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nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
July 15 2010 06:40 GMT
#581
Sound card isn't really necessary, and it frees up your budget for stuff that makes a more noticeable difference, like a better graphics card.

AM2+ motherboards aren't compatible with ddr3 RAM.

Everything else looks fine, I'm assuming your budget is ~$750?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 15 2010 06:43 GMT
#582
You just want to tell us the amount that you are willing to spend and let us put something together for you?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
nas3
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States16 Posts
July 15 2010 06:46 GMT
#583
Id love that frag im looking for ~750-800 excluding monitor and keyboard and stuff like that.
nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
July 15 2010 06:47 GMT
#584
Are you expecting to pay for Windows?
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 06:52:35
July 15 2010 06:50 GMT
#585
The build that KulSsunG just bought is pretty much perfect if you take out the Windows 7 and Monitor.

+ another SATA Cable.

All these builds being posted... usually you get 1 sata cable from the Mobo. That's enough for either optical or HD. So aren't they still lacking an extra sata cable?
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 15 2010 06:55 GMT
#586
yeah nas you could just use the build I compiled earlier today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.436925
Phenom II X4 955 + Gigabyte 870 Motherboard
$250

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215
Cooler Master 690ii
$70

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231190
4GB GSkill DDR3
$92

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.431396
Samsung F3 1TB + Corsair 650W (definitely overkill, but it isn't a bad value)
$145

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121387
ASUS GTX 460
$200
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873
Sapphire 5770
$150
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102024
Sound card
$80

Not sure why you need a sound card though. Integrated is plenty good for most end users.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
nas3
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States16 Posts
July 15 2010 07:03 GMT
#587
Yeah I could take out the sound card I just read some thingy and it said that I NEEDED to get a sound card but if I really dont im not some soundwhore and all that stuff is compatible and looks good thanks a bunch frag
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:07:59
July 15 2010 07:05 GMT
#588
^Build posted above with GTX 460

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With tax of 62.20 and shipping of 1.99 Grand total is $818.12
a bit over but you could replace the ram with a less "flashy" version like
this
or
this with EMCYVYW28 promo code <-actually this one is better than the one in your build so might as well switch it.
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nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
July 15 2010 07:40 GMT
#589
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[image loading]


Why spend $50 more on a power supply or $20 more on a motherboard if you aren't going to use all of the features? You could spend it on something that provides more immediate benefit. A 5850 1GB is better than a 460 768MB, though it's overkill for SC2.

That being said, if you are planning on upgrading in the future, better options have been posted.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
July 15 2010 09:11 GMT
#590
So GTX460 is the new bang for buck huh?
Rillanon.au
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 09:30:46
July 15 2010 09:26 GMT
#591
On July 15 2010 18:11 haduken wrote:
So GTX460 is the new bang for buck huh?


Its so good that its made the 465, 470, and 480 useless. Its cheap, small, quiet, doesn't draw a stupid amount of power, isn't very hot, performs well, overclocks well, and in a few cases has nearly 100% SLI scaling (double FPS which means it crushes the 5970 and 480 for only $400).
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
July 15 2010 10:06 GMT
#592
Sweet, was waiting for a nvidia card. All my friends with 5770 had nothing but trouble with stability + needed something that has good Linux support as well.
Rillanon.au
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 10:18:09
July 15 2010 10:09 GMT
#593
Make sure you get a good 1gb version. It seems like 768mb is a bit of a bottleneck for some games, especially at higher resolutions. At a $20 premium it's more than worth it.

I'd say this looks like a good bet (that heatsink fan is huuuuge and looks like it actually works), but there's no reviews for it yet so don't take my word.

There's an article on it on hardwaresecrets.com if you search that video card on google, but you can't access it yet I'm assuming it's still being written.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
July 15 2010 10:13 GMT
#594
Well, in Australia, it's more like $70 dollars premium.

Are we talking about 1920x1080?
Rillanon.au
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 10:25:19
July 15 2010 10:21 GMT
#595
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3810/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-part-2-the-vendor-cards/7

Overall the impact of overclocking is heavily game dependent. Core overclocking favors games that are ROP/shader limited and has little effectiveness on games that are limited by the total available RAM or by memory bandwidth. For this reason out of our subset of games core overclocking was most effective on Battleforge and Bad Company 2, while only moderately effective on Crysis and STALKER. On Crysis and STALKER overclocking was at best only marginally more useful than having a 1GB card.

The big winner here with respect to performance is the Zotac card, thanks almost exclusively to its 1GB configuration, affording additional RAM/L2/ROPs. Of our 768MB cards the Asus comes ahead most of the time as expected thanks to its greater core overclock, but it does manage to fall to the overclocked EVGA card under Crysis where the latter’s greater stock memory clock clearly offers an advantage.

Currently the sweet spot would look to be a 1GB card with a lesser overclock, which isn’t great news for the overclocking-focused EVGA and Asus cards in this roundup. While they are cheaper than a full 1GB card, they still carry a price over MSRP which cuts in to the gap between 768MB and 1GB cards. Ultimately the additional RAM/L2/ROPs more than makes up for the higher overclocks the 768MB cards can attain in most situations.


Yeah, according to the benchmarks, at 1920x1200 you need more physical RAM to keep up. Overclocking doesn't compensate well enough.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 15 2010 16:12 GMT
#596
You're reading his comment wrong. Many games are not as demanding on the memory as Crysis and STALKER and are more intensive in what the GPU actually has to do. Memory bandwidth and total RAM are also two different things. Memory bandwidth is actually helped by overclocking the memory of the card.

Its so good that its made the 465, 470, and 480 useless. Its cheap, small, quiet, doesn't draw a stupid amount of power, isn't very hot, performs well, overclocks well, and in a few cases has nearly 100% SLI scaling (double FPS which means it crushes the 5970 and 480 for only $400).


Let's not try to overhype this card. It may be the best thing since the 5850, but the GTX 470 is still a very valid card (considering how cheap those things go for now). The GTX 465 was obsolete the second it came out :>
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Easy772
Profile Joined May 2010
374 Posts
July 15 2010 21:01 GMT
#597
Hey guys, looking the best low-profile video card that would allow me to run SC2 on lowest settings but at optimal performance.. Trying to spend around $50 if Absolutely necessary I can go up to around $100 (I only use this computer during breaks at work and when I'm working late so It doesn't have to be the best).. Also please note that this rig only has a 250w Power supply so that would be an issue to consider.
"The best way to improve is to play one matchup on one map doing one strategy.. if you are good at one strategy you are a good player, if you are okay at many strategies you are an okay player at best" -Day[9] 181
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
July 15 2010 21:03 GMT
#598
On July 16 2010 06:01 Easy772 wrote:
Hey guys, looking the best low-profile video card that would allow me to run SC2 on lowest settings but at optimal performance.. Trying to spend around $50 if Absolutely necessary I can go up to around $100 (I only use this computer during breaks at work and when I'm working late so It doesn't have to be the best).. Also please note that this rig only has a 250w Power supply so that would be an issue to consider.


Pretty much any current video card can handle SC2 well on lowest settings. My three year old laptop with integrated graphics does just fine, so anything you get nowadays should have no problems.
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Easy772
Profile Joined May 2010
374 Posts
July 15 2010 21:10 GMT
#599
On July 16 2010 06:03 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 06:01 Easy772 wrote:
Hey guys, looking the best low-profile video card that would allow me to run SC2 on lowest settings but at optimal performance.. Trying to spend around $50 if Absolutely necessary I can go up to around $100 (I only use this computer during breaks at work and when I'm working late so It doesn't have to be the best).. Also please note that this rig only has a 250w Power supply so that would be an issue to consider.


Pretty much any current video card can handle SC2 well on lowest settings. My three year old laptop with integrated graphics does just fine, so anything you get nowadays should have no problems.



Awesome, thanks! So what low-profile card (~ $50) would give me the best "bang for my buck" sort of speak.
"The best way to improve is to play one matchup on one map doing one strategy.. if you are good at one strategy you are a good player, if you are okay at many strategies you are an okay player at best" -Day[9] 181
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
July 15 2010 21:11 GMT
#600
I'm not exactly sure, seeing as how I haven't owned a desktop computer in almost a decade, but desktop graphics capabilities are generally better than those of laptops, so you should have no trouble finding something to suit your needs. Hopefully someone else can give you a specific recommendation.
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