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BLinD-RawR
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(Tasteless and Artosis)Korean Stream (KCM, trOt and Zeus)German Stream (NarutO and TakeTV)Polish Stream (EmSc TV) | ||
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nojok
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razorsuKe
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On August 10 2018 19:15 nojok wrote: Wasn't it possible to wall the ramp to gain some time to get a canon up? it absolutely was, stork had almost no reaction after seeing the blur of dts when he was in h2's base | ||
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ionONE
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Horang2 gave up mapcontrol and stork saw the smaller army. | ||
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xccam
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On August 10 2018 19:23 razorsuKe wrote: now horang2 is in stork's head, making him go obs first while he goes 3 gate -> expand 3gate on a ramped map is pretty bad though. | ||
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nojok
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On August 10 2018 19:28 nojok wrote: Why would you even skip tech in PvP? Toss' tech either destroys prob or gateway units, you have to tech. . . . | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 10 2018 19:59 razorsuKe wrote: horang2 has always been known for his base optimization right? cause his base is looking sexy af right now, that architecture looks streamlined^max he is, always perfect gateway placement. | ||
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nojok
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Motivate
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edit: lol mind is so bad, loses to a gas steal | ||
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De4ngus
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razorsuKe
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Motivate
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On August 10 2018 20:29 nojok wrote: Omg, I don't remember pro terrans struggling so hard to kill the initial zealots. It happens so often those days... cos terrans are awful and don't practice any match ups besides tvz recommending that game because i genuinely enjoyed it | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
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thy will be done dohmen. | ||
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razorsuKe
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razorsuKe
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On August 10 2018 20:46 BLinD-RawR wrote: best can afford some bad decisions, but throwing that many zealots is a bit too much yeah, he's consistently over 1k minerals too but I not sure if these trades are good terran at 2/1 when protoss was 1/0/0 during all those attacks | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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STOP THROWING ZEALOTS | ||
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Motivate
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you're just going to get supply blocked or lose all your production | ||
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prosatan
Romania8893 Posts
 Please out in spoiler the result between Stork and Horang2 ! Thank youuu | ||
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razorsuKe
Canada2036 Posts
looked like everything played out the way he wanted it to and we didn't see it coming :o | ||
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nojok
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De4ngus
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Motivate
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need to watch flash or fantasy... just any player that has some ability to tvp | ||
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nojok
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razorsuKe
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what is going on?!?!?! this gameeeeee | ||
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PVJ
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The 7-kill probe and this stasis on the SCV's is already something to remember! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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was it entertaining? yes. | ||
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razorsuKe
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incredible decision to reaver at that moment to take advantage of an opening | ||
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phosphorylation
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HOwever, Mind probably would have won if he didn't move out and just defended his 6 oclcok | ||
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repomaniak
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KSL stork with frog DNA KSL kr audience no hiding / starcraft CD cheer KSL cheer KSL cheer snake art KSL popsicle + train track + fighting bear KSL Best interview | ||
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edit: prediction 3:1 best over stork. | ||
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prosatan
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On August 10 2018 21:33 repomaniak wrote: KSL Horang2 interview https://clips.twitch.tv/FaintSecretiveHamsterTheThing KSL stork with frog DNA https://clips.twitch.tv/FancyAstuteChickpeaGivePLZ KSL kr audience no hiding / starcraft CD cheer https://clips.twitch.tv/ExcitedWanderingFloofFrankerZ KSL cheer https://clips.twitch.tv/TemperedFancyMangetoutSMOrc KSL cheer snake art https://clips.twitch.tv/CleverResilientMarjoramBloodTrail KSL popsicle + train track + fighting bear https://clips.twitch.tv/WiseUgliestBulgogiBloodTrail KSL Best interview https://clips.twitch.tv/RefinedGrossSamosaPlanking repomaniak you have great comments here on tl man !!  | ||
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BisuDagger
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On August 11 2018 03:58 [Fin]Vittu wrote: those zealot-congo lines confuse the fuck outta me I thought they were great lol. | ||
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Jealous
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 11 2018 11:38 Jealous wrote: Where can I find Korean VODs for these events? Whenever I try to Google or look it up on Twitch, I always get English VODs. Not just for this tournament, but for future ones as well - is there a resource that I can consistently look into to get Korean VODs for modern BW tournaments? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClWPSY-fuGOIldrlUTqoEag/videos also in general http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20 | ||
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Jealous
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On August 11 2018 12:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClWPSY-fuGOIldrlUTqoEag/videos also in general http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20 Thanks, I never see the Small VOD thread in the recent posts but I imagine that this is because it is stickied? Either way, much appreciated. Nothing against Tasteless/Artosis personally, and to be honest I watched their cast of Mind vs. Best just now and it was much better than what I remember from autumn of last year, but there were still too many errors for me to find it palatable. I enjoy trying to improve my Korean while listening to hype AF commentators more than I enjoy spending ~10 seconds after some comments thinking "why would he say that? oh, he was just wrong." | ||
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De4ngus
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On August 11 2018 01:49 Dazed. wrote: Its strange, its not to say the protoss arent playing great, they are, but they are just playing great. Terrans are playing awful and collapsing. I honestly dont see this as a meta shift or anything, but all the terran players just starting to suck: mind, sea, last. edit: prediction 3:1 best over stork. It actually seems like they're only practicing TvZ | ||
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Alpha-NP-
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On August 11 2018 12:29 Jealous wrote: Thanks, I never see the Small VOD thread in the recent posts but I imagine that this is because it is stickied? Either way, much appreciated. Nothing against Tasteless/Artosis personally, and to be honest I watched their cast of Mind vs. Best just now and it was much better than what I remember from autumn of last year, but there were still too many errors for me to find it palatable. I enjoy trying to improve my Korean while listening to hype AF commentators more than I enjoy spending ~10 seconds after some comments thinking "why would he say that? oh, he was just wrong." Jealos they might have the occasional error but I guarantee at least Artosis knows more about the game than either of us. | ||
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Jealous
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On August 12 2018 12:15 Alpha-NP- wrote: Jealos they might have the occasional error but I guarantee at least Artosis knows more about the game than either of us. I don't doubt that Artosis knows more about the game than I do, but I do think that the amount of obvious errors made by the two of them is below the standard I would expect from someone paid to do this job. Knowing more doesn't make you exempt from judgement based on obvious errors. For example, if a math professor made a calculation error when adding two numbers, a 10-year-old can still point out the fact that he or she was wrong. If that sort of error repeats itself consistently, you have to consider the fact that maybe the professor is just not that good at arithmetic even though they hve a far more expansive knowledge of math than the 10-year-old. One doesn't counteract the other. Additionally, I would say that "knowledge" in high level BW changes much more frequently than it does in high level mathematics. In other words, talking about certain strategies as being common or good options may be wrong NOW even though it was right 10 years ago, for example. So, simply because they have more knowledge doesn't mean that it is the most relevant knowledge. Again, I'd like to reiterate that they did a much better job in this cast than I had seen in the past, which was pleasant to see. Others I've shared this VOD with have said the same thing, including Korean players. I'm not saying that it was terrible or that Artosis doesn't know anything. I'm saying that the amount of errors was still too high for my tastes. | ||
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Artosis
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On August 11 2018 12:29 Jealous wrote: Thanks, I never see the Small VOD thread in the recent posts but I imagine that this is because it is stickied? Either way, much appreciated. Nothing against Tasteless/Artosis personally, and to be honest I watched their cast of Mind vs. Best just now and it was much better than what I remember from autumn of last year, but there were still too many errors for me to find it palatable. I enjoy trying to improve my Korean while listening to hype AF commentators more than I enjoy spending ~10 seconds after some comments thinking "why would he say that? oh, he was just wrong." Hi there, Could you please point out some of my too many errors? Always looking to improve. Thanks, Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski | ||
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Timebon3s
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Keep up the good work!! You point out a lot of stuff I fail to see at least and your knowledge of the game and its history is very impressive in my eyes. Greetings from Norway  | ||
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Alpha-NP-
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Oh here is the schedule: https://ksl.starcraft.com/en-us/schedule/141/4500/5571 | ||
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Navane
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Navane
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On August 13 2018 11:48 Alpha-NP- wrote: Cant find anywhere when next matches are played. And Liquipedia is not updated. Oh here is the schedule: https://ksl.starcraft.com/en-us/schedule/141/4500/5571 Maybe it wasn't when you were looking, but they are here under "Upcoming matches":  Main Page | ||
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Rucho
United States124 Posts
I think some people don't realize how hard it is to be hyping a game, producing an exciting and interesting live cast. It isn't a cast from a replay in your bedroom, it isn't a day9 daily. Sure, you guys may miss that the observer showed a certain tech building is being built, or like in game 2 where you commented that mind should have built a second wraith, when he indeed already had one. However, that shouldn't ruin the game for anyone, it's just what happens when you're trying to cast a game live, while at the same time building a narrative and conversing with tasteless. Jealous, sure they make "mistakes" and it is their job, but these mistakes aren't like a mistake in an email to your boss, that you had time to yourself to prepare. A mistake for tastosis would be something like saying something offensive on air, or being so boring that viewership drops. Not miscalling a build order, or an engagement. Tastosis are the best in the business, and it shows. Anyone who thinks that they can do better is free to do so. I'm sure tastosis is ready to step aside when the time comes for some new young buck to scrape their crusty old asses out of their chairs and end their legacy, but until then, I'll be appreciating all the hard work and love they put into bringing StarCraft to us for our enjoyment. | ||
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PVJ
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On August 11 2018 01:49 Dazed. wrote: Its strange, its not to say the protoss arent playing great, they are, but they are just playing great. Terrans are playing awful and collapsing. I honestly dont see this as a meta shift or anything, but all the terran players just starting to suck: mind, sea, last. edit: prediction 3:1 best over stork. No way. Stork is going to pull through! Commander fighting~~~! | ||
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