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zealing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada806 Posts
March 29 2010 00:06 GMT
#21
getting coaching right now is kinda pointless since its the beta, i had a epic roach rush build till they patched it in like no4-5. wait till the game is out then if you still want some good help, try that gosucoaching site
Think you got lag? It took Jesus 3 days to respawn.
DeSam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium84 Posts
April 13 2010 19:48 GMT
#22
im looking for a coach too!

but im a europe player,
all the coaches from gosucoaching.com are for america :/
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 13 2010 19:51 GMT
#23
http:www.gosucoaching.com and get psyonicreaver to help you
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
April 13 2010 22:49 GMT
#24
hmm, insta advice?

never stop making drones/probes.

Scout.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
April 13 2010 22:58 GMT
#25
its not the right time for a coach.. we are all learning about sc2, just keep playing and watching the latest replay from "sc 2 replay thread" i started in copper division 3 weeks ago.. now im 25 in gold division.. "impossible its nothing" XD
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
tenpromicro
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States119 Posts
April 13 2010 23:23 GMT
#26
All RTS games are about scouting.. if you always know where your enemy is and what he is doing, you'll have the upper hand almost all the time if you know what you are doing
DeSam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium84 Posts
April 14 2010 14:30 GMT
#27
i contacted psyonicreaver but he doesnt have EU acces either :/
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
April 14 2010 14:54 GMT
#28
Add me

Frost.stropheum

I don't mind playing against you and telling you what you could be doing better. You can keep your money
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
April 14 2010 14:55 GMT
#29
www.scaudios.com is good. I was a plat zerg before the ladder reset and I'm gold now but started out playing random. Most my games are 2vs2 since the reset but I can try to help you out if you wanna upload some reps. What mu's are you having problems with? What's your standard opening?
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
April 14 2010 15:06 GMT
#30
On March 28 2010 10:39 Viruuus wrote:
Basically, the same things that help in poker, will help in starcraft and vice versa.

You need:
1.) Technique: knowing which unit counters which other unit well and how to get that unit asap
2.) Gameplan: Know what you want to do vs your opponents race, find out what he is doing to counter you / what he is opening with, then use 1.)
3.) Execution: Microing/Macroing (especially during battle. This can pretty much only be improved by practising.



I would expand on this with my own approach to the game. The things i think you need are:

1) Knowledge: Understand what counters what and what unit combos work well against others, basically the same point

2) Adaptability: Being able to see a strange build and know what to do against it. You see someone posturing for a timing push, you know when to cut drones and mass units. Learn not to overreact or underreact

3) Stability of play: Learn when to place pylons/depots/overlords so you don't get capped. DO NOT learn other peoples' build orders. Figure out what you want to do in each matchup, figure out what timings you want for everything, then you'll start to realize "hey, if i make my gas right after my second hatch i'll be able to get my lair right after i saturate drones" and things like this. When you develop your own builds through constant refinement then you can see what other people are doing and try to incorporate their ideas into your builds.

I can't stress how important overall awareness is. When i first got back into SC1 i was looking at build orders like "why the hell does it tell me to place a hatch at x supply?". It makes sense though, because people who refined their own builds to the point where they were most efficient realized these timings and understood them, which means these players will know how to adapt their builds when they're faced with any situation
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
April 14 2010 15:24 GMT
#31
Have you listened to Day[9] podcasts?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89581

After listening to his podcasts, I improved from D to D+ in SC1. I don't see why it wouldn't also work for SC2. I'd suggest listening to everything but race specifics, since their not exactly the same for SC2.

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On March 28 2010 09:28 goszar wrote:
I trained my APM for a month or two using various programs.

I dont see the point of this.
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
April 14 2010 15:33 GMT
#32
The best help you can possible ever get (for free) is from Day[9] Daily's.
This is some wicked podcast that has so much in-depth analisys, that me - the uber master noob, is currently in the top half of my gold division. Comparing that to D-/D @ iCCup seems like a freaking huge gap to me. I was expecting that I land in Bronze at max.
I've been watching him for like 2-3 weeks now. And I only have gotten my key like ... less then a week ago. I have totally played like 20-22 games so far, coz I really like to rest back, clear my mind, then watch my replay and then, if I feel like it, I play another game, so quite often I end up with a only a game or two for an entire day.
But hey - I, the noob, am 45th in my Gold Division, with 22 games played and under one week of actual having SC2 Beta. I think that speaks for itself more then anything else.
... Humanity Is Not What I Suffer From ...
DeSam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 16:29:52
April 14 2010 16:28 GMT
#33
hmm my MU troubles are, ZvP when protoss goes collossi with sentries
ZvZ vs mass mutas
and ZvT against tanks

any advice for those MU's would be great!

thats very impressive speed, keep it up! im currently top8 in silver but im stuck there for quite a bit now :/

frost i coudnt add you i think your on US server
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
April 14 2010 16:39 GMT
#34
On March 28 2010 10:39 Viruuus wrote:
Basically, the same things that help in poker, will help in starcraft and vice versa.

You need:
1.) Technique: knowing which unit counters which other unit well and how to get that unit asap
2.) Gameplan: Know what you want to do vs your opponents race, find out what he is doing to counter you / what he is opening with, then use 1.)
3.) Execution: Microing/Macroing (especially during battle. This can pretty much only be improved by practising.


And the ability to adapt if a plan fails.
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
April 14 2010 16:39 GMT
#35
You should really try contacting gosucoaching for lessons. They are really helpful and incontrols one of the best (most patient) advisors to the game.

Also read the Broodwar strategy threads by Chill and Legionnaire which would help you get the basics down.
DeSam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium84 Posts
April 14 2010 16:41 GMT
#36
does incontrol have a EU beta key?
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
April 14 2010 17:36 GMT
#37
Not sure what PokerStar funds are and if they can be turned into real cash but if you're interested in ~16 Plat (Currently and 8 Plat highest so far) coach, I'd like to help! ^^

JK! I feel bad taking someone's money to teach them to play a game I'm not 100% good at myself... best advice would be Day[9].tv, liquipedia II, and threads on TL... it's still in beta... the game isn't even out yet! You have nothing to worry about... you'll get better eventually! Just gather as much knowledge as you possibly can by watching replays/VOD's and reading stuff...

Find a good practice partner and play with him... practice, practice, practice!

BTW, kudos on ~600 games!!! O.O I wish I had the time....... xD
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
Roniii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States289 Posts
April 14 2010 17:47 GMT
#38
I am not really a pro or anything but would be happy to play with you and give you pointers. I mostly play 2v2 though. 4th in platinum. Terran player.

Ron.Ron if you want to add me.
you think as i do
hoovehand
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 18:01:03
April 14 2010 17:56 GMT
#39
op - do this:

On March 28 2010 10:39 Viruuus wrote:
Basically, the same things that help in poker, will help in starcraft and vice versa.

You need:
1.) Technique: knowing which unit counters which other unit well and how to get that unit asap
2.) Gameplan: Know what you want to do vs your opponents race, find out what he is doing to counter you / what he is opening with, then use 1.)
3.) Execution: Microing/Macroing (especially during battle. This can pretty much only be improved by practising.



i totally agree with this. although the essentially obvious but undoubtedly MOST IMPORTANT things are:

a) you should be making workers NON STOP (allowing for essential upgrade), in other words your command centre/nexus/hatchery should be doing something 24/7. never forget to make more workers, this ensures that your opponent should never have a bigger bank account early-mid game.

b) you should keep your minerals as low as possible by making an army and getting only the ESSENTIAL upgrades (don't get ling speed unless you're planning to actually use speedlings etc). if you can't spend it fast enough then you should have built extra barracks etc.

this gives you a level playing field, your opponent should have a similar sized army to your - and unless you hide in base and let him capture 2-3 extra bases then you should be able to put up a fight.
Mentat
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada74 Posts
April 14 2010 17:58 GMT
#40
Buy the game for $60, and then pay someone $20-40 an hour to help you become better at it ? (results not guaranteed)

"gosu coaching" is massively overpriced.

Read the strategy forum, watch replays of better players. Think critically.
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