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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
May 09 2010 22:03 GMT
#201
On May 10 2010 06:07 heishe wrote:
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On May 10 2010 05:52 On_Slaught wrote:
Regardless of how the system does work, I think we would all agree that it SHOULD work in a way where you can compare players across divisions.


This will be the case. At the moment we're looking at very small timespans and a small amount of people playing the game, but when the game ships and we have very long seasons of several months (6+ usually) where every good platinum player will play a shitton of games, the rating in your platinum ladder should be a very good indicator of your hidden ELO rating. This will just be a case of a mathematical equilibrium that will balance itself out over time (albeit of course not perfectly).

At the moment (like Dustin Browder said) the average player plays about 20 games a week. Since the last reset that is what? 40-60 games on average per account? It does about equal the amount of games I see on accounts when I play (I'm ~1550 Platinum with about 80 games). That isn't even close to what a mathematically relevant sample size would be. When we have seasons where most active players have 300+ games on their accounts, that will be representable for the skill.


Wonderful. I was just going to post essentially this exact explanation. I felt I did a good job of explaining just this in the last few pages, but I suppose that some just skim over them rather than read my (admittedly lengthy) posts.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 09 2010 22:10 GMT
#202
I am platinum 999. If you're lucky like me, you will get 5 complete noobs in your placement matches. I probably belong in gold or silver.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
In)Spire
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1323 Posts
May 09 2010 22:25 GMT
#203
Just curious. What ELO Rating do top foreigners generally have at the moment?
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
May 09 2010 22:27 GMT
#204
On May 08 2010 03:56 Logo wrote:
Won't the path you take to get to platinum affect your rating? Getting placed into platinum initially means you're going to start at 1000 platinum points and playing probably anyone else that's in platinum with a lower hidden rating. Working your way up from Bronze/Silver/Gold means your hidden rating is much more accurate, and likely much higher. Yet when you first enter platinum you're still going to get set to 1000 platinum points.

Over a very large # of games it may even out, but until you get to that point the #s aren't comparable. They may also never become comparable since you will have multiple opportunities to win points from someone who's 1000 platinum, but really should be 750 platinum or in Gold.


lol that's not true, I've moved up to Platinum from silver after about 100 games. When I moved up from Silver I had about 1300ish points in silver leagure. Yet when I started out in gold, I only had 970 points. Then after reaching 1400ish in Gold and moving up to Platinum, I started out with about 1081.

I really don't think there's any way short of blizzard telling us how the ranking system/match-making system works. =\
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