EPT[GOM] Ro16, Day 2 - Page 45
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ForVengeance
United States111 Posts
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Tadzio
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On December 14 2008 20:09 darktreb wrote: Flash and Mind to save the tournament Everybody who's not a diehard Protoss fan (or diehard fan of a specific P remaining in the tournament) should really really be rooting for the two remaining Terrans to go as far as possible, especially seeing as how they have the two best TvPs in the game. Skyhigh and pepe don't count? | ||
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dongfeng
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:10 ForVengeance wrote: I refuse to believe that there is nothing Zergs can do to beat top protoss. I refuse. Queens and ensnare? | ||
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KreaGata
United States1702 Posts
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Yaqoob
Canada3394 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:07 freelander wrote: why are you flaming.. can't you see that last msl was protoss fest, this gsl is a protoss fest? can't you see that RO16 has 12 protoss players and 4 terrans? zerg is majorly fucked because zvt always has been a disadvantageous matchup and now zvp is getting into the same category.r 'its true though, P>Z and P>T (always has been)" | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On December 14 2008 19:58 Aurious wrote: Not true instead of doing what HoeJJa did. Adding a few sunkens around the expos and playing like it was a true sair reaver woulda been the best thing for him to do while letting his lead grow slowly Well that kills economy a lot, this gives Toss choice to bust either natural or 3rd expansion (gas one). Or Toss could just push natural and send few zealots to deal few sunkens at your 3rd and you are now way behind. | ||
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abakben
United States308 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:08 Shikyo wrote: Does Zerg have a magical unit like Corsair, or something like the Forge Expand to switch the balance? What does the past matter, it's now what matters, and the future. Stop whining after every protoss win you idiot. It is becoming really annoying. | ||
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traced
1739 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:12 KreaGata wrote: God, this thread got trashy with lots of bleeding hearts. Even as a diehard Z fan, I have to respect Bisu's amazing play. I wouldn't mind seeing either of these in the finals: Best/Stork, Bisu/Stork, Flash/Stork. bisu mind rematch would be pretty sick too | ||
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Metallingus
Philippines468 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:10 ForVengeance wrote: I refuse to believe that there is nothing Zergs can do to beat top protoss. I refuse. Not unless they stick to the same strategies they won't. I dunno if it was Plexa or FS who said it before, but Bisu's PvZ is so strong because he somehow forces his opponents to mass hydras. After that it's storms and scarabs and guts on the floor. No matter who it is, as long as they keep getting lulled into doing the same shit on a different day, they will lose. Edit: YES to a Bisu v Mind rematch, that'd be sick. | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:08 raga4ka wrote: With Requem and medusa Bisu maybe could win it . Flash will roll over him if they put 2 of the 3 - Chupung , Destination or Harmony in it . That being said I expect Flash to own Bisu again . I cant wait for Bisu to ruin your expectations. This will not be the OSL semi from couple of seasons ago when Bisu was slumping and no matter how good flash's TvP in general might be he... + Show Spoiler + he lost on the most imba TvP map today against stork | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:13 abakben wrote: Stop whining after every protoss win you idiot. It is becoming really annoying. Protoss being imbalanced is annoying as well, don't worry. | ||
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abakben
United States308 Posts
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Puosu
7031 Posts
"One of the main rules applied in StarCraft matches used to be “If you’re the better player, play safe. If you’re not, do something unexpected.” This “rule” was formed on the basic principle that the advantage of being a better player expands over time. You used that one build to counter it all, with some small adjustments for specific scenarios. In iloveoov’s prime, he always fast expanded, no matter his opponent’s build. He just adapted the Engineering Bay timing a bit and he had a “worry-less build order” until the midgame." -Mind Games by Rage That's my only source of information, don't know anything more specific. | ||
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Metallingus
Philippines468 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:15 Puosu wrote: "One of the main rules applied in StarCraft matches used to be “If you’re the better player, play safe. If you’re not, do something unexpected.” This “rule” was formed on the basic principle that the advantage of being a better player expands over time. You used that one build to counter it all, with some small adjustments for specific scenarios. In iloveoov’s prime, he always fast expanded, no matter his opponent’s build. He just adapted the Engineering Bay timing a bit and he had a “worry-less build order” until the midgame." -Mind Games by Rage That's my only source of information, don't know anything more specific. Simply put, oov always adjusted his EBay timing so that his expansions would be relatively safe, without him having to sacrifice troop count and rely on static defense. A lot of it had to do with the information he'd gather through scouting. Using TvZ as an example, he'd always adjust his timing so that he'd have a number of turrets at his expansion without hurting his econ. In turn his expansion/s wouldn't get raped by mutas, and so on. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:15 Shikyo wrote: Protoss being imbalanced is annoying as well, don't worry. I remember when I started watching SC, there were interviews with some top players who thought that Blizzard should release one last patch because Terran was obviously just a little stronger than the other two races and it wasn't quite balanced. There have been no balance patches since then. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:37 GGQ wrote: I remember when I started watching SC, there were interviews with some top players who thought that Blizzard should release one last patch because Terran was obviously just a little stronger than the other two races and it wasn't quite balanced. There have been no balance patches since then. The races don't change, but the game develops. Maybe they could ask those questions from the gamers right now =P | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
how does queen help at all? | ||
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abakben
United States308 Posts
On December 14 2008 20:37 GGQ wrote: I remember when I started watching SC, there were interviews with some top players who thought that Blizzard should release one last patch because Terran was obviously just a little stronger than the other two races and it wasn't quite balanced. There have been no balance patches since then. Just ignore this guy. He always whines in every thread about P>T or P>Z. Although it is very annoying, I do not think he is capable of understanding the mechanics of SC in near future  . | ||
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KreaGata
United States1702 Posts
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