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Clan SK is proud to announce the launch of the SK Team League Season 1. This league is packed with Broodwars premier talent, and will showcase some of the best team match-ups. If you are interested in supporting this $500 prize pool please click here. We will be spotlighting the top 3 weekly match-ups with a two man casting team that will be held on our official Twitch channel: http://www.twitch.tv/clansk_tvPrize Pool $1500 1st- $1000 2nd- $350 3rd- $150 Please refer to our SKTL Discord for any league information. (Schedule, Team Rosters, Results, Rules)You will have all week to schedule your match-up with your opponent if you cannot meet the default time Sundays at 12pm est. Please work with team managers if they have players playing in seperate events like BWCL and Clash for Char, likely you have players playing in those events as well so lets work together and not abuse the 15 walk-over rule. It is very important that every team, and team captain/coach read the rules completely. There is an order to submitting replays and will answer most general questions. If you need any clarification or the help of a league admin please join our discord channel by clicking here and feel free to ask. If you notice you do not have a team captain please reach out to 619 or fire and designate one. Prize pool is gaurenteed $500, with $500 in coupons provided by Matcherino as well as the sale of 15 products on our Matcherino shop ($650) provided by E-Blue Gaming. 100% of the sale price goes towards the prize pool. Estimated total prize pool is $1500We are currently searching for staff members to help run our current projects, and for expansion ideas in the near future. If you feel like you would be a good fit, please contact me. SKTL Discord: Click Here!Clan Discord: Click Here!Website: http://www.clansk.comOfficial Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/clansk_tvOfficial Liquipedia Page: [url=http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SK_Team_League_Season_1[/url] If you are interested in supporting the prize pool for this event please click here! Sponsors/Partnerships:Matcherino - [url=http://www.matcherino.com]http://www.matcherino.com[/url] E-Blue Gaming - [url=https://shop.e-bluegaming.com/]https://shop.e-bluegaming.com/[/url] Dangerous to Play Alone - [url=https://discord.gg/Rw6QeUV]https://discord.gg/Rw6QeUV[/url] E-Sports Tickets - [url=http://www.esports-tickets.com]http://www.esports-tickets.com[/url] Contact: [SK]Fire Battle.net ID: FOr#11217 Discord: fire#6357 Email: skgamingleague@gmail.com Or just PM me here.
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Can we agree atleast to not allow koreans to play the ace match ?right now the system allows 1 player to play 1 1v1 1 2v2 and ace match,im not really ok with that either.
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I have recieved confirmation that racepicking will now be allowed. :D
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On October 31 2017 10:22 FyRe_DragOn wrote: I have recieved confirmation that racepicking will now be allowed. :D Flavor of the week rules.
Speaking of which, they aren't yet updated in the discord if that's true:
2) No race picking.
3) Once a line-up is submitted, they will be forced to play whatever specific race they chose, regardless of the opponents race. If your player is not confident in a mirror match, then strategy comes into play when submitting your line-up.
4) Random is not allowed.
Edit (wut?):
EywaSC - Today at 9:32 PM I'm curious to know what changes were brought in other than race picking I mean Lineups I guess I won't get the schedule tonight then? :smile: AeroSx17 - Today at 9:32 PM racepicking will NOT change until NEXT season IF majority of the teams feel the same way.
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I think hes saying racepicking will be allowed this season, and next season if people dont like it then it can be changed
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On October 31 2017 11:10 FyRe_DragOn wrote: I think hes saying racepicking will be allowed this season, and next season if people dont like it then it can be changed
Its not possible to have race picking in this format. Whatever race you submit in your lineup at the beginning of the week is the race you have to play that week. The format allows players to practice for their matchup during the week. For instance. If NAS leader wants to put dragon in as a Zerg on a protoss map and have him pay zerg that week that fine. But he cant be put in as a protoss then switch to zerg if he gets a pvp.
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On October 31 2017 14:00 [SK]sLiMpoweR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 11:10 FyRe_DragOn wrote: I think hes saying racepicking will be allowed this season, and next season if people dont like it then it can be changed Its not possible to have race picking in this format. Whatever race you submit in your lineup at the beginning of the week is the race you have to play that week. The format allows players to practice for their matchup during the week. For instance. If NAS leader wants to put dragon in as a Zerg on a protoss map and have him pay zerg that week that fine. But he cant be put in as a protoss then switch to zerg if he gets a pvp.
My race is ZvP PvZ PvT PvR, my opponents race is protoss. He will see this, realize he has a PvZ, and have a week to prepare just like everyone else. So yes, its definitely possible.
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Arcania has a really good argument for this, lets hope he comes here and drops us some knowledge.
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Why is everyone bickering over this? My goodness... just let people play the race, they have a week to prepare, who cares. If you're good, you'll win. If not, then you lose. Use your 1 week however you want. I see a lot of bickering; just let the man play his match up and call it a day...
Also, it's only low level players complaining about this. I don't see any good players caring about race picking or not. Just food for thought.
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Race pickers are an organizer's wet dream because they typically play matchups that lead to better viewership than mirrors. It helps a lot especially in small tournaments where you have limited games to pick from for casting.
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On November 01 2017 02:54 Eywa- wrote: Race pickers are an organizer's wet dream because they typically play matchups that lead to better viewership than mirrors. It helps a lot especially in small tournaments where you have limited games to pick from for casting. Agreed! I haven't seen one good player or a veteran of the game complaining about race picking. Not a single one...
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Honestly, the racepicking rule is pressing, but another rule that I think deserves attention is the mandatory 3 players must show up to a clan war. This is a problem because players can double as 1v1 and 2v2, thus you could theoretically lose a CW if you're up 3-0 because the 4th set could turn out to be a walk over. If that 4th set is a walk over, you would automatically lose despite the final score being 3-1.
What does this mean for league play? Walk Overs are ultra valuable, and I know that as a team manager I will probably be taking W.O the second that it is available (speaking of which, I don't even remember reading what the walk over rules are... And I can't check the rules because I've been put on timeout from the discord chat which is the sole source of information.
EywaSC - Today at 5:08 PM Okay, but let's say I win 3-1, 2 players showed up and they played the 2v2, 1 set W.O What would happen? AeroSx17 - Today at 5:08 PM you will learn, and VERY fast, i dont play bullshit, the league is being ran for a certain way, and the easiest way. if you dont like it, thats tough. then you lose the CW, all members need to be present.
I've never seen the result of a clan war reversed due to 1 walk over set is all I'm saying, but with the current rules, it's entirely possible.
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I now clearly remember why I don't play in leagues and tournaments. They are usually ran by assholes with biased views and stupid rules. Not to mention the endless waiting that's usually on the weekend. Good luck with the tour!
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Anyway, I thankfully got banned from SKTL due to not respecting the authority of the host. I didn't want to participate from the start, that was clear from my demeanor.
In the spirit of competition, my message to all of the other clan leaders is this: If you play in this event, you will lose. SK holds all the cards and they have a rule that says 1 player can win a CW via 1v1, 2v2 and ace. That's 3 matches in a best of 5 where Koreans are allowed to play... Is the money that enticing that you would go through a whole season of the frustration, dealing with the lack of clear rules for a chance to win 2nd place?
The competitive aspect is gone, and if you allow this to take place then it will only continue to take place. Even if it's reduced to max 2 plays per week you can lose your best player to a Korean just by luck of the draw... And you need to win every non Korean matchup.
I'm not saying kill the clan league, just together all of the clans should demand a ruleset that is fair for everyone and that encourages competition.
The only reason I'm posting this as that I know I'm not the only one who feels this way, and something had to be said.
ReD is looking for fair CWs anytime, we can also do $$ CWs with non Koreans if any teams are up for putting in equal sums.
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I agree that having koreans, especially when combined with 1player able to play 3sets, is unfair to the majority of the teams playing in this. Ive talked to Aeros and he agreed that the 1player playing 3sets rule is not good. However then he also said he didnt want to change it, so I dont know what to expect at the moment. He did change the rule about racepicking, which I am happy about, that was the biggest concern to me.
I am still not happy about playing with these other 2 conditions, and I expect most other teams arent either. Hopefully at least the 1player 3sets rule is changed. As soon as koreans were allowed, I no longer expected to realistically have a chance at winning the league, so at this point im just playing for 2nd place which is pretty lame. Im playing knowing that the league is unfair, but there arent any better options for teamleagues at the moment.
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I'm not happy about the Koreans being allowed after there was a poll which resulted in people not wanting korean participation, but I also see the side of SK wanting to allow their player to join their own team league. If this were my league and I had a Korean I would want them to join in, one of my players and good friends is Korean and while Im glad he can play, Scan is at a very high level, its almost an auto-win for him unless you bring a top caliber Korean to match him. Also while I get along with Aeros I feel he had it out for Eywa from the start, sorry Aeros just calling how I saw it I still like you <3 Hopefully things settle down and everyone can play happily. The idea of SK Team League is great, but perhaps it needs to go back to the drawing board, some rules strike me as odd.
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Just FYI, the host, anderson barrett, has a bad reputation for not delivery what he promises. aka the prize money, you will most likely never get if you won.
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On November 03 2017 10:29 YPang wrote: Just FYI, the host, anderson barrett, has a bad reputation for not delivery what he promises. aka the prize money, you will most likely never get if you won.
care to elaborate?
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