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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-31 14:41:09
December 31 2008 14:39 GMT
#1001
On December 31 2008 23:23 monstar123 wrote:
i saw the VOD too.IMO Kal was much better in that game.No mistakes, perfect micro + macro.He won battle without storms cause HTs were sniped.Cant imagne what would happen if that templar could stay alive !


I think this goes to show how risky this build is and how good Jaedong is. One good storm/one mismicro and all those mutas would've been for naught. In every game JD uses this build though, he seems to at least trade in all his mutas for most if not all the HTs. But even if one or two HTs DO survive, JD's gotta have some perfect storm dodging to make something out of it all.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
December 31 2008 14:48 GMT
#1002
upload vods please need to see this today :D
One ring, to rule them all!
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-31 14:50:09
December 31 2008 14:49 GMT
#1003
ACE match was depressing dumb play by hwasin, kal vs jd was entertaining to watch imo and I think kal had like 1 or 2 storms off wich killed/damaged alot of hydra that made a big difference imo.

Jon747 has the vods
Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
December 31 2008 14:55 GMT
#1004
Yeeee, Lee Jaedong for power. Sa traiasca zergu!
I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
khersai
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland366 Posts
December 31 2008 15:09 GMT
#1005
hwasin played like shit, awful vessel control and loss of his 3rd to a few lurkers having 2 bunkers around was just /facepalm
will the Legendary Protoss please stand up, please stand up
Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
December 31 2008 15:19 GMT
#1006
On December 31 2008 22:36 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2008 21:48 monstar123 wrote:
(P)Kal has (Z)July to practice.
(Z)Jaedong has (P)BackHo to practice .
Here is for you result


Bisu has Hyuk and s2 to practice.

Conclusion?

Hyuk and s2 > Jaedong in practice.



But when (P)Bisu started he had (Z)July to practice, lol

Conclusion?

(Z)July creates the best toss v. zerg playas.
Bow before the Dongjwa.
ssystem
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom337 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-31 15:31:17
December 31 2008 15:30 GMT
#1007
On January 01 2009 00:19 Deletrious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2008 22:36 baubo wrote:
On December 31 2008 21:48 monstar123 wrote:
Kal has July to practice.
Jaedong has BackHo to practice .
Here is for you result


Bisu has Hyuk and s2 to practice.

Conclusion?

Hyuk and s2 > Jaedong in practice.



But when Bisu started he had July to practice, lol

Conclusion?

July creates the best toss v. zerg playas.

Yeah Bisu even followed July to SKT JUST so he could practice with him
sh02hp0869
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden460 Posts
December 31 2008 15:39 GMT
#1008
Wow Stx fan must be the worst loser in the team liquid. So meny "should have, could have, probleby" etc.
Yes Hwasin did some misstake so did JD. But all together it was a good game. Hawsin miss the scans yes he did. JD shouldent have build that guardians but he did. He "PROBLEBY" would have won that game in that moment. Its just pointless resoning of what could have happen. As the game was played JD was the better. Hwasin played better than he has done in a while.
Hello mother hello father
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 31 2008 15:58 GMT
#1009
Man that last game blew my mind, most entertaining play by a zerg ever.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
December 31 2008 16:25 GMT
#1010
On December 31 2008 23:55 Phradamon wrote:
Yeeee, Lee Jaedong for power. Sa traiasca zergu!

hahaha
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
December 31 2008 17:37 GMT
#1011
On December 31 2008 16:39 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Silly Jaedong, you're only encouraging Terrans to go mech.

Mech depends on map. Even the new Fantasy mech build didnt last long. I don't know how good of a T player you are but MnM is more powerful imo

On December 31 2008 16:43 abakben wrote:
I can say that Hwasin sucked with Science vessel usage entire game.


I can say that Jaedong was amazing with picking off Hwasin's SVs entire game



On December 31 2008 16:58 abakben wrote:
I think it is the second time Hwasin both lost his first match and ace match. I do not think STX coach will send him again to ace match if he looses the first match.


Dude, you're a douche for undermining Hwasin's capabilities. He has been STX's ace for a while for a reason. Actually, your reasoning doesn't even matter, you're just bitterly crying because JD redeemed himself after he lost to Kal. You even said few pages back that you love seeing JD lose. Therefore, your opinion and reasoning is completely blinded by your anti Jaedong-ism. Hwasin deserves much more respect and acknowledgement, even from a scrub like you
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 31 2008 17:43 GMT
#1012
He shoulda scanned...
And he shoulda entered the other bunker too...
Jaedong is hard to kill -_-;;
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
December 31 2008 17:50 GMT
#1013
does anyone know for sure if hwasin even had enough mana for scan? @ his third, he didn't have an addon btw
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 31 2008 18:13 GMT
#1014
This truly must be the next generation of ZvT.

SC will never cease to amaze me - 10 years old and with a sequel right around the corner, it's still evolving day by day at its highest level.
✌
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 31 2008 18:36 GMT
#1015
On January 01 2009 02:50 Proposal wrote:
does anyone know for sure if hwasin even had enough mana for scan? @ his third, he didn't have an addon btw


possibility but i highly doubt it.... he just forgot to scan. good game by hwasin still not matter but the people are saying. jd just too imba
Forever Young
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
December 31 2008 18:41 GMT
#1016
On January 01 2009 02:50 Proposal wrote:
does anyone know for sure if hwasin even had enough mana for scan? @ his third, he didn't have an addon btw


I really dont think he did. He had only 2 addons and was constantly scanning the middle to find the position of JD's army and the main to see JD's tech, its not a stretch of the imagination to assume he was out at that particular moment.

Writerman what
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 31 2008 18:42 GMT
#1017
On January 01 2009 03:36 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2009 02:50 Proposal wrote:
does anyone know for sure if hwasin even had enough mana for scan? @ his third, he didn't have an addon btw


possibility but i highly doubt it.... he just forgot to scan. good game by hwasin still not matter but the people are saying. jd just too imba

He probably had mana in his main CC, but he lifted his nat CC to take another base.
Jaedong
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 31 2008 19:21 GMT
#1018
Jaedong: i wuz just trying to play with queens but i accidentally your whole army
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
December 31 2008 19:48 GMT
#1019
I'm not sure if some of you have never played Zerg, but it is NOT easy scourging vessels, even if they are alone. It's not as easy as just "catching vessels off-guard" -- you need to produce them at the right time and have them hotkeyed correctly so that WHEN the opportunity presents itself you can seal the deal.

If you watch the game, you'll see that Jaedong catches vessels that were RELATIVELY well-protected. In most cases, the vessels were JUST ahead of the rest of his army. If you think about it, because Vessels are faster than marines and medics, it's UNAVOIDABLE that vessels and marines have a tag-relationship, with vessels inching forward, waits for marines to catch up, and so on and so on. The window of time in which the Vessel is slightly separated from his army is VERY small, and it requires a lot of thinking ahead, producing the right number of scourges (scourges don't come out instantly ).

Some moments seemed miraculously lucky though, but what is luck? Luck = opportunity meets preparation. I try to snipe vessels like that all the time and I fail. Badly.

Also, Hwasin didn't have enough forces to hit 5 o'clock early on, although later, there was a time when he had marine group going down there, I'm not sure why he didn't attack. He might have seen the Nydus.

God, Jaedong has so much finesse.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
December 31 2008 20:25 GMT
#1020
It was a good game that was somewhat close (closer than JD vs fantasy IMO), but Hwasin just got out-played. JD was everywhere and the last 5 minute Hwasin was holding on for dear life to have a 2 control group army.
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