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WheelOfTime
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada331 Posts
January 26 2010 05:27 GMT
#1
Long story short:

Facts:

Friend A - Female, 19, female friend for 2 years, in a different program of study at the same university as me, decent looking, never had a real relationship in her life. Let's call her Cathy.

Friend B - Male, 20, male friend for 13 years, in the same program of study at the same university as me, going to live with me next term on campus. Let's call him Tom.

Cathy got to know Tom through me at a party last year, and this year it's become pretty clear she really likes Tom.

Tom has a GF of 1 year, and we talk about everything, he told me that he likes Cathy only for her looks, went out with her on a few dates and got to kiss her, going to keep it up and try to get her to sleep with him.

I feel Cathy is going to get hurt quite profusely down this road. So I'm inclined to say something to her as she's a really innocent and nice person.

I also feel obligated to uphold the implied confidentially between Tom and I as he put his trust in me by telling me what he intended to do in the first place.

Your thoughts on this matter?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 05:30:01
January 26 2010 05:29 GMT
#2
Bros before hoes has a limit. If you honestly believe that he is going to hurt her very badly, then you should do something. Don't tell her to gtfo but maybe just give her a little bit of info to help her decide for herself if she wants to proceed?

Alternately, get Tom to discuss more with you and express your disapproval of her getting hurt. If he isn't willing to cooperate see above.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
January 26 2010 05:40 GMT
#3
you never tell on a friend like that what the fuck
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
January 26 2010 05:41 GMT
#4
I wouldn't go straight to telling the girl, give your friend a chance by talking to him honestly about it for a bit. Hopefully he'll do the right thing
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
January 26 2010 05:44 GMT
#5
well you cant tell her lol thats just breaking the code.. What you can do is like talk to her and maybe make her like him less? lol I dunno... Just make sure she isnt in love. Start easing the pain early
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 05:48:04
January 26 2010 05:46 GMT
#6
I don't spend much time on the blogs here on TL, but most of the time when I do and I find people soliciting advice from complete strangers on the internet I tell them to either flip a coin or talk to someone you trust in real life.

Though, when things are as black-and-white as this, I feel compelled to put the snide mockery aside and just tell you straight up. Right thing: tell her. Wrong thing: let her get hurt. There's no reason that your friend's seeking of fun should come before her feelings. None. If confidentiality is what you're worried about, have the courage to stand up to your friend and tell him he was being an ass.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 06:09:54
January 26 2010 05:48 GMT
#7
Agreed with lucktar, you need to teach Tom how to respect women and not merely treat them as objects. I recommend going to a bookstore and picking out a Julia Kristeva book so you can give to Tom as a gift the next time you guys celebrate an anniversary. A friend who doesn't respect women is not a friend at all.
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
January 26 2010 05:48 GMT
#8
Tell 'Tom' that 'Cathy' is your friend, and you won't stand for that bullshit. If he doesn't respect her enough to not hurt her, maybe he'll respect you. Or maybe not.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
January 26 2010 05:51 GMT
#9
fast forwards to after tom sleeps with cathy a few times, dumps her, and she comes crying to you

"i knew this was going to happen along but i didn't say anything, cause bros before hoes and all"
But why?
Crisis_
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 05:56:13
January 26 2010 05:54 GMT
#10
On January 26 2010 14:27 WheelOfTime wrote:
Long story short:

Facts:

Friend A - Female, 19, female friend for 2 years, in a different program of study at the same university as me, decent looking, never had a real relationship in her life. Let's call her Cathy.

Friend B - Male, 20, male friend for 13 years, in the same program of study at the same university as me, going to live with me next term on campus. Let's call him Tom.

Cathy got to know Tom through me at a party last year, and this year it's become pretty clear she really likes Tom.

Tom has a GF of 1 year, and we talk about everything, he told me that he likes Cathy only for her looks, went out with her on a few dates and got to kiss her, going to keep it up and try to get her to sleep with him.

I feel Cathy is going to get hurt quite profusely down this road. So I'm inclined to say something to her as she's a really innocent and nice person.

I also feel obligated to uphold the implied confidentially between Tom and I as he put his trust in me by telling me what he intended to do in the first place.

Your thoughts on this matter?


Preserving the original post.

You shouldn't sit there and let all that happen. It may affect her for the rest of her life for the worse, but for Tom, it would just be a good fling that he'd forget about. Just tell her.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
January 26 2010 05:56 GMT
#11
On January 26 2010 14:48 Lucktar wrote:
Tell 'Tom' that 'Cathy' is your friend, and you won't stand for that bullshit. If he doesn't respect her enough to not hurt her, maybe he'll respect you. Or maybe not.

This. Whatever you do, do not puss out and say nothing, and do not puss out and go behind Tom's back. Make Tom tell Cathy.
My strategy is to fork people.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
January 26 2010 05:57 GMT
#12
I only approve of telling her if it's to start off an attempt for you to bang her instead.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 06:01:56
January 26 2010 06:01 GMT
#13
talk to your "Tom" and tell him he is being a fucking asshole, and that she is your friend.
then go into detail about the 112312312 ways his girlfriend could find out about this.

if he still wants to play with her, whatever it's her fault for being weak and gullible, and you did your best.

edit: whatever you do don't tell her anything
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 06:23:53
January 26 2010 06:23 GMT
#14
Tom's a dick give... him the ultimatum.
yes.
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
January 26 2010 06:25 GMT
#15
NO DON"T TELL HER

great artwork is borne from the kind of smoldering, destroyed mess of a heart that he will leave her with. She could be the greatest artist of our generation, if only you allow him to make her never be able to trust again

Make sure you watch her ears though
Kk.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 26 2010 06:41 GMT
#16
On January 26 2010 15:01 Etherone wrote:
talk to your "Tom" and tell him he is being a fucking asshole, and that she is your friend.
then go into detail about the 112312312 ways his girlfriend could find out about this.

if he still wants to play with her, whatever it's her fault for being weak and gullible, and you did your best.

edit: whatever you do don't tell her anything

I agree with this. Tom is being a douche canoe.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
January 26 2010 06:53 GMT
#17
keep your trap shut holmes. my 2 centz
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 26 2010 06:53 GMT
#18
You can tell her, but just remember thats it could ruin your friendship with Tom. My friend was in the exact same dilemma. He considered the guy to be his bestfriend but he did it anyway. What happened was that the guy completely cut my friend out of his life. He'd ignore him at school. He never even acknowledged his prescence when they were in the same room together. So if you're gonna do this, be prepared to lose your friend.
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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
January 26 2010 06:56 GMT
#19
Do not tell the girl. Talk to 'Tom', and tell him what you think. You said the guy had a GF right? WTF is he doing, talk some sense into him...
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
January 26 2010 06:58 GMT
#20
I don't know why your not sticking up for your friend. You may end up losing both.
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
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