EPTOn November 27 2017 12:34 sicklucker wrote:
psyonic reaver tried his best but he failed and lost interest really fast, he also tried to do to much I knew that leauge was falling from day 1 sktl is doing the same thing but there alot more motivated and can learn from the formers mistakes like a sorter season since you know half the teams are going to disband anyway.
psyonic reaver tried his best but he failed and lost interest really fast, he also tried to do to much I knew that leauge was falling from day 1 sktl is doing the same thing but there alot more motivated and can learn from the formers mistakes like a sorter season since you know half the teams are going to disband anyway.
I didn't lose interest although I can see from a point of view why it would appear that way.
It was disheartening to see so many teams and players simply give up after the first few weeks because of losing/ego issues. It was not unexpected, I just did not think it would be so excessive.
I don't think PATL was a failure. It had it's rough spots and was definitely a learning experience. I have notes for PATL 2, which will happen in 2018 but not as soon as I hoped. Halfway through PATL 1 there were some family things coming up that I decided took precedent over the League, sadly I did not have the foresight to heavily involve another admin. I cut back on things I was pushing as mandatory and tried to leave it more up to the casters/players to work out themselves. Most of the time it went smoothly and for the few times it did not, I stepped in. I would say the team captains and the players did more self moderation and running of the League than I ever did directly. PATL ran itself. There were clear cut rules, timelines and expectations. Things got a little heated now and then but nothing outrageous I feel.
I see that this league is suffering from many of the same problems as PATL. First and foremost I tried my best to remain neutral in PATL. That is why I did not play in PATL although I really wanted to initially. Not everyone may see it that way and I can understand and accept that.
I've seen my name mentioned here and in other places about stepping in for whatever reason to help. That's the only reason I'm here responding but I felt I had reach back out to sicklurker. Sorry for the bloated opening.
To the point.
This is not my league and 619 has a right to run it as he sees fit, so either buck up and play or don't. Sometimes leagues are AND will be unfair, even blatantly WTF unfair. All Gaming tournaments, especially SC1/SC2, all have those moments. I saw it many times as a caster in my heyday.
The only advice I can offer is let it go in the moment and play on. Document what occurs and voice concern as needed but name calling and acting childish never solves anything. Let me be clear I am not pointing fingers at anyone and the best we can do for this game is treat it with respect and those that still play it with respect. If this game is to survive past when all of us die, it must be respected as the masterpiece it is such as the likes of chess or Go.
Now there will always be individuals that may lose respect but let that be based upon a multitude of actions, not singular one offs. Running AND playing in a league is hard. Admins having to balance an issue between two clans. Clan leaders trying to keep their players Interested... Every aspect is difficult and the best we can do is always try to keep a calm head.
Good luck to all in SKTL.
