not buy it unless they fix most of the issues.
Go0g3n
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Russian Federation410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 19:14:38
June 08 2010 19:02 GMT
#231
Not buying is the only comprehensive form of delivering the message to Blizzard or any developer. Worked on Activision, they already announced next CoD to have dedicated servers. Worked on EA, they are completely reworking they development cycles to make better games, releasing them every 2-2.5 years instead of every 13 months. Worked on Bioware to do away with micro-transactions in the upcoming SW:TOR. Probably gonna work on Ubi as well to ditch their protection system which turned out to be useless.

StarCraft II is shaping up to be a good interesting game, if it happens to not have the required features, players sure as hell will find out to how to make stuff happen, then you'll get pirated servers registered in Laos, eventually resulting in iCCup 2.0: a service that will be offering a multi-regional play, better ladder system, all the communicational features, regularly updated and modified map pools, more or less decent counter-abuse measures and everything you expect from the game of this caliber, - and all of that without "Blizzard must be notified of any commercial and sponsored tournament" and "All personal information can be shared by Blizzard..." and so on.
HTFU
Profile Joined June 2010
Ireland1 Post
June 08 2010 19:05 GMT
#232
Wait a minute, I've seen that before.

http://www.full-metal-jacket.net/dzcp/inc/tinymce_files/modern_warfare_2_boykott.jpg
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 19:06:48
June 08 2010 19:06 GMT
#233
On June 09 2010 04:05 HTFU wrote:
Wait a minute, I've seen that before.

http://www.full-metal-jacket.net/dzcp/inc/tinymce_files/modern_warfare_2_boykott.jpg



Wait no Ive seen that before

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/15/call-of-duty-black-ops-to-feature-dedicated-pc-servers/
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Skeyser
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada219 Posts
June 08 2010 19:08 GMT
#234
On June 09 2010 04:06 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 04:05 HTFU wrote:
Wait a minute, I've seen that before.

http://www.full-metal-jacket.net/dzcp/inc/tinymce_files/modern_warfare_2_boykott.jpg



Wait no Ive seen that before

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/15/call-of-duty-black-ops-to-feature-dedicated-pc-servers/


You can't compare no dedicated servers to no lan or chat rooms.

No dedicated servers on a PC shooter is the most retarded thing possible, it's the equivalent of making it so you can't make custom games in SC.
Jalex
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom35 Posts
June 08 2010 19:08 GMT
#235
Of course I'm going to buy the game. And despite its current shortcomings, I am positive the game will sell extraordinarily well, making a 'boycott' totally futile.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 19:18:06
June 08 2010 19:09 GMT
#236
Theirs so much knee jerking in this OP that I can't even begin to address it.

There are many valid reasons to boycott Starcraft 2. The present lack of chat channels for one.The ones the OP presents are terrible.

I'd just like to point out calling Blizzard "Blizzard Activision" is blatant sensationalism. Blizzard Entertainment is an independent subsidiary of "Activision Blizzard". It would be as illogical and irrelevent as calling "Activision Blizzard" "Vivendi SA".
Too Busy to Troll!
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
June 08 2010 19:10 GMT
#237
Every time a developer changes course in development:
- If people like it it's "the developer caves to community pressure"
- If people hate it it's "the developer just ignores it's customers"

Sometimes the community both understates and overstates it's power. You can bring items to the top of Blizz's docket, but you can't force them to change their mind. It's not that we don't have power, but we don't get to design their games. Sometimes we do come up with good ideas that they end up liking and using, but we can't force them to do something they don't want to do just to "shut us up."
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
shalafi
Profile Joined July 2008
394 Posts
June 08 2010 19:11 GMT
#238
I won't really boycott it, I just won't buy it because I'm not that interested.

I'm interested in SC2 as much as in DoW2 or CoH. I'll buy it on the first price drop.
Lugus
Profile Joined March 2010
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 19:16:06
June 08 2010 19:15 GMT
#239
Boycotting is pointless. For every one person who says they're taking a stance by not buying SC2, 20 others will gladly buy. It's how the market works. Blizzard will still make massive profits from the game.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 19:17:01
June 08 2010 19:16 GMT
#240
However, none of these are surprising or are anything new to me. I played WoW for years until latest expansions and personally experienced the way blizzard handles things and their policies toward WoW playerbase. They never listen to the community, unless it is a suggestion that can generate them more money. Of all the suggestions and proposed balance changes players posted on forums, only suggestions they accepted were things like paid name change service, paid character server transfer, in game mounts that cost $20, etc.


Every single change we see today is the result of listening to the community. Perhaps what you mean is "Blizzard never listens to me". I can find you multiple 10+ page threads of people suggesting the 3rd expansion should be a return to azeroth, a 20+ page thread about how increasing levels by 10 every expansion is unsustainable, about dividing raids into 10 and 25 man versions, and of having 10 and 25 mode versions of raids have an independent "normal" and "heroic" modes activatable by some menu.

I can even find you a 12+ page thread suggesting that blizzard sell vanity items for cash.

I played WoW for a year and quit.
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