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On July 16 2010 06:11 Empyrean wrote: I'm not exactly sure, seeing as how I haven't owned a desktop computer in almost a decade, but desktop graphics capabilities are generally better than those of laptops, so you should have no trouble finding something to suit your needs. Hopefully someone else can give you a specific recommendation.
Yeah, I'm probably ordering it tonight, so maybe I'll just check out some reviews.
Thanks again
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Easy772: Ati HD 4650, ATi HD 4670, Nvidia 9600 GSO
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I'm wondering if I will get a noticeable improvement (i.e. be able to play sc2 on at least medium and world of warcraft on the settings I want with a good frame rate) by upgrading my video card.
Current performance: Currently 3v3/4v4 late game in sc2 even on low settings causes big problems.. 1v1 and 2v2 I have no problems running on medium except if carrier mother ship comes out.
In wow i get about 25 fps in dalaran.. 40ish outside of a city.. but in 25 man raids boss fights it drops down to 6 fps (that has forced me to pretty much only run 10 man raids to avoid the issue)
Current stats: Acer AM5100-E5402A OS: win7 64bit Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 quad Ram: 4GB DDR2 nVidia GeForce 8600 GS (OEM version of an 8600.. I did run some program to tell me the specs awhile ago but I forget exactly what they were. basically its a slower underclock card)
Question: Would upgrading the vid card let me run 30+ fps in 25 man raids and let me play 3v3 games in sc2??? Or would the system just bottle neck somewhere else.. I figure new vid card and psu to power the new card and I would be good to go. And what card should I get, that does what I want but is not overkill.. My Goal is to run sc2 and wow smoothly for another year or maybe two and then get a new computer.
Budget: 150-200$
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I would suggest getting an Nvidia GTS 250 512MB for around $100 if you want a card that will get you over. If you want to spend the full $150-200, then you can get an ATi HD 5770 or an Nvidia GTX 460.
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yeah I was looking at the 9600 gso as well.. For sure this will run with a 250w power supply? I'm looking on Amazon because I get free shipping from them 
Edit: and are also low profile?
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they should all be low profile. (or rather single slot)
250W should be fine for the 4650 and 4670 I think. 4650 is probably the safer bet. I believe the GSO will work as well.
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Okay cool, because I'm not super tech savvy and if it doesn't say low profile in the description I'm not sure if it will fit. Thanks for the help man.
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Wait, doesn't the CM 690 II use the plastic hard drive encasements that you just pop in and out?
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Yeah you just slide it in.
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I know I can slide the bay in, I just need to put in the white rubber "grommet" nubs in, but I can't.
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You just need to get the hard drive in. Maybe you're being too gentle? I didn't have any problems with my 692 build.
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Never built inside a 690, but I did build inside a 922 which should use the same hdd system. I don't remember any grommets and I just slid the HDDs in. I don't really think you need them...
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Ohhhhhhh. See what I was doing was taking out the grommets, putting in the hard drive, then trying to put in the grommets.
I didn't know you could just force the hard drive into the pins... that doesn't sound safe at all.
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http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=800767&t=2127580
For those people looking to buy a $200 card, the GTX 470 can be gotten for $205 out-the-door about now (free shipping, no tax in most states). I went for the GTX 460 myself because I plan to eventually SLI it + I wanted a shorter card, but the GTX 470 is pretty decent for $205.
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The GTX 470 is an absolute STEAL at $205.
by the way, please post what the product is above the Newegg link. It's a bit annoying clicking through every link to see what is what.
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