[PL] Lecaf vs STX - Page 49

On December 31 2008 16:51 nosliw wrote:


If you are talking about the one JD killed 4 Sci Vessels in 5 seconds.Those scourges were not cloned. Predicting where the Sci Vessels would be, JD moved his scourges there. Scourges moved with the Sci Vessels, and JD A-clicked.

On December 31 2008 16:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
if hwasin had saved his 3rd jaedong would've lost

JD was running out of time by that point going 3:3 base

but it didn't look like hwasin had full bunks at his 3rd and didn't scan

On December 31 2008 16:55 caelym wrote:

maybe i saw it wrong but when u A-click scourges, they dont automatically separate into pairs of twos and kill all the vessels in a group almost simultaneously

On December 31 2008 16:53 AttackZerg wrote:
Technically hwasin was ahead for awhile that game. He pushed great/played great for the first 11 minutes or so. It was after he lost that 3 tank mnm/sci to muta/lurker/ling/ensare that he began to play weird. Jaedong never had a real army to push with (under 80 supply almost all game) yet hwasin continued to push super hard, and not defensively ira-tank-mine his half of the map and then do a massive push with simultanious drops.

I think queens were great, I think jaedongmade a good comeback, but hwasin was ahead economicly, army size AND type, upgrades, and positioning. He just kept overextending himself for no reason.

It was like hwasin was scared that 4 lurkers + 1 queen + 20 lings + 1 defiler were going to run him over ..... he played TERRIBLE in the middle of the game.

Go jaedong!

On December 31 2008 16:57 Cambium wrote:


Yep, completely agree.

Also, hwasin's choice of leaving JD's third base alone was very questionable...

On December 31 2008 16:57 Cambium wrote:


Yep, completely agree.

Also, hwasin's choice of leaving JD's third base alone was very questionable...

On December 31 2008 16:52 hacpee wrote:
The game wasn't even at all. Hwasin carelessly lost too many science vessels, and his attempts at harrassing the 3rd were pathetic. Heck, he built so many tanks, yet he couldn't spare one to siege the 3rd's cliff. No drops in the main, no harrasses on the natural, he only took out a few stray hatches that jaedong didn't care for.

On December 31 2008 16:58 abakben wrote:
I think it is the second time Hwasin both lost his first match and ace match. I do not think STX coach will send him again to ace match if he looses the first match.

On December 31 2008 16:57 Cambium wrote:


Yep, completely agree.

Also, hwasin's choice of leaving JD's third base alone was very questionable...

On December 31 2008 16:47 skronch wrote:
self ownage

On December 31 2008 16:47 d(O.o)a wrote:


back at you

On December 31 2008 16:47 caelym wrote:

easy, your opponent is a s-class zerg with 12 scourges cloned perfectly against vessels a bit too far away from the main m&m group

On December 31 2008 17:00 Cambium wrote:





Same style as the commandments... if you bothered reading it...

- DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN ALL CAPS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SCREAMING LIKE A RAVING LUNATIC AND WE WILL BE FORCED TO TREAT YOU LIKE ONE AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

On December 31 2008 17:00 QibingZero wrote:


Okay, I'm going to make one last attempt at this.

First of all, if you think Hwasin could lose simply due to the amount of vessels Jaedong sniped, go watch Jaedong's most recent game vs Sea and count how many vessels Sea loses.

Now, Hwasin was already behind and had little chance at taking out Jaedong's third once that nydus came up. What Hwasin did do, however, was stop Jaedong's attempts at a fourth for as long as possible, causing the game to continue to be groups of smaller fights rather than huge ones wherein his units would be too clumped up to avoid ensnare + swarm absolutely owning him.

It was Hwasin's forcing the game into those small skirmishes, plus his attempt to take advantage of the fact that a lot of the expansions on the map would be hard to control for Jaedong. Where that plan fell apart was in his failure to place a turret at or to scan his third base when the bunker was under attack. That, combined with the fact he failed to eventually stop Jaedong's expanding to a fourth base, and the mass vessel snipe, put him too far behind to come back.

There you go. Can we put it to rest now and admit it was an amazing game?

On December 31 2008 16:56 Avidkeystamper wrote:

It was too close to call at that point. It would've been 1 base, 1.5 gas vs 3base zerg since zergs mine more slowly with less drones. The real tipping factor is that JD kept beating Hwasin's army to prevent a giganto ball-o-death. And scourges.

On December 31 2008 17:03 d(O.o)a wrote:


Thing is though that was written for humor however yours simply made you look like an ass.

On December 31 2008 17:07 hacpee wrote:


Are you serious? He started failing once his first vessel/tank push went for the natural instead of the 3rd. Hwasin constantly sent useless groups of mm/firebats to the 3rd to die for no reason. The only thing he did at all was prevent 2 expos from forming. Thats it. Plus, hwasin's own 3rd was horribly late. He was at an eco disadvantage the whole game,and by the time hwasin actually took his 3rd, he let jaedong mass enough troops to effortlessly take it. Jaedong almost botched it though when he didn't bring a defiler with him.