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JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
February 14 2017 16:36 GMT
#61
On February 09 2017 10:09 BisuDagger wrote:
I just got a call that one of my lifelong best friends passed away. His funeral is next Tuesday in another city. I will be postponing this cast by one day.


Sorry to hear that mate
www.broodwarmaps.net
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-14 20:57:28
February 14 2017 18:07 GMT
#62
Spoiler round 1 and 2
+ Show Spoiler +
A couple of people saying zergs played badly but you have it wrong. First of all, Koget is really good. Secondly, it was a floated factory into the main on Benzene; vults in your main can also hit your nat min line from the cliff, and the mains are huge. I can understand the gg, when you are skirting the edges of safety as you do, its a build that has beaten the best zergs out there.
And like I said, Koget played some great starcraft overall. Also just manner up lol.


And commenters please can you use spoiler tags as the vods are posted in the comments.

@eonzerg (I replied in more detail in the maps own thread):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/516840-map-4crown-and-sceptre-1v1?page=2#21

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Thoughts are with you BisuDagger.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
February 15 2017 14:28 GMT
#63
freakling, please remove the "closed hatchets" in (3)Reap the Storm at the low ground expos. they are above creep and mess with the selection of the building, thx
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
February 15 2017 22:40 GMT
#64
O_o Another player who drag-selects buildings; why do you even do that?
You are actually the second one clomplaining about it, so I will change it soon(ish) when I have the time. Should not be much trouble to remove them and find some terrain texture to replace them.
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
February 16 2017 03:06 GMT
#65
Great casting BisuDagger! Thanks for doing this =)
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
February 16 2017 04:15 GMT
#66
Congrats to the victor! Week 4's matchup + Show Spoiler +
Koget vs Julia
.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
February 16 2017 05:03 GMT
#67
On February 16 2017 07:40 Freakling wrote:
O_o Another player who drag-selects buildings; why do you even do that?
You are actually the second one clomplaining about it, so I will change it soon(ish) when I have the time. Should not be much trouble to remove them and find some terrain texture to replace them.


i guess i have to thank JungleTerrain for complaining too then.
your reaction makes me wonder if you even play the game at all.
i use 5-0 for my first 6 bases, but there are a fuckton of players who hotkey differently or use f keys.
if you manage to move your mouse half a hex while the mouse is pressed in the big 4x3 hex that is your building, because you know, people play with 200+ apm, you select that thingy and have to select again.
what does this thing even do good?.....

why are so few people complaining? because they dont care about random foreign maps.
why did i complain and want it changed? because this map actually doesnt look like FS clone number 473, because it does not have a 5 turret base and easy 3rd layout. So you actually cannot use all your FS-builds 95% of the time while ignoring remaining map feature like in all FS clones.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
February 16 2017 12:02 GMT
#68
On February 16 2017 14:03 Bakuryu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2017 07:40 Freakling wrote:
O_o Another player who drag-selects buildings; why do you even do that?
You are actually the second one clomplaining about it, so I will change it soon(ish) when I have the time. Should not be much trouble to remove them and find some terrain texture to replace them.


i guess i have to thank JungleTerrain for complaining too then.
your reaction makes me wonder if you even play the game at all.

@_@ Why is every one so touchy at the moment??!?! O_o ;..(
:| Do I need to use more :D emoticons? ;P
Seriously, the first paragraph wasn't meant as a serious comment.

i use 5-0 for my first 6 bases, but there are a fuckton of players who hotkey differently or use f keys.
if you manage to move your mouse half a hex while the mouse is pressed in the big 4x3 hex that is your building, because you know, people play with 200+ apm, you select that thingy and have to select again.

It's just that it never came up for me as a practical problem during my testing of the map. I guess it is because of all the reasons you already listed:
  • I primarily play Zerg and hotkey my hatches (5...0, just like you), so I actually rarely mouse-select that hatch.
  • Again, when playing Zerg, it does not interfere with directly drag-selecting the larvae
  • I do click-select buildings (and I guess my APM hardly ever reaches 200 either...)


what does this thing even do good?.....

This should be obvious:
I opted for giving players clear indicators as to where to put down their town halls for all expansions on this map to make it more accessible for first-time players and help all you 200+ apm fraction-of-a-second-click players getting easy judgement for building placement. All you need to do is to place your town hall right in the middle of it.
Unfortunately there is not much one can do in terms of terrain for low platform, there is just that one terrain type and some doodads/pseudo doodads one can use. So I opted for this instead.
I now changed it to something I came up with using those doodad tecxtures; does not look nearly as good, though.

why are so few people complaining? because they dont care about random foreign maps.

1. I don't actually care all that much if other people care.
2. Having this kind of real-time map support should qualify as a pretty huge advantage over the "what you got is what you are stuck with" principle that applies to all the old Kespa maps (and the usually very badly made and untested post-Kespa era Korean league maps).

why did i complain and want it changed? because this map actually doesnt look like FS clone number 473, because it does not have a 5 turret base and easy 3rd layout. So you actually cannot use all your FS-builds 95% of the time while ignoring remaining map feature like in all FS clones.

Just to make this clear again: I am not even complaining about your complaining. Quite to the contrary, this is exactly the kind of feedback I am looking for. A purely aesthetic element causes some real issues for players in-game – it gets removed, simple as that, no further discussion to even be had.

So here's the update (I hope the link works, as my drop box seems not to load correctly in the browser at the moment, for some reason...):

Reap the Storm v1.04 Update
InDi
Profile Joined April 2010
Spain90 Posts
February 16 2017 13:00 GMT
#69
Can we have a protoss player for a change? I watched the first week then I just quickly checked the games and went ahead for spoiler results in the rest...

+ Show Spoiler +
Every week the same games (4 weeks, 4 TvZs) is getting kinda boring
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
February 16 2017 13:06 GMT
#70
On February 16 2017 22:00 InDi wrote:
Can we have a protoss player for a change? I watched the first week then I just quickly checked the games and went ahead for spoiler results in the rest...

+ Show Spoiler +
Every week the same games (4 weeks, 4 TvZs) is getting kinda boring

+ Show Spoiler +
I can't rig the system and at least with the way Koget is playing, we are avoiding ZvZs. Plus there will be massive hype down the line knowing eonzerg, dewalt, and co. are remaining. The highest ranked players still await their chance to play in the arena.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
February 16 2017 13:06 GMT
#71
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-16 13:15:25
February 16 2017 13:12 GMT
#72
im sry, its just that for the last 2 years, everytime i try to give advice, people do 1 of the following:
1. troll me
2. question my sanity
3. asking "why?" questions until i write a 2 page assey or ignore them, because they are trolling and want to waste my time
4. ignore me
5. a 3rd person tells me to stfu because i suck at life, while the person i gave the advice is defending the 3rd person
6. troll me harder
7. just straight up throw every possible insult at me


Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
February 16 2017 20:03 GMT
#73
Welcome to the interwebs...
Thinking about it, welcome to planet Earth, where all the alleged humans dwell.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 16 2017 22:35 GMT
#74
I hate the interwebs for what they have done to Bakuryu.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6761 Posts
February 17 2017 01:02 GMT
#75
On February 16 2017 07:40 Freakling wrote:
O_o Another player who drag-selects buildings; why do you even do that?
You are actually the second one clomplaining about it, so I will change it soon(ish) when I have the time. Should not be much trouble to remove them and find some terrain texture to replace them.

i was so angry today everytime i tried to make probes i select that thing,i think the only reason no one complained is cuz they didnt play it or didnt take this expansion.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
February 17 2017 02:46 GMT
#76
On February 17 2017 10:02 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2017 07:40 Freakling wrote:
O_o Another player who drag-selects buildings; why do you even do that?
You are actually the second one clomplaining about it, so I will change it soon(ish) when I have the time. Should not be much trouble to remove them and find some terrain texture to replace them.

i was so angry today everytime i tried to make probes i select that thing,i think the only reason no one complained is cuz they didnt play it or didnt take this expansion.

Also I don't know what this is about with the center CC/Nexus/Hatchery that belongs to an obs, but if you desperately want to keep it, at least make it so that the players are allied to that obs player at the start.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
February 17 2017 08:33 GMT
#77
On February 16 2017 22:12 Bakuryu wrote:
im sry, its just that for the last 2 years, everytime i try to give advice, people do 1 of the following:
1. troll me
2. question my sanity
3. asking "why?" questions until i write a 2 page assey or ignore them, because they are trolling and want to waste my time
4. ignore me
5. a 3rd person tells me to stfu because i suck at life, while the person i gave the advice is defending the 3rd person
6. troll me harder
7. just straight up throw every possible insult at me




Lol sorry to hear that... maybe you are giving the right advice to the wrong people. And you mean advice to mapmakers or just people in teamliquid posts in general? I feel like any player experience is valuable, there is always a hidden, sometimes small, truth underneath what someone is saying.
www.broodwarmaps.net
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-17 10:33:06
February 17 2017 09:28 GMT
#78
On February 17 2017 11:46 Cryoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 10:02 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On February 16 2017 07:40 Freakling wrote:
O_o Another player who drag-selects buildings; why do you even do that?
You are actually the second one clomplaining about it, so I will change it soon(ish) when I have the time. Should not be much trouble to remove them and find some terrain texture to replace them.

i was so angry today everytime i tried to make probes i select that thing,i think the only reason no one complained is cuz they didnt play it or didnt take this expansion.

Also I don't know what this is about with the center CC/Nexus/Hatchery that belongs to an obs, but if you desperately want to keep it, at least make it so that the players are allied to that obs player at the start.

The Floor Hatches were removed yesterday. Just look some posts up for the download link for the new version.
I also fixed the observer town hall spawn issue – 'twas just a matter of obs player 8 being set to user selectable instead of Protoss by accident.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
February 21 2017 18:55 GMT
#79
Tonight Elegant joins the casting crew!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1598 Posts
February 21 2017 19:12 GMT
#80
Woot woot! I hope Julia can cheese his way to victory tonight.
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