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Good to know there are people who don't understand statistics...
Granted, I think rank shouldn't be based on your division per se - I think it should be absolutely based on percentile, but divisions are certainly more representative of your overall rank than an all-inclusive ladder.
The problem with divisions is that they're not really large enough - if they were a bit larger, the chance that a player who's capable of, say, top 10 plat OVERALL is in any given division is a bit higher than 100 people per.
Regardless, they're a pretty decent indicator of your overall rank compared to all platinum/gold/silver/bronze/copper players.
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On May 08 2010 02:34 bodysnatcher21 wrote: Alot of people are saying that we should focus on the validity of someones argument, rather then their rank/rating. I actually agree with that.
This +1 To many elitist that automatically say " you are copper, or bronze or silver or gold' therefore, you're opinion is invalid."
I'm 1440 something in sliver, but I am consistently beating mid high gold players and low plat players...got screwed in placements . I have been waiting to move to gold for a while.
Hate the actual bnet forums where people look up your stats and post them, hasn't happened to me but I've seen it done often.
Edit: I have also lost to bronze players who were better than me. It's easy for a bad player to get 5 easy placements or for a good player to get 5 hard ones and they will both end up in the wrong division. I feel everyone should start in silver and then you work your way up or down.
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everyone i think knows this but when they say "im #1 or #2 plat" it sounds better, ppl that give a rating like that are trying to brag, there not trying to be legit, ppl still dont understand that it is beta, and think that b/c they plat they're insain
just my 2 cents
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On May 08 2010 05:39 CharlieMurphy wrote: I thought the rating was based on a per division basis (meaning it was useless outside your division as ranking is concerned) It's not ELO.
You are correct, and if you look at page 1-3 ish you will see me arguing this point. Yet this thread has suddenly been irreversibly drowned by "hey im gold but i beat plat k" "lol u nubs dont know statistics" "whats timing" responses.
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hihi, so 1700 platinum rating on korean server=really good?
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On May 08 2010 06:42 Mobius wrote: hihi, so 1700 platinum rating on korean server=really good?
whats your rank? 5? if your 5 or below your automatically good.
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lets hope they get rid of this with the main release (although I doubt it). I see absolutely 0 point to divisions -_- unless they did them geographically or something which COULD be kind of cool.
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On May 08 2010 06:42 Mobius wrote: hihi, so 1700 platinum rating on korean server=really good?
Nope, means you're a douchebag.
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On May 08 2010 06:46 condoriano wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2010 06:42 Mobius wrote: hihi, so 1700 platinum rating on korean server=really good? Nope, means you're a douchebag. -.- i dont get it
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soo much rage why even make a thread about this?
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On May 08 2010 06:50 UbiNax wrote:soo much rage  why even make a thread about this?
why put a in your sentence?
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where do you check the rating?
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On May 08 2010 06:50 UbiNax wrote:soo much rage  why even make a thread about this?
Because of soo much rage obviously
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On May 08 2010 06:52 Synwave wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2010 06:50 UbiNax wrote:soo much rage  why even make a thread about this? Because of soo much rage obviously 
But but.. i thought we didnt like rage!
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Thank you for making a thread on this
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On May 08 2010 02:38 Fayth wrote: the whole ladder doesn't mean much imo, except that platinums are generally better than gold, apart from that, it's really really bad.... 150 platinum divisions lol "NICE I GOT PROMOTED TO PLAT... not"
I'm silver league rating 1400 and beat a plat player the other day. . . it was a PvP and I scouted after 9 pylon to see nothing in his base, assumed proxy, went 2-gate and started pumping zealots. my econ was better than his, so I put up a 3rd gate, and squashed him.
but, I'm bad because I'm not in gold or plat
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On May 08 2010 04:36 Ursad0n wrote: I don't think scores are too accurate though. When i got promoted to Platinum from my Gold i started with 933 points. So unless someone knows why that happened I do not approve of the points system in its current state.
I'm at the opposite end. When I got promoted from gold to platinum, my point total was initially set at around 1030. When, however, the us server came back after some "maintenance" my point total was back at the 1445 I apparently had when I was promoted from gold.
so here I am, sitting at #1 in a new platinum division, without ever having played a 1v1 as a platinum player myself
apparently 1400+ gold = 1400+ platinum :p
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On May 08 2010 02:36 HuskyTheHusky wrote:I'm rank 1 Gold in 2v2 with my friend who hasn't played SC since 2000. 
im rank 1 gold too in 2v2...and I'm a Bronze league player....needless to say...my friend carries me
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On May 08 2010 05:39 CharlieMurphy wrote: I thought the rating was based on a per division basis (meaning it was useless outside your division as ranking is concerned) It's not ELO.
QFT
How do people who argue that ratings is a better measure figure the bonus pool works?
Right now there isn't really any way to get credibility besides having solid arguments and good replays. Anything else isn't relevant with how the ladder works.
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I'm not so sure. You have to take into account that someone in a much older division has also had a lot more time to get their 2000 rating. So perhaps your rank is the more accurate measurement.
That being said, i'm pretty consistently in the top 5 of my division (and the guy in first isn't super impressive, so i'm sure if i just put the games in i'd overtake him), and I don't feel at all like i'm a great player or anything. I'm not even sure being in platinum at all really means much at this point.
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