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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 14 2008 10:59 GMT
#841
On December 14 2008 19:57 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 19:55 Yaqoob wrote:
Bisu versus Flash is going to be pretty amazing. This will be very hard for Bisu.


Bisu dismantled FBH, hwasin, and iris in his last msl run.


but flash has more tvp skill than those guys together have
And all is illuminated.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7081 Posts
December 14 2008 10:59 GMT
#842
On December 14 2008 19:57 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 19:55 ColdLava wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:53 Shikyo wrote:
Protoss is so imbalanced. They should patch this game.

Funny because protosses were saying PvZ seemed impossible 3 years ago

Yeah, Z>P, T>Z, P>T. Now it's P>Z, P>T, T>Z, making it imbalanced.

Its the maps and natural evolution of the game, different races realize new things all the time and then they dominate for a while, until someone comes up with something new and exciting.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3408 Posts
December 14 2008 10:59 GMT
#843
Bisu vs Flash should be a good series. I wish it was a Best of 5 but I am hoping Bisu wins 2-1. I think Best will win 2-0 against skyhigh. If Flash is having a good day he can take out almost anyone on a given day.
김택용 Fighting!
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-14 11:00:13
December 14 2008 10:59 GMT
#844
On December 14 2008 19:57 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 19:55 Yaqoob wrote:
Bisu versus Flash is going to be pretty amazing. This will be very hard for Bisu.


Bisu dismantled FBH, hwasin, and iris in his last msl run.


Flash's TvP is miles away from FBH and Hwasin.

Either way, I'm still rooting for Bisu. KTY fighting!
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 14 2008 10:59 GMT
#845
On December 14 2008 19:57 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 19:55 Yaqoob wrote:
Bisu versus Flash is going to be pretty amazing. This will be very hard for Bisu.


Bisu dismantled FBH, hwasin, and iris in his last msl run.


FBH, Hwasin and Iris are nowhere near Flash's TvP though.

I think it will be super close but Flash should manage to win it. I remember the earlier GOM matches where Flash won vs Bisu and that was on Katrina, one of the hardest TvP maps ever.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
December 14 2008 10:59 GMT
#846
Not that I want to take anything away from Bisus absolutely amazing PvZ skills. But seriously, after forcing bisu to build 4 cannons early, taking out like 4 corsairs 2 shuttles and 1 reaver without taking to many losses and having more or less 3 1/2 bases running... how hard is it to research lurkeraspect and to put 1 sunken at your expo.
It is noth about just this game, the skill difference between these two guys was fairly obvious. But it is so many zergs lately which fall to timing attacks, because their 24 hydras cannot take on 15speedlots +archon or whatever. 15 Hydras and 4 lurks and 1 sunken would do a much better job and keep you in the game until your expansions kicks in.

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 14 2008 10:59 GMT
#847
But it really wasn't true sair/reaver. Bisu just likes this style of 4 zlot drops/2goon 1zlot drop, which have ended up working really well for him.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
December 14 2008 11:00 GMT
#848
If Bisu wins another Starleague, I will fly over to Korea and kill him.

Seriously fuck Bisu.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 14 2008 11:00 GMT
#849
On December 14 2008 19:58 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 19:57 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:55 Yaqoob wrote:
Bisu versus Flash is going to be pretty amazing. This will be very hard for Bisu.


Bisu dismantled FBH, hwasin, and iris in his last msl run.

Not to argue with your point, but Bisu did not face Iris in the last MSL.


sorry, you're right, i just looked it up. Bisu beat iris 2-1 in the last OSL
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 14 2008 11:00 GMT
#850
On December 14 2008 19:59 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 19:57 Shikyo wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:55 ColdLava wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:53 Shikyo wrote:
Protoss is so imbalanced. They should patch this game.

Funny because protosses were saying PvZ seemed impossible 3 years ago

Yeah, Z>P, T>Z, P>T. Now it's P>Z, P>T, T>Z, making it imbalanced.

Its the maps and natural evolution of the game, different races realize new things all the time and then they dominate for a while, until someone comes up with something new and exciting.

It will take a while until Zerg learns to utilize Queens.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Raikkonen
Profile Joined December 2008
Finland15 Posts
December 14 2008 11:00 GMT
#851
snooze fest
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7081 Posts
December 14 2008 11:00 GMT
#852
On December 14 2008 20:00 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 19:59 Puosu wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:57 Shikyo wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:55 ColdLava wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:53 Shikyo wrote:
Protoss is so imbalanced. They should patch this game.

Funny because protosses were saying PvZ seemed impossible 3 years ago

Yeah, Z>P, T>Z, P>T. Now it's P>Z, P>T, T>Z, making it imbalanced.

Its the maps and natural evolution of the game, different races realize new things all the time and then they dominate for a while, until someone comes up with something new and exciting.

It will take a while until Zerg learns to utilize Queens.

It took a while until Zergs started utilizing defilers like they do today.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3408 Posts
December 14 2008 11:01 GMT
#853
On December 14 2008 20:00 TheTyranid wrote:
If Bisu wins another Starleague, I will fly over to Korea and kill him.

Seriously fuck Bisu.

If Bisu wins another Starleague, then that would be one of the best thing to happen to Progaming for the Protoss.
김택용 Fighting!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 14 2008 11:01 GMT
#854
On December 14 2008 20:00 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 20:00 Shikyo wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:59 Puosu wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:57 Shikyo wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:55 ColdLava wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:53 Shikyo wrote:
Protoss is so imbalanced. They should patch this game.

Funny because protosses were saying PvZ seemed impossible 3 years ago

Yeah, Z>P, T>Z, P>T. Now it's P>Z, P>T, T>Z, making it imbalanced.

Its the maps and natural evolution of the game, different races realize new things all the time and then they dominate for a while, until someone comes up with something new and exciting.

It will take a while until Zerg learns to utilize Queens.

It took a while until Zergs started utilizing defilers like they do today.

Luckily they actually had useful abilities with infinite mana =P
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
December 14 2008 11:01 GMT
#855
its true though, P>Z and P>T (always has been)
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 14 2008 11:02 GMT
#856
On December 14 2008 20:01 Proposal wrote:
its true though, P>Z and P>T (always has been)

how did this thread get so trash?
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 14 2008 11:02 GMT
#857
On December 14 2008 19:59 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 19:57 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:55 Yaqoob wrote:
Bisu versus Flash is going to be pretty amazing. This will be very hard for Bisu.


Bisu dismantled FBH, hwasin, and iris in his last msl run.


FBH, Hwasin and Iris are nowhere near Flash's TvP though.

I think it will be super close but Flash should manage to win it. I remember the earlier GOM matches where Flash won vs Bisu and that was on Katrina, one of the hardest TvP maps ever.

It is true that Bisu has a disadvantage in his record vs Flash which is 3-8, but considering that Flash is not playing overly well right now and Bisu is completely on fire he can win.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 14 2008 11:02 GMT
#858
but it is so easy to fuck up zerg,, especially on medusa. Basically it is enough to deny mining at one of the zerg bases to get a macro advantage. And after that you can make even more advantage from this.
And all is illuminated.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7081 Posts
December 14 2008 11:03 GMT
#859
On December 14 2008 20:01 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 20:00 Puosu wrote:
On December 14 2008 20:00 Shikyo wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:59 Puosu wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:57 Shikyo wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:55 ColdLava wrote:
On December 14 2008 19:53 Shikyo wrote:
Protoss is so imbalanced. They should patch this game.

Funny because protosses were saying PvZ seemed impossible 3 years ago

Yeah, Z>P, T>Z, P>T. Now it's P>Z, P>T, T>Z, making it imbalanced.

Its the maps and natural evolution of the game, different races realize new things all the time and then they dominate for a while, until someone comes up with something new and exciting.

It will take a while until Zerg learns to utilize Queens.

It took a while until Zergs started utilizing defilers like they do today.

Luckily they actually had useful abilities with infinite mana =P

yeah ok ok but still I believe Zergs will come up with something, maybe something very simple but revolutionary similar to Oov's engineering bay timing.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 14 2008 11:03 GMT
#860
I think Flash is the natural favourite, but I still think Bisu will win it 2-1. Might depend on their schedules around that time.
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