While that thread is really damning of Aeros / Smi.Athene, SK has been running tourneys for a good while now, and I haven't heard anyone complain about not getting their money. Additionally I have been told that Anderson Barrett has been removed from the team and from any organizing position. I understand that people are apprehensive when stuff like this comes to light but the friday+saturday tourneys have been going on for a couple months now, certainly someone would have complained if money wasn't being paid out as planned.

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

November 03 2017 03:13 GMT

#24

Hmm, what's the word? Irony? ;d
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Tbh, there was something off about this guy from the beginning, a man who wants to do something for the community... Yet he admitted (given, in private chat) that he was entirely disconnected from Starcraft and didn't have the passion for it. I'm surprised at what came out though, mostly because there's not much money to do away with ;d.

I think that the tour is going to be better for it, AeroSx17 had a terrible attitude and I really think the new SK admin is a good guy. Best of luck to all teams

Jealous

10295 Posts

November 03 2017 03:14 GMT

#25

On November 03 2017 12:13 Eywa- wrote:
Hmm, what's the word? Irony? ;d
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LMFAO

MCGANGBANG THO

ninazerg

United States7291 Posts

November 03 2017 03:57 GMT

#26

"You work at McDonald's, live with mother, in basement, etc"

Weak stuff.

619

United States87 Posts

November 03 2017 04:27 GMT

#27

On behalf of the Clan SK I would like to make a few things clear about the current situation, and also promise our commitment to improve each and every day. I was completely unaware of AeroS or Anderson Barnetts affiliation with the community in the past, but I am very thankful for the people who brought this to our attention so quickly.Thankfully Andersons tenure with SK was only 4 days. This is not the kind of environment we are trying to cultivate in the community and we want to make sure that our reputation isn't damaged based on this persons past. We have never had issues with payments in the past. Partnered with our weekly sponsor and my own personal money we have had 35 successful tournaments without 1 failed payment or mixup. We would like to continue to hold ourselves to a high standard and create excellent content for the Broodwar community. I would hope that everyone can come together as we look forward to a very bright future. I really am excited about the things that are happening behind the scenes here at SK and I think they will definitely benefit the community. SKTL will be run by the SK Operations Manager [SK]fire for the time being until we find the right person to take over. Fires contact info is listed below. I apologize for any negativity this has caused.

fire#6357

Daniel Duryea
[SK]619

FyRe_DragOn

Canada2056 Posts

November 03 2017 04:30 GMT

#28

On November 03 2017 12:12 Liquid`Drone wrote:
While that thread is really damning of Aeros / Smi.Athene, SK has been running tourneys for a good while now, and I haven't heard anyone complain about not getting their money. Additionally I have been told that Anderson Barrett has been removed from the team and from any organizing position. I understand that people are apprehensive when stuff like this comes to light but the friday+saturday tourneys have been going on for a couple months now, certainly someone would have complained if money wasn't being paid out as planned.

that is a good point, SK have been legit with their other tours. Perhaps I wont withdraw, but I want to talk to this new guy first

SCC-Faust

United States3736 Posts

November 03 2017 07:09 GMT

#29

If you feel like you would be a good fit, please contact me

...
Contact: Anderson Barrett
Battle.net ID: aéros#1708
Discord: AeroS#0810
Email: skgamingleague@gmail.com

On November 03 2017 13:27 619 wrote:
I was completely unaware of AeroS or Anderson Barnetts affiliation with the community in the past, but I am very thankful for the people who brought this to our attention so quickly.Thankfully Andersons tenure with SK was only 4 days.

1. Why was he saying he was running the league in the SKTL discord way before you say he joined SK.
2. Who is supplying the money? Who is sponsoring it?
3. Why would you let this guy have access to the SK Teamliquid account and e-mail address on his supposed first day of being with SK?

619

United States87 Posts

November 03 2017 11:48 GMT

#30

On November 03 2017 16:09 SCC-Faust wrote:

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I’ve actually seen the guy mention that everything was dumped on him overnight essentially and that he was re-working the rules etc. I’m not sure why you would have ever thought he was taking care of this before we switched organizers. It was very clear I was the organizer of the tournaments and league and there was talk about weather I should be in charge of the league and the leader of Clan SK so again to do what the community requested we threw in what we thought would have been a good candidate. Honestly the guys “fake” resume was impressive. I didn’t really think twice about it. Currently we have a $100 donation, and i will be responsible for the remaining $400. Again payments have never been an issue after 35 tournaments, i don’t believe it’s even fair to question us when it comes to money.

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

November 03 2017 12:07 GMT

#31

On November 03 2017 16:09 SCC-Faust wrote:

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To be entirely fair, this move was a forced move by the community as well, there wasn't much time for this to get on track and they needed to bring someone in on short notice. Now, you can argue that it was an organizational mistake to not foresee this, but on the grand scale of organizational mistakes, I don't think it's a very significant one (and most of the time it won't come back to bite you).

As for the general rule with sponsorship, if you don't see a sponsor listed, you should probably assume that the organizer is putting up the money. Given that the prize pool isn't so significant, I don't see much reason to question whether or not it'll be paid out in the absence of a sponsor. (Also, from what I hear SK has reliably paid out over the past months)

KenZy

France93 Posts

November 03 2017 12:22 GMT

#32

So are you gonna change some rules ? Like race picking or allowing koreans ?

I don't event want to play in this league atm, and i hope eywa, dragon and eon will agree not to play in this if you don't change some rules.

Twinkle Toes

United States3605 Posts

November 03 2017 12:35 GMT

#33

Is this gonna be like proleague?

ClanSK

71 Posts

November 03 2017 12:55 GMT

#34

Theres conversation of changing the rule regarding the ace match (Koreans not being allowed for the ace match), however we are not open to the idea about completely region locking this event. Come Season 2 I think there could be enough interest to host two leagues (foreign/global or open/invite). We are committed to providing the community with as much content as we can so as we experiment with ideas please be patient with us.

Bonyth

Poland595 Posts

November 03 2017 13:19 GMT

#35

On November 03 2017 21:22 KenZy wrote:
So are you gonna change some rules ? Like race picking or allowing koreans ?

I don't event want to play in this league atm, and i hope eywa, dragon and eon will agree not to play in this if you don't change some rules.

I've read somewhere that racepicking is going to be allowed (please correct me if I'm wrong).
In the post above you can also see that Koreans might not be allowed win clan wars alone. It's a step forward, some compromise.

619

United States87 Posts

November 03 2017 13:43 GMT

#36

We have not discussed the idea of race picking allowed. We liked the set-up of the Pan American Team League and honestly adopted a lot of their rules. That league will no longer be happening next season and I spoke with Psyonic Reaver about basically passing of the torch. Because Clan SK has a desire to host events ourselves we decided not to keep the PATL name and change it to SKTL and open region locks.

619

United States87 Posts

November 03 2017 14:50 GMT

#37

Ok there is going to be some rule changes and I will briefly go over them here but the details will be updated in the rules later today.

Race picking will be allowed. (Read rules for specifics)
Koreans will not be able to play the ace match.

I would like to make it clear that while the min participants for the CW is three, you can win with two people if you 3-0 and do not allow for a game 4. If the matchup goes to game 4 you would be required to play your third player because a player can only play in one 1v1, one 2v2, and the ace as long as they aren’t korean. One player cannot play in two 1v1, and the 2v2.

ClanSK

71 Posts

November 03 2017 20:20 GMT

#38

Another rule change, please note:

A player can only play a maximum of 2 times per team per week.. Previously it was 3 times per team per week.

Race picking will be allowed.
Koreans will not be able to play the ace match.

SCC-Faust

United States3736 Posts

November 03 2017 21:46 GMT

#39

Fair enough, and respectable responses. *puts on monocle and top hat and skiddles out of thread with a candy cane shoved up his ass*